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maybe its just me, but is anyone else feeling dissatisfied by the current electronic music scene? i don't bother buying most of the warp albums anymore cos they dont do anything for me: why the fuck would i want to buy an album by beans? plaid hasn't changed in years- autechre has slipped into the territory for chin-strokers, squarepusher has lost his groove and aphex is MIA. who's gonna sort out this mess, are there any up-and-coming artists who can kick-start things again? |
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What the hell is a "Chin-stroker"? |
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Nah, you're right, I know what you mean. It's not as good at the moment as it was a few years back, at least. Orbital, Underworld and the Chemical Brothers have lost it, FSOL haven't released a truly 'electronic' record in years (just wait for the new one next year, though), and what happened to Photek? Hmmm. |
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Someone who strokes their chin, I imagine. |
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Warp is ot the ONLY good label for IDM. |
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In an artsy-fartsy way?I don't think that's the typical Autechre-listener. I think Ae, Sqp and Afx is as good as ever (except the last Afx-single). And there are new talents like Chris Clark and Sote on warp, wich make excellent music. |
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Ae are certainly more... thinking music than before, I think it's fair to say. Very abstract and so on, as we all know. I think they're still excellent, though. Never liked Squarepusher. And AFX hasn't had a proper release since Drukqs, so I don't think it's fair to judge what he's up to at the moment. I'm hoping the next album will build on the little experiments he's put out on the MEN label. |
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but with advent of broadband porn i don't think we are gonna see an aphex album for some time, so i will have to be content with plug-in monkeys who shitspray the scene with piss-poor albums: respect to all the artists who are in a lull but fuck all the young tampon eating cunts who never produced a good track in their lives... |
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I think everything is just fine. |
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Get yourself some 'Signal Generator'.... but then I would say that..... |
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what about rephlex? |
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Hmm Rephlex.... the name rings a bell.... :> |
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what does "MIA" mean? ' _ ' i don't know about new releases... 26 Mixes for Cash was pretty great imo but that was nothing new... i still have good surprises in electronica but i don't care about newness, i buy new albums as well as old ones so even if all new things are crap i still have lots and lots of older electronica to check =) i'm turning more towards rock and lowercase/minimalisitc though lately. but that's just a period, it happens. |
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Missing In Action ? |
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Warp is not as goo das it used to be. It is still good though. I have to respect them for trying to branch out and diversify. None of it has gotten me though. |
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Occ_Rec > probably... thanks! |
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whats this about a new FSOL album next year?????? |
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venetian snares' chocolate wheel chair album is going to kick ass. |
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well Richard Devine is pretty good, along with Mira Calix and Chris Clark. Try listening to some other artists rather than just the well known ones... also try artists from other labels, Susumu Yokota is imho the best person making Electronic music at the moment. |
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I was just writing the same thing over on WATMM! Yeah, there's some decent music floating about, but nothing that really grabs/inspires me these days - It's worse if you've been into this music for a long time cos I remember when every album on warp was worth buying. Now I'd be lucky if I buy one a year - In fact, it's probably less than that now. There's too much insane/glitchey stuff for me now, and not enough real music. |
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maybe its not the music. maybe its just you. try listening to other styles of music, maybe ur just tired of electro. |
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Yeah I was going to say the same thing as Neo, if you're looking for what you call 'real music' you're in the wrong genre to being with. |
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i don't understand why everyone is so eager for change. i don't think there's anything wrong with the style now. you are probably just trying to figure out what you are into and you tried idm for a while. idm might not be what ur looking for. |
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I love the weirder stuff, especially Fennesz, COH, Matmos, Vladislav Delay, Pierre Bastien and later Autechre. |
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Ghostdog - FSOL are releasing a new album next year. It'll actually by FSOL (unlike The Isness, which was Amorphous Androgynous), and is supposedly going to contain samples of The Isness, only mixed up and put together in an electronic way. Then there'll be another Amorphous Andrognyous album (kind of like The Isness 2), and before those we have another single from The Isness (Divinity). Oh, and there should be a DVD sometime. |
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Well I see the potential of electronic music, I've been into warp since I was 13/14 years old, used to buy every release religiously - and I'm still listening to those albums today, so are my friends - There's was so much great music being made back then - Now I feel a lot of it is watered down by style issues... I do love a lot of the recent stuff, definetly, but I'll usually just buy something, listen to it a few times, then forget about it - I haven't found anything/anyone in recent years that can really compair to the classics from Aphex, FSOL, Autechre, Black Dog, etc... That's the way I feel anyway. |
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I still love FSOL! I look forward to their new album a LOT! They seem completely unphased by everything that's happening in the rest of the electronic scene. |
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This seems a suitable time for a sneaky |
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well i've had 8 years with electronic music, and believe me I know what i like, compare something like "my red hot car" to big loada and you see what i mean. artists work seems to have slipped considerably over the last few years: warp albums used to be events but now they just slip out, sell a few copies, get mixed reviews and get mp3'd to death. only aphex releases get me excited nowdays and they are few and far between. rephlex is good but usually lack the depth of their old warp counterparts. skam is quiet at the moment, leaf always seem to be slightly off the mark, worm interface has vanished, and planet-mu is to electronic music what limp bizkit is to metal. a big breakthrough needs to come soon or it will all die on the vine... |
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Dont I know it. |
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to those wishing for the great sounds of past years and i totally undestand where you guys are coming from - i would say try ceephax - exidy tours on firstcask , its squarepushers lil borther let loose on his equipment by the sound of it and it kicks royal arse . the new chris clark is ok (managed to get a copy on friday)and for anyone wishing for the ae style sound arovane - icol diston is a great example of this sound |
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Fortunately for me, the latest Boards of Canada, Squarepusher (Go Plastic) and esepecially Autechre have impressed the hell outta me. My problem is that I'm just not interested in the latest additions to the roster. They need to sign something exciting like Radian. But alas, they are now with Thrill Jockey. |
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I think warp need to get back to the roots and push really interesting innovative electronic music without careing about sales and image so much - That's how they used to be - The Artificial Intelligence series was a labour of love, it didn't sound even slightly marketable at the time. These days Warp just remind me of that '97 trip hop phase - I don't know why, I find the music from Ninja Tune/Mo Wax pretty dull and uninspiring on the whole, but it seems like Warp has been heading in that direction for the last half decade or so. They need to take some chances and sign some real cutting-edge talent to the label... Forget about the rest of the music industry and just put out what they believe in. I get the feeling all the major players in the scene are too picky and style consious nowadays. |
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check i think they are great. |
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well great I feel now that I dont have money! |
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yeah, there's more then electronic music out there... try listening to something else... |
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jingle if all you base your enjoyment of electronic music on iare warp artists then forget about it - do a bit more exploring - rephlex are hot at the moment - ai are hot planet mu are pretty good , alot of people on this site judging by their record bags judge electronic music thru the narrow margins of what warp put out - if you were really into it and you explored more and opened up more you wouldn't be bored no more |
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maybe that's just what is in the discog section. |
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personaly apart from aphex, squarepusher and some individual track from plaid boc autechre i've never worshipped warp the way alot of people do - i've prefered alot of other stuff - warp are quite boring and have been for ages |
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no but it's generally true - for example this thread - is electronic music dead (then goes on to discuss warp artists soley) there is so much great music around at the moment (including soe newer warp stuff) people should spread their wings a bit and sample other things |
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Maybe the thrread should have been called 'Is Warp Dead?' |
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my answer is no - like most record labels it still releases good records - BUT it's not the godhead and it's a bit much to expect it to always come up to your personal expectations - for me anyway they haven't released anything as exciting as the bug or asa chang this year |
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I don't think there is anything wrong with the scene, i just think people need to do more themselves if they are not happy with it and then maybe they will spend more time being productive then sitting around moping about the fact that they are ultimatly bored from sitting on their arses. |
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Yeah the scene is great - I've never known it to be healthier to be honest - But I'm just not too excited about anything these days - There is decent music being made, but there's not been anything that's blown me away, or that I'll prolly be listening to in a few years time that I've bought in the last few years... I'm sure there will be some new direction/innovation at some point in the future, maybe a new label or artist who really inspires everyone, cos that's why the scene was so great in the first place, everyone was vibeing off each other and breaking new ground... But Warp, yeah, they need to sort it out - The scene does kind of benefit from having a Godhead style label like that - It's just that Warp haven't released anything too ground-breaking for a long time IMO... Their output just isn't as musical, interesting or evolving as it used to be. I dig Mu and Rephlex, but they're mainly releasing crazy dance music, not enough of the home listening stuff for me. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I want melody and emotion, interesting sounds and samples in electronic music - There's nothing I've found in recent years that sounds as fresh as FSOL's old ambient stuff, or RJ's early/mid 90's output... |
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electronic music, just like most music being produced nowadays.. is becoming much too soulless.. i know that's how it's always been.. but it seems like the trend is to become as cold and heartless and possible while using only weird noises and no melody.. not that there can't be good music made this way, but it just seems like no one is willing to make something with any emotion put into it anymore.. |
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ahh.. i don't mean it's always been like that.. but people have always criticized electronic musicians for making soulless music.. now it's becoming like they are writing music for stoned robots to listen to.. |
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tanks for the FSOL info purlieu - excellent news man!! just the thought of FSOL DVD made me cream my pants! |
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what a bunch of crap. there is ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS good music to be found. you just have to get off your fat complaining arses and go find it. I mean, come on. what a load of shit. |
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