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offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-09-01 08:26 [#00844695]
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...and it was very good!


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-09-01 08:27 [#00844697]
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Describe...


 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-01 08:29 [#00844701]
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Good as in NOT bad.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-09-01 08:29 [#00844702]
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Nicholas Cage was excellent, especially given that he had to
play two parts. Just a really nice film. And who said that
the ending was bad? It tied in with what Charlie said
earlier in the film.


 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-01 08:30 [#00844704]
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Ending WAS bad. It NEGATED everything Charlie said earlier
in the film.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-09-01 08:31 [#00844706]
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Explain.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-09-01 08:32 [#00844709]
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Wait you haven't even seen it have you?


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-09-01 08:32 [#00844711]
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cheeky shit!


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-09-01 08:33 [#00844713]
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wow! 7.9/10 on imdb...that IS promising
linky

another Cage-movie I look forward to


 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-01 08:37 [#00844719]
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I have seen it. The whole film is about Charlie not wanting
to do anything obvious, Hollywood cliche. Drugs, car
chases, realization that he loves his brother etc. But it
ends with exactly that. Moral, of the story, you can't make
a Hollywood movie, without pandering to it's antiquated
standards and cliches?

To me that = bad ending.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-09-01 08:41 [#00844723]
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Isn't that supposed to be ironic or something?

Meh.

Junktion: Definately watch it.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-09-01 08:41 [#00844724]
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but it only did that when his brother helped him finish
writing the screenplay (that we were watching).

you = don't get it


 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-01 08:42 [#00844726]
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I get it. It's still a cop out.


 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-01 08:43 [#00844730]
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Unlike Being John Malkovich.
No cop outs there. The ending is as fucked up as hinted at
in the begining.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-09-01 08:48 [#00844744]
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Now that I can agree with.


 

offline gelding_man on 2003-09-01 08:50 [#00844749]
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Agreed then.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-09-01 18:15 [#00845478]
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i think its pretty good too, saw it when it first came out,
i did like being john malkovich better though, i do have to
say.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-09-01 18:16 [#00845481]
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Well Being John Malkovich is definately more of a comedy.

Adaptation was a comedy drama. (Or, drama comedy if you
will.)


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-09-01 22:04 [#00845613]
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sPOILER WARNING

don't you guys get it... charlie wants to make a boring
movie... and the movie IS boring for the first hour.... then
he talks to the writing guru guy who says: it doesn't
matter... just give them an ending they can remember... at
that point the movie itself turns completly nuts....
basically the movie is about making itself....

like when donald is like i'm gonna put a pop song in my
movie to break the tenision... and then later in the actual
movie they sing "happy together" and it is actually
funny....

i dunno this movie was so rad on so many different levels.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-01 22:07 [#00845616]
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supposedly he is now working on a film about a couple who's
marriage has turned to shit and now they were getting all
their bad experiences and memories surgically removed.

he had some insane title for it, can't remember though.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-01 22:09 [#00845617]
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oh, there it is on the IMdb.

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

synopsis: "Joel (Jim Carrey) is stunned to discover that
his girlfriend Clementine (Kate Winslet) has had her
memories of their tumultuous relationship erased. Out of
desperation, he contracts the inventor of the process, Dr.
Howard Mierzwaik (Tom Wilkinson), to have Clementine removed
from his own memory. But as Joel's memories progressively
disappear, he begins to rediscover their earlier passion.
From deep within the recesses of his brain, Joel attempts to
escape the procedure. As Dr. Mierzwiak and his crew (Kristen
Dunst, Mark Ruffalo, Elijah Wood) chase him through the maze
of his memories, it's clear that Joel just can't get her out
of his head."


er...


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-09-01 23:01 [#00845651]
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very intesting..


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-09-01 23:10 [#00845660]
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i'm surprised that no one has mentioned the single word that
should illuminate gelding_man about the ending of
adaptation, and the reason that charlie does apparently
choose to invoke a series of hollywood clichés: satire.
and yet the final conversation between charlie and his
brother contains a poignancy and humanity that is utterly
simple, but powerfully transformative. imo, not a bad
ending or a cop out in the least.

being john malkovich, on the other hand, has an ending that
requires one character, maxine, to inexplicably betray her
motivation to serve the plot resolution. a much weaker
resolution overall than adaptation, imo. still a very
enjoyable movie, however...



 

offline Q4Z2X on 2004-02-10 12:55 [#01067178]
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i saw this a while ago. it has got to be one of my favourite
movies. but one thing that i couldn't quite figure out
completely, is that, maybe charlie's twin brother is a
figment of his imagination. like how he talks about in the
movie, the movie writer will tell a story and then later
tack on that one or more the characters was just generated
by the main character's mind because of their mental
illness. i know it seems kind of ridiculous, but a lot in
movie is unbelievable to make a point about the stupid
nature of some movies with their implausible plot twists and
such. if you watch, his brother doesn't really interact with
other characters in it besides charlie, and then dies at the
end.. maybe his death is just supposed to symbolise that he
left his mind, or something. i know it can be interpreted
different ways, but that might be another layer of satire,
in that it goes along with the current american film fad of
imaginary characters.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-10 13:38 [#01067253]
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i really liked it the first time i saw it. but then i bought
it and have only watched it one more time. i find it loses
watchability when you already know what's going to happen.
like it's cool because of it's gimmik but once you are past
the gimmik, it doesn't have much going for it. kinda like
the movie Memento. i really liked it the first couple times
but other than it's crazy editing, it's a pretty boring
movie.

my opinion of course.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-02-12 15:33 [#01070484]
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trailer for that looks awesome!!!


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-02-12 16:06 [#01070542]
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i should watch that movie again tonight, i only watched it
once after me mom bought it and i did enjoy it. o yeah, and
memento gets better every time i watch it i must say. i love
looking for all the little things that continue from scene
to scene


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-15 13:31 [#01074402]
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I watched this today and I thought it was awesome. Quite
moving, and difficult to believe that it is true.


 


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