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What release do you like better, the Aphex Twin style, releasing in quite long intervals but yielding IMO music that lasts longer, or a frequent release style such as Autechre or Venetian Snares where, pardon my tastes, sometimes the songs can get old fast. Autechre with Confield and Draft 7.30 have been right on in my books, but there is still no longer lingering album than DrukQs. It's almost like Richard spends more time on making music that will last longer before becoming obtuse and bland. Just my opinion of course. Boards of Canada could also be relating in terms with Richard's work. While this is no means a direct compairson of the long term quality of AE's or Aphex's work (as we all know that that wouldn't hold a snowballs chance in hell of debate survival here, I would just like to know which method you guys prefer. Do you like being greedy and wanting as much Autechre as possible? Or do you like to wait longer for releases, so you can savor the flavor? |
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i find it much more pleasurable waiting between 3-4 years for quality material, because albums like drukqs...ect last forever |
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I prefer a waiting a bit longer for an amazing album. Its like you almost earned it when you wait for long enough. |
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it not quantity that counts its the quality......and waiting 3-4 years makes it much more of a big event.....much like the olympics or soccer world cup :) |
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I think AEs music hangs together more as a continous project; there's a sense of progress & exploration... Whereas, AFX is kinda all over the place...more punky; less clinicaL... (I love em both, of course...)... |
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Nice imput; agreed. |
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soo ture jand |
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i'm fine with either :) but seriously, it always depends on my current preferences. both styles (as you call it) have their beautiful moments and weak points... i don't consider everything that Rich releases to be excellent work, and i find some of his stuff pretty much dated (the same applies to some of Ae stuff as well, you understand :) at the moment i think Aphex is more accessible and digestive for me... that's why my current choice is Autechre, 'cause actually it takes three times as long to digest that stuff ... i'm learning patience with their music :) |
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I can understand your take. In my opinion, I find it much more pleasing to have an album like DrukQs that has lasted me years now, to an album like Draft 7.30. Now keep in mind it took me about 3-4 weeks just to digest that album, but in the long haul I'm still listening to DrukQs as if it came out last week. I guess you could consider Autechre boring at times, because they stick to one style. Personally now that I think about it I love how they stick to one style. I don't want to see a group like AE start doing pure ambient, or pure hardcore mental nonsense. I like the way they are now, and how they put out music. To me though, the overall pleasing and feel of an album from Richard, lasts longer and maintains a more "time-nudged" logic memory in my brain. Again, I apologize for compairing the 2 different apples-to-oranges styles, but it was the only contrast I could think of. |
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and no, I didn't just call Autechre "boring at times." :p |
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I only really buy CD's that are gonna have that lasting/long-term thing going on... I get bored of things about 3x quicker than most ppl I recon - Very short attention span. |
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"the overall pleasing and feel of an album from Richard lasts longer..." i couldn't have said it better, really :) |
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I definitely like the longer wait between albums. Quality should always be considered more important than quantity. |
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i prefer vinyl |
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Aphex Twin: i never know what to expect from him...! i don't know, he could pull anything (or nothing) out of this hat, can be mediocre or awesome, can be any style of electronica.... so i do not expect anything from him, but when he releases something of course i will get interested in it (not necessarily buy nor download it though) Autechre: i think i have enough of them, i like them pretty much but i only listen to Ae very rarely so..... *shrugs* Squarepusher: he is the idm artist i look the most forward to a new release from him (hell, how am i writing?!!?!)... he's been reinventing himself with masterpieces twice, for Music Is Rotten One Note and Go Plastic, his previous work was very pleasant too (especially Hard Normal Daddy)... on the other hand, Do You Know Squarepusher was deceiving, and another Big Loada wouldn't catch my attention that much either... Boards Of Canada: =P Venetian Snares: *shrugs* i heard Winter In The Belly Of A Snake was very good... Higgins Ultra Low x#- #* @ -/* etc. disappointed me... someone said there was like 2 excellent tracks in his albums and i can well believe him, in Higgins Ultra Low Track Glue Funk Hits 1972-2006 there was Banana Seat Girl and Dismantling Five Years... from what i've heard from the new album, Chocolate Wheelchair, Abomination Street would be one of those too. i wish he would take more time and release an album with only excellent tracks!! that would be nice. Plaid: i like them! but if i were to buy a new Plaid, i think i would get Trainer, from what i've heard... : ) |
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I could have phrased the original message reversing Aphex and ae, personally. I have loved every ae release so far. Some have been easier to get into than others, granted, but I can put any ae on at any time, and love it. I don't need to be in any particular mood for ae. Aphex, I have always been hot/cold with. With ICBYD and RDJ album, I could put it on and love it one day, then the next I would hate it. I haven't even heard DrukQs because he's never pulled me into his music enough for me to want to. But I don't want to start an ae v. Aphex debate, so my final answer is vinyl. |
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i agree with jand too. i don't mind waiting several years between albums, if the album is worth it! there's always other artists to look for while i wait... : ) but i also like Nurse With Wound- or Coil-style releases, they release several releases per year, which get harder and harder to get as long as time passes (i heard they were all in limited editions!), and are all pretty interesting in general... (there are other artists which release a lot of stuff while still being very good: Frank Zappa, John Zorn... some people think they're geniuses and i would quite agree... not all releases are essential of course but it's not like they're scamping their jobs =) ) it all depends on the artists. if they can release a lot of stuff all the time and still be very good, fine, but if they need more time then let them take it!! (for Venetian Snares, i heard he needed to release lots of stuff to keep in competition to make living out of his music and so... that's too bad, maybe he could release really great albums if he had more time... or maybe not, i don't know...) "a frequent release style such as Autechre or Venetian Snares where, pardon my tastes, sometimes the songs can get old fast." > i don't think Ae releases that much, nor gets old fast! °_° "albums like drukqs...ect last forever" > i haven't listened to drukQs for months, and i don't know if i will listen to it full-length again (though i like it very much)... it lasted only a few months for me. but i guess this is only me - SAWII, i think, will last years and years and years for me!! =) |
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i'm not sure that it matters how long you could wait for a timeless masterpiece by a certain artist. it seems quite subjective. most people tend to think that if someone realeases a new album every month it can be no good. but it's not always true. it varies from artist to artist. it depends on things like inspiration, amount of talent, etc. and i think that Autechre's albums definitely last longer than anything Aphex has ever produced. i constantly rediscover Ae's music and hear new things every time i listen to their tracks. and i think you should all agree that Aphex releases quite inadequate things sometimes. things that DEFINITELY don't last even a few days. |
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i rather wait for an album like drukqs, but then again (almost) everything i hear from afx sounds awesome so perhaps he could be releasing more stuff, i mean i've heard quite some live stuff from him and he could easily be releasing some of that...tho perhaps he is a perfectionist and he only wants to put out music that is going to last...i wish something alike dukqs would be relesed some time soon |
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autechre and v snares? the frequency of their music is rather different. maybe v snares and squarepusher circa 1999. |
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