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         |  Phresch
             from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-08-16 11:22 [#00824497] Points: 9989 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | i've just downloaded Opera 7, but i'm not too sure about installing it. i read that Opera is a bit faster than IE,
 but that's about it.  Are there any other pro's and con's
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         |  Mush
             from Westfield (United States) on 2003-08-16 11:42 [#00824512] Points: 60 Status: Regular
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 | Besides being open source (i think) I find opera to be just all around better than IE or netscape.  I have never tried
 Mozilla (which opera is based off of, I believe) but i hear
 good things about that as well.
 
 Pros
 - nice interface (I find the new version of IE has seemed to
 borrow some ideas from Mozilla/opera)
 - Free/open source in direct competition with microsoft
 
 As for being faster than IE, i am not discerning enough to
 tell, but i would like to think so.
 
 just my opinion, but dont be afraid to give it a try
 
 
 
 
 
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         |  Q4Z2X
             on 2003-08-16 11:45 [#00824514] Points: 5264 Status: Lurker
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 | nothing beats netscape 2.0 
 and... mush, that avatar is slightly disturbing..
 
 
 
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         |  Mush
             from Westfield (United States) on 2003-08-16 12:01 [#00824531] Points: 60 Status: Regular
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 | "and... mush, that avatar is slightly disturbing.." it is isnt it? it still frightens me.... It is actually
 Cabbog and I shortly after shaving our heads last year...
 
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-16 12:06 [#00824536] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Mush: #00824512
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 | Opera is not based on Mozilla at all. Mozilla is open source and Opera is proprietary.
 
 Mozilla kicks my head's ass. I couldn't live without the
 popup blocking, tabbed browsing, mouse gestures - oh wait,
 Opera has those too. Well Mozilla is free, open source,
 standards compliant and constantly improving, nyah nyah.
 
 One thing that utterly annoys me about Opera is that you
 can't save your bookmarks as an html file to import them to
 Mozilla. You have to get a third party app like
 bookmarkpriest to do that.
 
 
 
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         |  Phresch
             from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-08-16 12:24 [#00824558] Points: 9989 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | thanks 
 
 
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         |  Mush
             from Westfield (United States) on 2003-08-16 14:16 [#00824607] Points: 60 Status: Regular
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 | thanks fleetmouse, had my facts a bit wrong there-  Mozilla it is, then. Long live open source, and people who think
 they know what they are talking about, but really dont!
 
 
 
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         |  Cfern
             from Sacto (United States) on 2003-08-16 14:18 [#00824608] Points: 1384 Status: Lurker
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 | its crap 
 try mozilla firebird... it's the best browswer there is
 
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-16 14:39 [#00824615] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Cfern: #00824608
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 | Firebird is basically Mozilla Lite - it uses the same page rendering engine but has a different application framework
 and toolkit. I find it's not as solid as Mozilla but it'd
 probably run better on an older system.
 
 
 
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         |  nlogax
             from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-17 02:07 [#00824917] Points: 4653 Status: Regular
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 | I've been using opera for quite some time, and I would NEVER EVER even concider going back to either Internet Explorer or
 Netscape. It's only after you've started using Opera, you
 realize what crappy applications IE & NS are. Especially IE.
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-17 03:21 [#00824925] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | mozilla takes my fancy 
 
 
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         |  aphextriplet
             from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-17 03:24 [#00824927] Points: 4731 Status: Lurker
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 | opera is w3c compliant. so its good for making websites under, unfortunately the chances are, a lot of websites will
 look stupid under it cause they werent built to w3c
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         |  nlogax
             from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-17 06:05 [#00825035] Points: 4653 Status: Regular
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 | I've never experienced problems with that. Opera is God 
 
 
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         |  Phresch
             from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-08-17 06:15 [#00825041] Points: 9989 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | ok, you have convinced me. IE is going in the bin! 
 
 
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         |  nlogax
             from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-17 07:16 [#00825068] Points: 4653 Status: Regular | Followup to Phresch: #00825041
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 | atta boy! this marks the start of a whole new internet-epoch for you my fr00d :)
 
 
 
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         |  Phresch
             from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-08-17 08:44 [#00825119] Points: 9989 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | Oh yaah! i love the mouse gesture thingie...right-click, LEFT! right-click, RIGHT! ...shit, i could do this all day!!
 
 
 
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         |  Phresch
             from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-08-17 09:02 [#00825133] Points: 9989 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | only thing i need now is a supafly skin! 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2003-08-17 09:23 [#00825148] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | mozilla is the cat's meow. 
 
 
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         |  nlogax
             from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-17 09:53 [#00825176] Points: 4653 Status: Regular | Followup to Phresch: #00825119
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 | yeah, the mouse-gestures - you gotta love that, huh :) 
 
 
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         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 09:54 [#00825177] Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to Phresch: #00824497
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 | i've heard knowledgable computer nerds speak quite favourably of Opera
 
 thats gotta give it some credibility
 
 
 
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         |  cx
             from Norway on 2003-08-17 09:55 [#00825179] Points: 4537 Status: Regular
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 | ie is nice for easy link clicking  :P i don't like opera because i had to refresh the page alot,
 and i was never sure if i saw updated content or not.
 thats the only reason its faster than ie, it stores
 everything so the page pops up right away.
 
 at one point i couldn't even get it to download the latest
 content from a forum. i opened ie and there it was, new
 threads and all. well, there's probably an option for it
 somewhere but i wont bother :P
 
 
 
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         |  nlogax
             from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-17 09:57 [#00825182] Points: 4653 Status: Regular | Followup to AMinal: #00825177
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 | for a good reason, I might add 
 
 
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         |  tunemx
             from Budapest (Hungary) on 2003-08-17 10:29 [#00825210] Points: 2145 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
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 | mozilla firebird for windows galeon/mozilla for linux
 safari for mac
 
 forget the opera junk
 
 
 
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         |  Phresch
             from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-08-17 10:52 [#00825237] Points: 9989 Status: Lurker | Followup to tunemx: #00825210 | Show recordbag
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 | why is it junk? 
 
 
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         |  nlogax
             from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-17 10:54 [#00825242] Points: 4653 Status: Regular | Followup to tunemx: #00825210
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 | face it - the mozilla era is over. :) 
 
 
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         |  tunemx
             from Budapest (Hungary) on 2003-08-17 19:39 [#00825783] Points: 2145 Status: Webmaster | Followup to nlogax: #00825242 | Show recordbag
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 | Why is it over? 
 Maybe you meant the "Netscape era"?
 
 
 
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         |  tunemx
             from Budapest (Hungary) on 2003-08-17 19:40 [#00825785] Points: 2145 Status: Webmaster | Followup to Phresch: #00825237 | Show recordbag
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 | Well I find it an annoying software, where nothing is working as expected. Don't ask me for details, I am lazy to
 install it again, and tell you why I uninstalled it after 1
 day of use.
 
 
 
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