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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:42 [#00854454]
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Anyone watching the Pres address the nation. What a nice, thoughtfull man. Its obvious he thinks everything through and is always one step ahead. You go Bush! Thanks for everything. See you in hell.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-09-07 18:44 [#00854455]
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what issue(s) did he address?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:44 [#00854456]
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Iraq
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:46 [#00854458]
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He's just started, but he mentioned afganistan and he is twisting the truth, lying, and reading straight off a telepromter. Saying shit how this war has been the most humane war ever.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-07 18:46 [#00854459]
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and how he had learnt to write his own name since becoming president.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-09-07 18:46 [#00854460]
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ah, what else is new :) I bet he had some great arguments and God bless america. (not that it shouldn't be blessed, but with GWB saying it, it sounds like a fucking joke - No God would ever bless that man, no-oo way, José)
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-09-07 18:47 [#00854461]
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that unsubstatiated gossip, mind you
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:47 [#00854463]
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He is using 9/11 to justify all this. Then like a hypocrite he said that "No longer will the Iraqi's fear a ruler with weapons of mass destruction." Oh and what the fuck are you Bush? You seem to fit this description also.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-07 18:48 [#00854464]
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OK first off Bush *is* a cunt and he is probably lying his ass off....
But nopne of us know the true story behind it all, WE can't really say he's lying coz none of us have actually been part of all sides.
Disagree if you want but I don't like political threads so I'm not gonna come back to read the replies.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-09-07 18:49 [#00854465]
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why this man hasn't been brutally assasinated already, surprises me deeply. (I guess that makes me as bad as him, if that's even possible..)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:50 [#00854466]
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I guess its because the people who are smart and see his bullshit are too civilized to kill another man.
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:50 [#00854468]
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all he is doing is giving all of the white trash, human trash, a pep talk........this country is so fucked........it is out of control..............we are being led into the fire by the antichrist...........fuck!
Akkad
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 18:52 [#00854470]
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I found a great article on this war and on bias in news:
I like the quote: "i'll never believe news is news; news is politics."
http://www.satirist.org/swapa/gulf-war.html
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-09-07 18:52 [#00854471]
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good point - but it doesn't justify why he's still alive. I truly hate that slob, he's a fucking parasite in my eyes.
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:53 [#00854472]
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the antichrist........
Akkad
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:54 [#00854474]
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yep
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 18:55 [#00854476]
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FUCK WE'RE ALL DEAD GET THE FUCK OUT
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 18:55 [#00854477]
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I think the creator of wikipedia should be president. He's the most morally minded person I've ever come across.
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:56 [#00854478]
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my friends and I could lead this fucker!
Akkad
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 18:57 [#00854479]
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Bah, i could do a better job. Vote for me.
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:00 [#00854483]
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ME!
Akkad
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:00 [#00854485]
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and my friends!
there has to be a couple of people......
Akkad
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Asche XL
on 2003-09-07 19:02 [#00854486]
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Politics....the natural causer of arguements.
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:02 [#00854488]
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but it's all useless, this administration will use nuclear war fare and destroy the earth....they are doing it slowly with oil............why not hurry along to the destination?
TOTAL EARTH ANNHILATION!
Are you gonna call for you mommy?
Right before you die..........
Akkad
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 19:09 [#00854492]
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The big problem is they are so thirsty for oil they've been neglecting North Korea. You think Kim Jong Il doesn't notice how the US's troops are so tied up they're reduced to begging for help from the UN? Now's a good time for him to make his move.
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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:10 [#00854493]
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well all you americans start chain e-mails with information about the bush govment. get people informed so that monster doesn't get re-elected. there's many things to inform. the lies about iraq/afghanistan and 9/11. the collapsing economy of the united states along with highest rates of uneployment ever. the enron and halliburton frauds, the energy crisis. the PNAC, how dick cheney, rumsfeld and co. are getting rich while the nation's getting poorer... you name it.
but do something
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Crovax
from S'toon (Canada) on 2003-09-07 19:22 [#00854505]
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bush is the biggest idiot ever. it hurts.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-07 19:25 [#00854509]
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weatheredstoner,
Oh pipe down. Iraq was a just war, has been and always will be. However post Iraq hasn't been handled well. Blair doesn't know jack and well Bush is a bit green in this respect. The whole thing post war has been handled badly. Some figurehead such as the previous King needed to be put in place with American/British backing and then we get the hell out of there. Then the King can act as figurehead and call for free elections.
Fact is half of Iraq are unappreciative, like it or not we saved them from a tyrrant and untold misery. And a lot of money is and has been ploughed into Iraq and they ought to be grateful. That said the way things have been handled post war has been pretty amateurish but I can't say that for this part of it I'm too surprised. Bush means well and has my backing but he needs to get his strategy right because ploughing another $80 odd billion into Iraq is a mistake. And well Blair he is just a befoon.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-07 19:36 [#00854520]
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I would be unappreciative too if people barged into my country, shouting how they're going to save my people, get rid of the evil dictator (which doesn't make us all go "yay" instantly because, frankly, we don't trust anyone anymore since that same dictator) and then kind of do nothing.
it's like taking the cancerous growth out but no sowing the body back up.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-07 19:37 [#00854521]
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and the idea of a "just war" is kind of proposterous.
war exists outside of normal ethical codes - that's the big problem with war. everything goes topsy-turvy.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-07 19:39 [#00854524]
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The only time military action is needed is in retaliation. 'Altruism' is not a reason to start a war
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:50 [#00854534]
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The bush administration spent 5 months planning the war and only 28 days planning the post-war.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-09-07 19:53 [#00854539]
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never underestimate the power of denial
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TehLaw
from around. (Canada) on 2003-09-07 19:55 [#00854541]
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"My fellow Americans, I called this meeting of the peoples to ask you a simple question: Was my name always spelt 'Bush' like the plant, not like 'Busch" the beer?"
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-09-07 20:02 [#00854543]
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it'd be interesting to see some real action taking place rather than the world kinda sitting back and watching. korea?
... if anyone really reacts or unites against the states, what would happen?
would the US just drop a shit load of nukes creating serious scorched earth than give up ? i seem to think so.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-07 20:08 [#00854546]
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all i have to say about the US's current state is "hello canada".
and what the FUCK is with this patriot act bullshit? i hope that doesn't pass, because i'm a terrorist for smoking blunts and writing ambient music.
life is going to suck so badly next year. until it ends the year after that in a nuclear winter.
*hides under blankets*
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-07 20:11 [#00854547]
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the city council over here has already enacted ordinances telling law inforcement not to comply with the patriot act.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-09-07 20:27 [#00854552]
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i wish Al Gore won it :(
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-07 20:31 [#00854557]
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he did win it.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-09-07 20:34 [#00854559]
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lol
in any event, the only good reply here is the one from OK.
if you're pissed, less bitching, more action
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-09-07 21:03 [#00854574]
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Sweden is next on the invasion list. Did you know Sweden was thinking about making an atombomb in the 50's. They even had designs for a modified J35 Draken fighter, that was supposed to deliver the package. Outgoing East with no return adress :)
-P
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-09-07 21:14 [#00854578]
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we're coming for you SWEDEN!!!!!
*puts on pirate mask and boards Sweden*
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-07 21:19 [#00854580]
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well the most civilized action would be to vote, but since voting no longer works, what's next?
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iBAN
from Brisvegas (Australia) on 2003-09-07 22:19 [#00854609]
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apathy
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-09-07 23:30 [#00854655]
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that depends on how convinced you are that we are truely heading into deadly waters.
there is activism in protesting, just talking to people about it.
organize a group to have your town ban the Patriot Act.
Hand out leaflets at public gatherings
You can take hostages.
--------- the limit to what you can do depends on how you feel. If you are just armchair bitching, (not you specfically, to everyone who might do it) then put up or shut up.
Get out there and change the voters minds, take prisoners, do what the situation demands, but never give up your freedom to do just that.
if you do, then you have already lost.
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magicant
from Canada on 2003-09-08 00:23 [#00854683]
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quote from kochlear: "all i have to say about the US's current state is "hello canada". "
?????
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diablo
on 2003-09-08 03:57 [#00854733]
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Notice how he is now practically begging the UN to help out in Iraq with more troops now after originally saying -fuck you, fuck your weapons inspectors, we're going in anyway.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 05:13 [#00854766]
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Listening to Bush's public appearences is like listening a psychopath I once knew - in most cases all you have to do is twist the meaning of what he's saying to the exact opposite.
"Well, there are some guys out there trying to rewrite history"
"Well, we have been trying to rewrite history for some time now"
I truly believe that if Bush gets a second term in office we (most of the world) will be in serious trouble... Dennis Kucinich seems like a good alternative.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 05:18 [#00854768]
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Well spoken BlatantEcho
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-08 06:24 [#00854819]
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I feel sorry for people on the board. Do you realise that it was only after World War 2 ended that we had any real idea of how bad the attrociaties of the death camps were. Just imagine if we had just taken a passive view. And yes Great Britain probably could have because quite frankly Germany had no real interest in Great Britain, in fact they really were seeking an alliance with us and didn't really want to go to war with Britain. So for pussys there was plenty of excuse not to go war. So just imagine if we had taken the cop out route. Even back then losers were looking for any excuse to avoid war. I just don't get it why you can't get it why people can't get it through their thick skulls that you cannot allow dictators and such to rape their countries and get away with it. They have to be dealt with whether it be Hitler, Saddam, Mugabe or some other nut.
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