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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 16:47 [#00859152]
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i picked up the new silver mt. zion memorial orchestra and tra-la-la band with choir today, already listened to it twice (the first three tracks the first time, the whole thing the second).
all i can say is wow. wow wow wow. by far, to me, the best and most moving material the godspeed collective has put out to date. although i think a great many will be turned off by most of the vocals. i myself find it to be highly affecting, and greatly adds to what is certainly an instant classic. i can't praise this enough.
my favourites so far are track 1, sow some lonesome corner so many flowers bloom, and 2, babylon was built on fire/stars no stars.
highly recommended to anyone even remotely interested in post-rock. this has just taken the genre to a whole new level.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-11 16:51 [#00859154]
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soooo...what is the band, what is the title...some confusion there
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mr wiqwar
from Naarch (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-11 16:51 [#00859155]
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thanks for this review, i was almost not gonna bother with it, now i'll definitely give it a listen, good to hear someone so genuinely and unashamedly passionate about something....... new 'do make say think' album soon too, which i'll definitely bother with.....
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 16:54 [#00859156]
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the band is the silver mt. zion memorial orchestra and tra-la-la band with choir (or just silver mt. zion for short).
the album is "this is our punk-rock," thee rusted satellites gather+sing.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 16:56 [#00859158]
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i saw do make say think in june, and they blew the roof off the place. definately not a show i'll soon forget.
killed my ears though.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-09-11 16:56 [#00859159]
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Yeah, I just got it too. And I love it.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 16:57 [#00859160]
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have a fav track yet?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-09-11 17:06 [#00859164]
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I think it's a tie between the second and third.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 17:09 [#00859166]
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nice nice.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-11 17:15 [#00859170]
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i plan on checking that out immediately, i completely forgot they had a new album.
the big question is can anything REALLY top "13 angels..."?
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-09-11 17:18 [#00859173]
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to be honest i didnt like this album as much as the last silver mt. zion release.
it's good tuff, no doubt, but the only track that really stood out for me was the last one.. that one's DAMN good
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-09-11 17:21 [#00859178]
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my favourite godspeed CD is the one with the ducks on the front qwakin each other
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-09-11 17:23 [#00859182]
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No, in my opinion, they can't do better than the first album (which is my favourite album ever, by the way). Their style is quite different now, anyway.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-09-11 17:56 [#00859225]
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yes i got it the day it came out, but have only had a chance to listen to it once.
quite fantastic, i must say. i like the package too.
though, yes, i must say efrim's vocal style is kinda irritating. i suppose ill get used to it, and it doesnt detract from the music too much.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-11 17:57 [#00859226]
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as long as he don't start singin' in godspeed we're straight
i was just frontin
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-11 18:04 [#00859234]
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oh man. i downloaded it and it was totally awesome until efrim started his proverbial nails-on-the-chalkboard voice. then i quickly turned it off. he needs to never sing again.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 18:10 [#00859237]
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yes, he sounds like either a pussyfied jeff mangum or neil young punched in the balls. oof!
i'm probably the only person into the singing on this board, as i'm also into some folk music (ie the indy scene's interpretation of folk music). well, i'm sure at least one other person will secretly be into it, while posting topics about how dope venetian snares is (kill a child today!).
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 18:13 [#00859241]
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i had a twenty minute arguement on whether that was a picture of a dog or a pig on the cover of the booklet, while eating falafels with a friend at my local falafel bar. actually they were shawarmas, or something like that, and i still don't know the nationality of the food. any help?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-09-11 18:14 [#00859242]
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I like the singing... I must be mad.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 18:15 [#00859243]
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hey tits, rap is faded, go back to the 80s.
p.s. you're not black.
jokes
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 18:15 [#00859244]
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dude..
*high five*
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-11 18:21 [#00859247]
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i loved the first disc, and the singing on the second complemented the music nicely, but this is just an overdose. he drowned track 2 in a voice that sounds like it smokes 4 packs a day.
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-09-11 18:25 [#00859252]
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i like the singing
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 18:29 [#00859258]
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i think yanqui could have used it, as i'm in the camp that points to it and calls it 'more maturely composed, sure, but that doesn't make it any less boring'.
*slaps steve albini*
it's his fault and everyone knows it.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-11 18:55 [#00859288]
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damn dude that was teh cruelest, besides that's not even a rap song. how can you disrespect a godspeed fan like that?!
yanqui did not need any singing.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 18:59 [#00859292]
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well i'm sure you were thinking of a rap song when you posted that.
and yes it did! as nasally as possible!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-11 19:01 [#00859294]
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pharrell "frontin'" = r&b
and, NO! godspeed is perfect w/o the singing, especially efrim's singing. it's for indie extremists only. maybe will oldham could sing on a godspeed song or something!?
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 19:08 [#00859302]
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fuck will oldham, it's all about jeff mangum.
hell, even alison shaw would have fit. but that might piss people off even more than efrim.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-11 19:14 [#00859305]
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who are jeff mangum and alison shaw? are they in bands? what's their vocal style?
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 19:19 [#00859310]
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jeff mangum basically = neutral milk hotel. if you don't know nmh then.. damn.
alison shaw = cranes. your nonsensical little girl voice. i recommend the song 'beautiful friend' off 'loved'.
if you know my bloody valentine, then you should know cranes.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-11 19:21 [#00859312]
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i heard a couple NMH songs 2 years ago and didn't like them but i figured they're just not the best songs
cranes.. i'll check them out
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 19:25 [#00859315]
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for nmh, you have to listen to the entire album 'in the aeroplane over the sea' at least four times. and then you'll understand.
no slick production, just brilliant lyrics and songwriting.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 19:26 [#00859317]
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'aeroplane' is one of the few albums that really needs to be listened to in its entirety.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-09-11 20:22 [#00859368]
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i got this yesterday, fantastic release, track 1 is pure greatness. I dont really know how to compare it to the others, its really different. new do make say think and polmo polpo coming in october; should be very good month.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-11 20:29 [#00859373]
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wasn't the new do make say think recorded in a church?
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-11 21:18 [#00859409]
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This topic was designed for me! 1) I love the new TSMZMO&TLLB(WC). I don't have the proper album yet, but I dl'ed it from slsk about a month and a half ago. I hugely love it. My fav track was 2, especially the "brightest light I ever saw..." part, but has shifted to track 3. Simply stunning.
2) His voice is a double edged sword for sure. While it is quite without talent, it's excused because it sounds so heart-felt. By the way, perfect description of Efrim's voice on this album = Neil Youg crossed with Sarah McLaughlin.
3) The new Do Make Say Think will be absolutely amazing, for sure. It's entitled "Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret Hymn." I've heard 4 of the 9 tracks live, in fact I taped the show and have heard them several times and simply love them all! This album was recorded in a couple of different rural (= barns) locations, like Goodbye Enemy Airship was. I don't know which album was recorded in a church, but it sounds familiar.
4) all who like Silver Mt. Zion will love Esmerine. It's on Resonant records, and features Bruce from GY!BE and Beckie from ASMZ as its core, with guests such as Efrim and Thierry from GY!BE. Check it out, it's beautiful.
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-11 21:19 [#00859411]
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Oh yeah, and I'm totally buying This is Our Punk rock on vinyl. Tomorrow. Right before I see Mogwai.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-09-11 22:30 [#00859450]
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i love all three albums, this one the most.
they are SO good.
better than godspeed, imo.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-09-11 23:15 [#00859467]
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no, i like singing a lot...just not efrim's.
and i'm pretty sure the picture is of a dog. most likely wanda, efrim's dog who died of cancer a few years ago, to which 'he has left us alone but...' was dedicated to.
when exactly is the new do make say think album coming out anyways?
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-12 05:45 [#00859660]
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October 6th for the new Do Make Say Think. Here's the write up from the website, to get you excited.
Do Make Say Think have fashioned a fourth full-length album of tremendous beauty & depth, more loosely woven than previous records & played with a dark, wistful restraint throughout. The songs on Winter Hymn... are eerie & iridescent, composed & captured with mesmerising attention to detail, guided by the band's most intricate & intimate guitar passages to date. Many of the songs feature a newfound non-linearity in compositional structure that once again raises the DMST bar for imbuing instrumental rock with heartrending - yes, even hymnal - narrative ideas. More than any previous effort by the band, this is an album that yearns to be listened to as a whole, or at least in the triptychs defined by the 3-sided vinyl edition.
SIDE A is driven by introspective guitar work, full of delicate transitions & devastatingly soulful punctuations. These first three tracks rank among the finest & most finessed music the band has yet set to tape - impressionistic & fragmented, while remaining coherent & perfectly controlled. SIDE B relies more heavily on horns & a recurring jazz groove in the rhythm section, while SIDE C brings on the rock & pop denouement, beginning with an explosive track that devolves into cut-up & eventually gives way to the celebratory album closer (complete with submerged chorale).
Recorded in three sessions over the winter & spring of 2003, most of the tracks went to tape at two rural locations. The resulting campfire vibe on much of this material is reminiscent of the band's second record, Goodbye Enemy Airship..., but with more complexity throughout. Mixed by the group at th'Schvitz, their Toronto home studio, the album continues to highlight DMST's inventive production touches, always at the service of the musical ideas.
Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret Hymn is available on compact disc & three sides of vinyl. Both formats are chipboard gatefold jackets with lovely original art
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-12 05:48 [#00859665]
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Better than Godspeed? I think maybe almost as good, but not better. To each his own though.
It's cool that a lot of people on this list listen to this kind of music!
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ymenard
on 2003-09-13 01:45 [#00860765]
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Efrim sounds like the Labradford guys singing on their first and second album. The same, same, exact voice :) :(
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rez
from here on 2003-09-14 05:18 [#00861836]
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i am listening to a silver mt zion for the first time and ... WOW !!! They are soooo good. This is some of the best music i've ever heard!!!
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-14 09:46 [#00862061]
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It has some of the most beautiful orchestration ASMZ have done, and the packaging is so well done, it demands purchase on vinyl (even if you don't have a record player)
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-09-14 10:51 [#00862187]
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esmerine is great too, i actually got that the same day i got smz. i also gor a current 93 release and animal collective...all top notch too.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-09-14 13:06 [#00862384]
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martin: by better i mean i preffer to listen to it more often. not necessarily technically better or better executed necessarily. just to me, material i would rather listen to. if that makes sense.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-14 14:44 [#00862471]
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it does, and i agree. (even though i'm not martin)
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-14 14:57 [#00862487]
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this album's growing on me the more i listen to it actually.
i still wish he didn't sing though.
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optimus prime
on 2003-09-14 18:39 [#00862843]
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your avatar rocks.
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-14 20:06 [#00862938]
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Yeah, I was just joking. Good music is good music, yeah?
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