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thinking of starting this diet, any inforamtion that could help me would be appreciated, |
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a quick google produced . watch yourself, mate. |
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my parents did it and lost tons of weight, however it revolves around MEAT MEATY MEAT MEAT which will both a) eventually cause us to have to resort to eating each other and b) long before that, cause your lil heart to explode after your arteries, muscular and respiratory system are totally thinned away into devastation. go veggie, go vegan, go to weight watchers every thursday, whatever, be healthy, don't do atkins. AND I am down off the soapbox, it's up for grabs now. |
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yeah, know people who have tried it, the results seem to decrease your weight, but you don't seem to be healthier overall. beats me, I'm not scientist, but what is wrong with eating moderate amounts of healthy stuff and working out? |
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I *usually* don't have the time for either |
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oh yeah, you were working 20 hour days or something what do you do again? |
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fit really fucking big doors (the ones that divide classrooms and offices) I broke my leg a few months back, and sitting around on my arse made me gain some weight, I can't do most aerobic exercises because it puts too much strain on my legs, so what I'm looking for is a "quick fix" to get me back on track |
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oh in that case go for it, friend |
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yeah, I'd have to agree, your case is something that it might get you going again. how do you get a job installing doors though? Is that job shit, or does it pay well? |
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you know, sometimes I type like English isn't my first language.... or second........ :( |
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the job is very demanding, there are 2 companies in my state that do these types of thing, and the other has a bad reputation so we get ALL of the work, I got the job becuase my fathger works there, although, I'm lucky to see him more than twice a week, we're always out doing our own thing, I get paid VERY well, and I like the work involved, although the hours are sometimes a bitch |
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fuck atkins... what does he know? I say go vegan! what are youe reasons for starting with this diet? |
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oh yeaH... key is drunk at the moment =| |
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that's why we love you key ^^ |
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yeah. do it until you're back on track and then, do penance for the rest of your life in a gregorian chapel in the alps. or go vegan. whichever's clever |
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that's why =/// I thought it was something else. anyway. what are your reasons for starting with this diet? I know this diet has got bouth good and bad media-attention but I don't believe in meat.... If you want to do something great, and your body a favour, start out on a rawfood diet! :) (I'm a rawfoodist, so I know what I'm talking about) |
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ahem I broke my leg a few months back, and sitting around on my arse made me gain some weight, I can't do most aerobic exercises because it puts too much strain on my legs, so what I'm looking for is a "quick fix" to get me back on track |
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well... my advice is to start out on a rawfood (vegan) diet. It will kick your ass... but you'll fell better than you'll never ever felt before (once you're done detoxing)... and you will loose weight, naturally... rawfood is the KEY! :))) |
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what sort of things are "rawfood" waht would I be eating? |
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raw food, love! anything you don't gotta cook. it is true it will kick your ass, but you'll have so much energy. my friend dustin did it, he only required four hours of sleep a night to feel totally fantastic. he said it was the best thing he ever did. like celery, seeds, fruit, whatever. essentially you eat like a kangaroo rat. |
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rawfood = not cooked food. as you might understand it's the most natural diet (no animals eat cooked food, right) and this is the diet we were 'created for'... ah... it's a total eyeopener. =) start now and you don't have to start in 10 years or whenever the society has 'caught up' (I'm never going back)... it rules. oh... me being drunk again.... btw a rawfood diet = a diet which consists of atleast 75% raw food... my diet is around 90%+ but it's nice anyway. also if you *only* wanna loose weight - try fasting! it works very fine + it's natural if you it in a "natural way"... |
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raw food = love yes..... it rules. |
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whats the mineral and vitamin intake on an atkins diet? guess you can always have supplements, but i'd say with a leg bone that's healing, them sort of things prolly more in demand than usual? |
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all of this has inspired me to start a rawfood diet, thanks key bad nannou |
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good point |
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gooooo team! a convert! good luck. tough stuff. wait'll you see how much MONEY you save though! |
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Yeah detoxing is definetly the best way, also makes you a lot healthier long-term... The toxins released into your blood stream after a couple of days on vegan food, + no dairy, no wheat, no yeast, no alcohol, etc... lower your bloody sugar quite a bit, so you feel a bit weak and crappy, but you're buring more fat, all the time, same way diet pills work, but much safer cos you can just eat some fruit if you get too low... |
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I like your posts, J, are you vegan? |
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course, in the midst of detoxing your body, you'll just fill it with alcohol, so the results must be mixed....... anyway, fasting is a poor way to loose weight. Your body interpertes you not eating as a lack of food in the environment, and it stores fat that might be needed should you really not be able to get food. |
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what foods should I go out and buy? what sort of "rawfood" keep well, (just so I don't have to fo out and buy fresh food everyday |
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well... adopting to raw food for just a moment? then I'd advice you to do a short fast instead (if you only wanna loose weight) but if you're in for it for real, this is the basics: you need food from all four groups: sweet fruits, fat fruits, non-sweet fruits and green leafy-vegetables... there are different ways to balance it, and you'll have to find what fits your body! I eat from each food group every day (unless I'm fasting) and I've been a rawfoodist for a year (soon)... How serious are you on adopting to rawfoods? it will change your life (a positive thing) and you will get a totally different perspective on the world... but trust me it's all worth it (detoxing can be REAL hard, depending on what you're body got left to detox)... how serious are you on this? |
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most rawfoods "keep well"... Avacados (and bananas I guess) are the fastest to go unwell... ah you will learn so much while you're on this (if you decide to go with it) |
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smoke crack and shoot up, you'll lose heaps of weight. never had to worry about diets myself so i couldn't tell ya, if anything i think i could put on some weight. |
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lol, same here. gained 6 lbs this summer, want to pack on another 5 or so int the next month. Lots of protein and decent amount of working out seems to do the trick. |
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the decision was made on a whim, but often these sort of decisions end up permanant (just like, one day I decided to stop watching television, and I haven't since, and I'm all the better for it) |
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aside from our anime, right? *nudge nudge* |
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I watch them on my computer though ;) |
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working out seems like to much hard work. go sumo style i reckon, eat heaps of food then go to sleep. if i keep that up maybe i'll fit into them sumo g stringz |
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fair enough. i don't watch television either, so i'd hate to have this count against that. heh. |
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Any low-calorie diet will work. It doesn't matter what the fuck you eat - be it vegitarian or carnivorarian. I lost 65 pounds in four months on Atkins Induction plus exercise. Eat sensibly and lift weights and do cardio. I recommend running for 30 minutes four times a week in conjunction with a low calorie diet. |
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I tried it and I just felt sick after a week All that fat and meat and crap really makes you feel shitty =o( I'm a total carnivore and never thought I'd get sick of eating meat but I couldent face any more =o( I find it easier just to watch your calorie intake |
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just FYI, going vegie/vegan doesn't neccessarily mean you lose weight. i became a vegetarian, for personal, although not cosmetic, reasons -- before i learned to eat right, i just made up based on pasta and cheese, and gained quite a bit of weight initially. takes some discipline to pull it off right, you know. |
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Why become a vegitarian? Is plant life any less sacred than animal life? If so, why? |
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i grappled with this question, and other ethical questions, for a very long time. eventually, i came to understand that it is impossible to derive a system of values from empirical data -- and that any a priori reasoning ultimate fails too -- in other words, that it is quite simply impossible to form a system of ethics on reason alone (though i much admire kant's effort). so, my defense for this particular dogma is the selfsame excuse i give for all my moral imperatives: because i feel like it. i think it's the only genuine excuse for any moral action. the other bit, which plays a bit, but nonetheless important part in my decision, is the aesthetic: i find slaughterhouses absolutely revolting, and that my food should come from a place like that absolutely nauseates me. i repressed it quite successfully for a while (hamburgers grow on trees!), but just couldn't anymore at one point. so i stopped. |
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is that schopenhauer in your avatar, by the way? |
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It's Beethoven. I am an undergrad in philosophy though. I'm now in the process of writing my Senior Seminar paper on rationality and morality with an emphasis on Stirnarian Egoism. I can appretiate your concerns regarding the consumption of animal corpses, although I can not say i share them. Being an epistemological "skeptic"/"post-modernist" I have a very difficult time arriving at any moral/ethical principles with certitude. |
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Existence is strange - as children we remember this. |
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Oh, you replyed to a Modest Mouse post. Cool. |
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"Bacon Tastes Good" - Pulp Fiction |
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certitude i don't have -- but then, certitude is by nature flimsy. that any value whatsoever is dubious and suspect i can entirely sympathize with. still, i'm not very interested in certainty -- that quest is tinged by the rationalist hunt for the formula that will decrypt existence -- and i'm rather skeptical that one exists. what i am looking for, however, is internal accord, and a certain aesthethic harmony of thoughts and actions. i don't think ethical values are any different than aesthetic values -- at first glance, it seems as though it would be easy to draft universal rules for beautiful/ugly or good/bad -- but the more you investigate, the highly subjective and arbitrary nature of these things becomes apparent. so you're left with a subjective, arbitrary inclination to behave a certain way -- so what? works for me. i'm a bit puzzled by what you mean when you dub yourself a "postmodernist", ethically. i think that's a very, very broad playing field, with its share of staunch moralists (rorty, for example) i like that existence quote; who is that? sounds like schopenhauer or nietzsche. |
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