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has anyone got any specifications for the soundcard on the Apple iBooks? I've got a Snow iBook 900MHz, and i'm amazed at the sound quality is it just me, or is it the bomb? |
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I don't know but I want one. THAT I do know. |
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i kid you not, it is the best computer i have ever used it's rock solid, and it's so portable you wouldn't believe it! |
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a power mac g5 would suit me just fine - if money wasn't an issue... |
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G5 mmmm. I too would like to possess one of these objects. But they're too freaking expensive! Have you seen the inside of the G5? It's as carefully designed as the exterior of a sports car. As opposed to the interior of a PC, which looks like someone took an ax to C3P0. |
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yeah but they don't do portable versions of that yet.....we probably wont see a portable G5 for about a year |
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PC's are fucking wank the hardware is too generic - that's why people have problems with them |
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aight - still, I'm pretty satisfied with my current pc - built it meself, and it's stable as hell. but i want a g5 nontheless |
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oh yeah, if you build your own then you're less likely to have problems.... but especially if you're running a microsoft OS then i really do feel sorry for you :( Microsoft is B A D since i got my iBook, i am NEVER going to buy a PC again.... or maybe just one of those ultra tiny Sony Vaio sub-notebooks (the one with the video cam on the lid) ;) heh I'm a sucker for Cool Edit and TRacks |
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I guess that's true about building your own, but mine is running windows xp pro, and I've never (since I built it) experienced any problems (I know, I find it hard to believe myself, but t'is true). |
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XP Pro, i have to admit, in some cases is stable as hell. but the thing that fucks me off about XP, is 1. it nicked a LOT of ideas from Mac OS X 2. The digitally signed driver shennannigans....what the fucks that about??! |
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Actually I disagree - you can get tremendous performance and stability out of a PC if you know what you're doing. But you have to be a techie, buy a white box and choose your own components. That's the beauty of a PC, that it's so open ended. The expense is in the time and knowledge required. But people like Apples for just the opposite reason - someone has already done all this testing and research and component-matching, and bundled it up in a slick sexy design so they can get the same stability and performance without having to learn a whole bunch of shit that is extraneous to what they want to actually use the computer for - making music or designing architecture or whatnot. The expense is in the money you have to spend as opposed to the time researching and tinkering. The problem with PCs is that people approach them thinking they can buy a Compaq or HP and just expect it to work like an Apple just works, while in reality it's stuffed with el cheapo proprietary motherboards and halfassed drivers with all kinds of components jammed together to maximise the profitability and lower the price. That's what gives PCs a bad name. But who can blame the PC users - like the Apple users, they don't want to be techies, they just want a working system. |
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I totally agree! (at least judging from the little I've seen of Mac OS X). And the digital signed driver thingy is a joke, I agree, but apart from that, all is cream :) |
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i do agree with you there..... the apples are made for out of the box workability, and yes, in the creative industry you don't wanna be spending days just getting stuff to work. PC's per se are good machines, you just have to choose the right OS for it. I would rather have a PC that i built myself with some distro of Linux, or Atheos installed, rather than use a microsoft os. I am glad that i spent most of my childhood being a geek and spending all day on my PC, because i know A LOT more than i would have known, and it made the migration from Windows 98, to Linux, to Mac OS 9, to Mac OS X very easy |
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Hell, I'm not a techie, but I still managed to build my own. Bougth decent cards and smacked it all into a box, flipped the switch, and there it was: blue skies. |
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the major thing that microshaft nicked from OS X is the cd burning capabilities nativly in the OS there's other little niggles in there, but there are quite a lot of things nicked from OS X. |
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Well what the heck can I say, the gods must have pooped a blessing on you. :-) I always seem to struggle to get a decent system together. |
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You know what? That's actually true :) Sheer luck, I call it, hehe imma take a shower, aight :) |
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You can only really know computers from using a command line interface. You have to for example understand directory structure to do that. It's astounding how few people understand this - they have no idea "where" their data is. I'd love to use Linux all the time - unfortunately my work requires some tools that are only available on Windows so far. :-( |
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To answer your question, I do not know off the top of my head what the sound card is. But if I assume that you a running OSX 10.2 follow this directory path. Macintosh Hard drive -> Applications -> Utilities Then launch Apple System Profiler. Once it has finished scanning , click on the Devices and Volumes tab. Then click on the arrow next to PCI and Built-in AGP. This should reveal what the card type is. I think the audio and video cards are combined in many cases. My i-mac says NVDA GeForc4 MX Mac's are all still PC's (Personal Computer), They are just a better thought out integrated product rather than random components chucked in a poorly designed casing. Which is always going reduce the amount of potential for glitches/crashes and bombs. |
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well, they're personal computers alright, but not in the same sense that PCs are PC's use a *86 architecture, based on the 8086 chips from days of yore. macs are based on RISC CPU's, (reduced instruction set), so they are a different breed |
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ok, i'm seriously considering getting an ibook to do my graphic design work with. Does anyone here use photoshop 7 on it? Does it run ok? I've seen a second hand ibook for about £550, its the 600mhz with combo drive. You rekon its a good buy? |
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"I think the audio and video cards are combined in many cases." Jaser: nah...not really, on portable and several consumer macs they are often located on different areas on the same motherboard, that?s all. (though I see your point, they are hard to switch...almost always impossible) You can read a lot about the indepth details about macs in Apple?s "developer notes": http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Hardware. html (btw - portable macs are great for reasonable latency using the built in soundcards - 11 ms in OS 9 & 2-3 ms in OS X! Try that on a pc laptop...) |
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*bump* come on, there must be some people with ibooks that use photoshop here! |
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hi guys, i own an apple ibook 800 Mhz, i play music live with it and record in my home studio as well, quite solid. Never had serious issues with it. I run Logic Audio and Ableton Live with no prob. AN apple g4 12" it's the best i think.. My girl uses photoshop and other graphic stuff with it and it's quite good.. cheers www.mindseye.it |
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i'm running Photoshop 7 on my iBook 900MHz 384MB RAM system, and it's great i used to use Paint Shop Pro on Windows, and i would NEVER touch photoshop - i didn't like it but when I got my Mac and I got using Photoshop, i have come to like it better than anything else....paint shop pro is for kiddies! lol |
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do you think £550 is a good price for a second hand 600mhz? |
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is it a snow one, or one of the candy-coloured ones? if it's a snow one, depending on the aesthetic condition of the machine, then i guess that's a good price for one what's the other specs on it? RAM, HDD, Optical drive? |
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Its the new shape (snow) specs: G3 600mhz 256 Ram 20GB Hard Drive Combo Drive (DVD - CDRW) |
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if i get it i'll prob max the Ram which i think is 640 |
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Been using Macs since 1984. They just keep getting better. Especially this 17" PowerBook I'm typing on at the moment. :-) |
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yep, that's definately worth £500-£600 i'd snap that one up right away if i hadn't already spent out over £1000 on mine |
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do you know if its possible to get the screen replaced? there is a small scratch at the top corner, its not a problem really but i might want to replace the screen in the future. |
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im sure you'd be able to get parts somewhere.. im sure there are apple wreakers around that buy busted macs and salvage parts.. if you went thru apple it'd prolly cost a pretty penny.. but if all else fails they prolly got parts too. its (the screen) lcd and portable so wont matter what country you order it from. it runs off batteries so the power voltage will be universal. |
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there is a site called macspareparts or something which has all the hardware cheaper. Still expensive though. If you want a good community try macrumors.com |
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do these ibooks ahve a line in?? i remember reading the specs a while ago and it didnt mention anything about one. the powerbooks mentioned it had one.. coz that would totaly suck if it didnt have one and you intended to use it for audio/music purposes.. i know you could rip stuff from cd for sample'n.. but line in is very handy. |
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ibook Audio: *16-bit CD-quality stereo sound output minijack. *Built-in stereo speakers *Built-in microphon. powerbook G4 Audio: *Audio line in (minijack). *Headphone out (minijack). *Built-in stereo speakers with midrange-enhancing third speaker (12-inch model). *Two built-in stereo speakers (15-inch and 17-inch models). *Internal omnidirectional microphone (12-inch and 15-inch models). *Internal omnidirectional microphone (located under left speaker grill) (17-inch model). |
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the minijack could double over as both. tho i have a feeling that its just audio out? that's what i got on ma G4 desktop :| ... guess that's what 3rd party soundcards are for! :) |
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iBooks have only audio out. |
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how many slots does it have for installing ram? |
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its ok, i just found out. |
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i just bought it for £500, bargain! Cant wait till i get it in the post, Apple's rule! |
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good stuff lemon pants... keep us informed as to how it works out for you.. im interested in either an ibook or powerbook. good luck with it : ) |
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I've got a 500mbz original titanium powerbook g4, and it's shititng me... the 400/500mhz models had major defects; i.e. the paint peels off even incredibly quicker than the later models, and I've recently been hit by the random dead pixels on the LCD. i've got 3 nice colourful lines on my display. searching around indicates to me other people have the same issue and my display's probably going to die entirely soon. sigh. os x also fucking shits me to the max sometimes, so many stupid little bugs. i mean, its nice, i really love a lot of the mentalities; it definitely is a cool os, but too goddamn buggy at times. and its still too slow, even on a 1ghz g4. hoping the g5 will make things quicker. get to play with one in september, yay. that said though, whatever sound chip is in it (linux picks it up as a 'screamer', heh!), it fucking rocks - *so* clear. so amazingly clear. my sb live! sounds like shit compared to it. |
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ok.. interesting.. thanks for the info xf. |
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that said - i'm running 10.3 beta on my laptop, and i'm impressed. there are still some stupid bugs, but some of the major ones are gone; i'm hoping the bugs there are only because it's beta. g5 should make things a million times faster too. g5+10.3= rule, i hope. |
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what was wrong with 10.2.4-6 ?? seems to work for me ok .. tho perhaps a bit sluggish. i've also heard the 1st generation g4 laptops have problems, something about the titanium bending (?) -> which i guess could fuck your pixelation. damn shame, apparently the new ones (17" and 12") and the new 15" ??!! have some new synthetic thing that's meant to stop shit like that happening? |
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replacing my old g4 15" 550mhz tomorrow with a shiny 12" g4 867mhz. hooray! my first one is proper knackered. good for a dual display setup if i can get it to work. |
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""Never ask a man what computer he uses. If it's a Mac, he'll tell you. If it's not, why embarrass him?" |
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any decent games that will run on the ibook? I've only got Starcraft, which is the best rts you can buy, even today. |
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