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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-01 08:26 [#00844695]
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...and it was very good!
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-09-01 08:27 [#00844697]
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Describe...
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gelding_man
on 2003-09-01 08:29 [#00844701]
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Good as in NOT bad.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-01 08:29 [#00844702]
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Nicholas Cage was excellent, especially given that he had to play two parts. Just a really nice film. And who said that the ending was bad? It tied in with what Charlie said earlier in the film.
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gelding_man
on 2003-09-01 08:30 [#00844704]
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Ending WAS bad. It NEGATED everything Charlie said earlier in the film.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-01 08:31 [#00844706]
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Explain.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-01 08:32 [#00844709]
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Wait you haven't even seen it have you?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-09-01 08:32 [#00844711]
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cheeky shit!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-09-01 08:33 [#00844713]
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wow! 7.9/10 on imdb...that IS promising linky
another Cage-movie I look forward to
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gelding_man
on 2003-09-01 08:37 [#00844719]
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I have seen it. The whole film is about Charlie not wanting to do anything obvious, Hollywood cliche. Drugs, car chases, realization that he loves his brother etc. But it ends with exactly that. Moral, of the story, you can't make a Hollywood movie, without pandering to it's antiquated standards and cliches?
To me that = bad ending.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-01 08:41 [#00844723]
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Isn't that supposed to be ironic or something?
Meh.
Junktion: Definately watch it.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-09-01 08:41 [#00844724]
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but it only did that when his brother helped him finish writing the screenplay (that we were watching).
you = don't get it
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gelding_man
on 2003-09-01 08:42 [#00844726]
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I get it. It's still a cop out.
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gelding_man
on 2003-09-01 08:43 [#00844730]
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Unlike Being John Malkovich. No cop outs there. The ending is as fucked up as hinted at in the begining.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-01 08:48 [#00844744]
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Now that I can agree with.
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gelding_man
on 2003-09-01 08:50 [#00844749]
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Agreed then.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-09-01 18:15 [#00845478]
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i think its pretty good too, saw it when it first came out, i did like being john malkovich better though, i do have to say.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-01 18:16 [#00845481]
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Well Being John Malkovich is definately more of a comedy.
Adaptation was a comedy drama. (Or, drama comedy if you will.)
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-09-01 22:04 [#00845613]
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sPOILER WARNING
don't you guys get it... charlie wants to make a boring movie... and the movie IS boring for the first hour.... then he talks to the writing guru guy who says: it doesn't matter... just give them an ending they can remember... at that point the movie itself turns completly nuts.... basically the movie is about making itself....
like when donald is like i'm gonna put a pop song in my movie to break the tenision... and then later in the actual movie they sing "happy together" and it is actually funny....
i dunno this movie was so rad on so many different levels.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-01 22:07 [#00845616]
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supposedly he is now working on a film about a couple who's marriage has turned to shit and now they were getting all their bad experiences and memories surgically removed.
he had some insane title for it, can't remember though.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-01 22:09 [#00845617]
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oh, there it is on the IMdb.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
synopsis: "Joel (Jim Carrey) is stunned to discover that his girlfriend Clementine (Kate Winslet) has had her memories of their tumultuous relationship erased. Out of desperation, he contracts the inventor of the process, Dr. Howard Mierzwaik (Tom Wilkinson), to have Clementine removed from his own memory. But as Joel's memories progressively disappear, he begins to rediscover their earlier passion. From deep within the recesses of his brain, Joel attempts to escape the procedure. As Dr. Mierzwiak and his crew (Kristen Dunst, Mark Ruffalo, Elijah Wood) chase him through the maze of his memories, it's clear that Joel just can't get her out of his head."
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-09-01 23:01 [#00845651]
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very intesting..
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-09-01 23:10 [#00845660]
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i'm surprised that no one has mentioned the single word that should illuminate gelding_man about the ending of adaptation, and the reason that charlie does apparently choose to invoke a series of hollywood clichés: satire. and yet the final conversation between charlie and his brother contains a poignancy and humanity that is utterly simple, but powerfully transformative. imo, not a bad ending or a cop out in the least.
being john malkovich, on the other hand, has an ending that requires one character, maxine, to inexplicably betray her motivation to serve the plot resolution. a much weaker resolution overall than adaptation, imo. still a very enjoyable movie, however...
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-02-10 12:55 [#01067178]
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i saw this a while ago. it has got to be one of my favourite movies. but one thing that i couldn't quite figure out completely, is that, maybe charlie's twin brother is a figment of his imagination. like how he talks about in the movie, the movie writer will tell a story and then later tack on that one or more the characters was just generated by the main character's mind because of their mental illness. i know it seems kind of ridiculous, but a lot in movie is unbelievable to make a point about the stupid nature of some movies with their implausible plot twists and such. if you watch, his brother doesn't really interact with other characters in it besides charlie, and then dies at the end.. maybe his death is just supposed to symbolise that he left his mind, or something. i know it can be interpreted different ways, but that might be another layer of satire, in that it goes along with the current american film fad of imaginary characters.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-10 13:38 [#01067253]
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i really liked it the first time i saw it. but then i bought it and have only watched it one more time. i find it loses watchability when you already know what's going to happen. like it's cool because of it's gimmik but once you are past the gimmik, it doesn't have much going for it. kinda like the movie Memento. i really liked it the first couple times but other than it's crazy editing, it's a pretty boring movie.
my opinion of course.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-12 15:33 [#01070484]
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trailer for that looks awesome!!!
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-02-12 16:06 [#01070542]
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i should watch that movie again tonight, i only watched it once after me mom bought it and i did enjoy it. o yeah, and memento gets better every time i watch it i must say. i love looking for all the little things that continue from scene to scene
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-15 13:31 [#01074402]
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I watched this today and I thought it was awesome. Quite moving, and difficult to believe that it is true.
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