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I've decided that I'm going PC instead of Mac (which should be interesting), I've got a new computer comming my way that I got for very cheap, but now I need to stock it with some cool music making software. Fuck this fruityloops shit. Thats kids stuff. Heres what I'm currently looking at: And I'll also have recycle, but thats free for me. Basically what I want (since I dont have any hardware synths) is to do everything on my computer. Suggestions are also welcome as I have not purchased anything yet, but I've fooled myself into believing that these programs would suit me well. I'm hoping that someone will come along and say "Thats some okay stuff dude, but check THIS out! And its all one program so you dont need anything else!" And then they would give me a link and I would check it out and say "Yeah dude, thats totally phat. Fo shizzle!" So any recommendations for kick ass music making software would be nice. |
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the above link has got everything you need basically. i love soundforge! |
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Ah, a soundforge user. So if I had soundforge, would the Kompakt be a waste, or would it complement the soundforge nicely? |
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soundforge is great but i do find cool edit pro better (more options and user friendly) |
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i've heard some interesting things come from cubase and reason - might try them also. but yes, fuck fruityloops, it does suck. |
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I've used cubase, its really not for me. |
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yes, cool edit pro rocks the boat |
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I use buzz... I use it for everything (it's "everything")..... and it's FREEWARE! supports VST/VSTi/dx plugins.. etc... + it has so many "built in" effects/generators... check: I think stuff like Reason might be better, but this is freeware, and very good... you can do great stuff with it. |
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yeah, probably. but you might want a midi controller for that. i'm not really sure, tho. Acid is great for sequencing loops (samples), while Soundforge is the only editing software where you can turn a farting sound into a flanged-breakbeat with muliple decay. |
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hahahaha, i use reaktor and buzz. also buzz is powerfull sortware (:, but i cant make pure sound, semples always loks like a biip, miip.. where the problem? maybe i need to connect more effects? :]]]] |
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where's the problem, friend? |
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i dont know.. ahahahhahahahahhahahahah |
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i reckon that cooledit pro is better than soundforge. the user interface (UI) is much much better and intuitive, the tiny .pk files it litters your harddisk(s) with are great! They allow you to load huge wavs into ram and zip to any point and play in about 2 secs, whereas scanning a fresh wav each time may take several seconds/mins (depending on size of course). Both cooledit and soundforge(my versions are from the late 90s) can mess up the sample end and start data when you use the copy to new features which is only a hassle with outboard gear(although simple to rectify). Reason is probably worth a look, although for me it causes more problems than it solves. if you dont like cubase, if it is cubase vst that sounds about right, if it is cubase sx/sl then less likely, so if you only tried the god awful vst try a sx/sl version(i still use vst/24 it sucks tho). if you really dont like cubase, then logic isnt an option anymore(unless you get v4 which works on a pc) perhaps sonar? get a demo or something. i really think you should get something like reaktor. if you need some dsp power get the powercore pci board to soup up your audio dsp and use good vocoders,reverbs,etc. if i were you, forget acid. stay with recycle. version 2 is the best ever. superb. dont get rebirth, its old and you dont want a 909 or 808 and you can get rubberduck for the 303. native instruments do a wicked softsynth of the sequential prophet5 which is great for nice 'analogue' sounds. hope that helps. |
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example i take jeskola bass, create pattern...so this generator used without effects listens ************, maybe i need to add effects? im try to experiment - and i dont have reuslts... |
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weatheredstoner - need to stock it with some cool music making software < hahahahhahahahhahmmmm! i dont know cool programs, i think musicmaking is not a game... |
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well the sound you get from simple generators like Jeskola Bass is really 'plain', so you will need to master the sound a bit. But you can add stuff like EQ/chorus/delay/reverb effects to it to make it sound more like you want it to.. but remember; more is less (e.g. when it comes to adding effects)! ;) if you want, just ask me more questions. I am no pro, but I've used the program for almost 2 years and I know a little about it... |
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I also recommend Buzz, definitely. It's not too easy to get into, reportedly (I don't remember having problems), but it pays off. dxc: Uh, yes. There's no point in using Buzz without effects. |
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Reason is cool but not serious enough for some people - Everything sounds a little toy-like I find... (internal fx & processing, especially compression, is pretty awful!) I'd definetly suggest checking out Renoise or Buzz - I prefer Renoise myself, mainly cos I use quite a bit of MIDI gear too. I used to use Logic and Cubase for everything, but they're really not too great for electronic music - Really designed for recording bands. Reaktor and Absynth are worth checking out for softsynths, FM7's worth a look too. You don't need any kind of software sampler if you're using Renoise/Buzz, they're like one giant super powered sampler/hardware-style sequencer. |
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to make things sound better, add a small amount of reverb(plate or cathedral maybe) and a digital delay line. both as send effects as opposed to inserts. ive never used this buzz thingy(hardware all the way baby!) but you should be able to adjust the routing on devices?? try converting sample rates/bit depth of samples which you use, e.g. drums samples at 16bit resolution then resampled to 12 bit sound decidedly better. dont forget your 24dB/4pole LP filters whack up the resonance for great effects. also slow lfo subtle panning/phasoring/flanging/filtering makes things sound better. dont forget compression as well. it doesnt make your sound radically different, but makes it of a more uniform level, so a typical fx chain would be input->eq->compressor->fx->mix the eq and compressor can be swopped around the difference is minimal, i.e. basically in-audible but the soud can be tweaked before the effect to make it sound oh so good when added to a song. |
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I'm not a huge fan of compressors, so I usually just use one, that I connect everything to (before, or before the thing before the master)... What are your thoughts on this? sHould I use a compressor for every input? |
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so question - whats that "cubase cakewalk"? |
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im sorry - Cakewalk Sonar |
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no not really. personally id use a compressor for vocals with eq, but since almost all wicked music is instamental thats irrelevant. if i want say a nice drum n bass type bass, with lots of low frequency boom but some mid frequency for the filter to play with, id compress then distort, (then compress again-maybe) cleans it up alot. If you are recording things like guitars, then a bit of compression is good for acoustics especially. listenen to the cheesy compressed fuzz bass on sabotage by the beastie boys...remember you adjust the ratio of compression, so it is only a subtle thing, say 2/10 compression just to help mix all the signals together,etc. with drums you could really have fun, with say 10/10 compression. i would only really compress signals which have a wide range between the quietest and loudest notes, but perhaps a little subtle 1/10 compression on the finished track maybe. it really depends on the circumstances. play with the attack and release for more subtle/exagerated effects. sorry for the crap advice, its tricky to explain properly. look on www.sospubs.co.uk sound on sound web site then goto the nav. pull down menu then technique and look up compression or something. good luck. |
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Compressors are the key to a kickass sounding mix (aside from eq of course). Buzz has some really great dynamics plugins too, which is helpful. It took me a while to get into Buzz, but once you understand it, are familiar with all the generators and effects and get in-tune with it's interface you'll find all other software annoying and counterproductive. It's also free, big plus point that. |
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thanks... maybe adding [just] a little compression to some things may make it sound better.... |
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i use and i like it! |
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