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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-08-14 08:51 [#00821570]
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I kinda noticed how the discussions lately really haven't been around electronic music that much. We find more interest in discussing bands and boobs than the good ol' aphex and squarepusher-threads ...it's not that I don't like that, it's just something i wanted people to talk about...
maybe it's actually just me who has lost interest in discussing IDM - who knows...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-14 08:53 [#00821574]
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no, but every IDM thing/release/artist has already been discussed here i think..
whenever there's a new release coming up you see people starting to talk about it again, unfortunately that isn't very often :(
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-14 08:53 [#00821576]
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NO IDM ISN'T DYING, SORRY STEVEN.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-14 08:54 [#00821578]
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OH AND MAY THE TERM IDM BE REPLACED BY BRAINDANCE PLEASE.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-14 08:54 [#00821580]
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no, definately not
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 08:56 [#00821583]
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think about it: -afx is aping mezbow and the already tired ragga/jungle hybrid
-autechre are practically repeating their last album -squarepusher isn't coming up with anything worth listening to
-boc have disappeared while they reinvent themselves -plaid just released an album people here are disappointed by (haven't heard it myself)
-vsnares hasn't put an album out yet this month, or has he? it's not like they get talked about longer than a few days, maybe 2 or 3 weeks maximum. talk about no staying power.
-mu-ziq people are too scared to check out, not that it's REALLY worth it.. his last album was passable but not nearly his best work
-everything else isn't popular enough (yet) to get long threads about. believe me, people try to discuss things, but people don't want to participate because they either don't listen to anything outside of the usual 4 warp artists or they don't feel comfortable talking about it much for some reason.
^PERSONAL OPINION
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 08:56 [#00821584]
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Internet Dork Music
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-14 08:56 [#00821585]
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Right now, 20% of the first 100 topics on xltronic are IDM related.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-08-14 08:56 [#00821586]
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I don't like the term braindance either
if someone asks me what kind of music I like I just say "alternative electronic music". It's not as easy on the tongue than IDM or braindance but it's most suitable IMO.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 08:57 [#00821587]
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*correction: plaid's new album just LEAKED, it's not out yet. but who cares, once people download these albums 3 months in advance, if they don't absolutely love it they don't feel like they have to buy it. so "basically" it's out.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 08:57 [#00821589]
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Pretty good summary
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-08-14 08:58 [#00821590]
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the internet is retarded
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 08:58 [#00821591]
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Pretty bad summary, but your entitled to your opinion
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 08:58 [#00821593]
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I still wanna smack your avatar to next week though
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 08:59 [#00821594]
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come on, pharrell's a sweetheart, haven't you heard the snoop dogg song "beautiful" or the NERD song "run to the sun"?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 09:00 [#00821598]
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I saw him on MTV and they showed him in his brass band at high school, with a little soldier's outfit and a trumpet. That said it all for me.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-14 09:00 [#00821600]
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I really hate "beautiful".
can't remember which song is "run to the sun".
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:01 [#00821601]
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he's just a normal dude from virginia whose talent and charm brought him well-deserved fame and fortune. God bless him.
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mimi
on 2003-08-14 09:01 [#00821604]
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i for one am sick of threads about aphex, squarepusher, autechre, plaid, boc......sure, i guess this is an aphex board but it would be so much cooler to talk about the smaller guys in the scene...because we never do!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:02 [#00821606]
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lead by example, mimi. i know i try/tried to, as do a few others. TOO few.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-08-14 09:03 [#00821608]
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i think music in general is dying..
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:04 [#00821610]
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i think idm is dead the same way rock was dead a few years ago.
it goes in cycles. artists draw off each other, and when the initial period of HOLY SHIT THIS SHIT IS AWESOME wears off, the posers go home, and the good guys sit back and reevaluate.
you are seeing the product of this in rock music now with screamo and a need breed of pop-punk. It's a delayed response to typical pop music. As the original bands become played out and loose steam, rock will "die" again and the good bands will just hang around.
idm is 5 years ahead of the rock curve, so you have a rut and reinvention. Music never dies, it recycles.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 09:04 [#00821611]
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It's almost over now It's almost over now
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:05 [#00821613]
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idm, rock, etc. doesn't die, people just get tired of being fed the same crap. no one here HAS to restrict themselves to warp's biggest artists, but they choose to out of fear of wasting their time/money on something they might not like (though it's really easy to get good recommendations from people who know a lot about music and like to help people discover something they'll enjoy).
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-14 09:07 [#00821616]
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You can only talk about one thing forr so long then a new rrelease comes out and BANG!! therre we arre again. Only I neverr get albums when they firrst come out I give it a month orr two.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 09:08 [#00821618]
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I made that 'come on you slags' thread....
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-14 09:27 [#00821660]
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just browse warpmart for a start - lots of things there that are less wellknown and well worth exploring.
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mimi
on 2003-08-14 09:28 [#00821662]
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hahah maybe i should bump every thread i have started/killed on this sort of subject
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-14 09:30 [#00821665]
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You can't expect HUGE convos on arrtists that people don't know.
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mimi
on 2003-08-14 09:31 [#00821668]
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ahh, i think i am just disappointed with people then
watmm is pretty good for this sort of thing though in general..
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:32 [#00821670]
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a lot of those artists people should know.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-08-14 09:33 [#00821673]
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HAS ANYONE HEARED THE VSNARES SAMPLES!!!!!!!!111``11`
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happy now? i discussed idm :P
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-14 09:34 [#00821674]
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I have also trried to talk about morre obscurre arrtists/films etc... and the rresponce is neverr that grreat. I get pissed off that the time but I know I can't blame people.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-08-14 09:35 [#00821676]
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well i agree with everyone saying how music goes in cycles.. but you can also look at as it dying (like i think it's doing now) and later being reincarnated into something new and different.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:41 [#00821684]
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have you guys ever heard of astrobotnia or cylobotnia ? thats shits the bomb diggy
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-08-14 09:43 [#00821690]
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International DJ and composer of gay porn soundtracks, Cylob aka Chris Jeffs is a member of Rephlex’s old guard, an incredibly ....
heheh that one?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-14 09:44 [#00821692]
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the cylobotnia samples are interesting, i haven't made my mind up yet though. soundmurderer sounds better.
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soze
from Kingston (Jamaica) on 2003-08-14 13:36 [#00822197]
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I would say that 'idm' as such and under that name is dying. People that I know who were into it are now looking for more party music, be it acid, hiphop, hardcore jungle etc. It's a new phase, frankly I'm pretty happy about it. The genre may lose popularity and 'die' but the producers will not, they'll just shift around and start making other stuff. The whole breakcore scene is very 'post-idm' I think, along with a lot of people who went and got into electro and are now getting out because of teh death of electroclash. Every artistic movement is finite. Especially once it gets a name.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 17:11 [#00822553]
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i think things have to grow up and expand - id m was such a terrible term anyway - the bug etc which is brilliant wsn't idm nor was lory d -
you've got to think is idm a way of life or just a way of labelling
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-14 17:27 [#00822572]
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people need to take this time as an opportunity to listen to more than just the big'uns like afx, boc, Squarepusher, Ziq, and AE... there's always plenty coming out that doesn't get mentioned here...
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 17:29 [#00822575]
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o be honest mate i think they listen to them enough - just check record bags - people need to do s bit more exploring ...
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 17:32 [#00822581]
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sorry geez i read you wrong - yeah people need to explore a whole lot more - listen to fles on ww.boomkat.com and at warpmart cos there is some AMAZING music out there - also on label sites like warp rephlex and leaf, mille plateaux, touch and planet-mu
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-08-14 17:35 [#00822586]
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i dunno, 'idm' isnt really giving us much to talk about lately..
i think the main artists who have been discussed extensively until now are starting to slow down a bit, and though there are many impressive lesser known artists at this point, there are no real outstanding ones that excite people the same way aphex and his ilk first did, probably because the genre is entering its phase where the majority of new artists are still replicating the sound of the few innovators. it'll kick up again in a few years, dont worry.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-14 18:46 [#00822663]
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i started listening to IDM through Aphex Twin and Squarepusher of course, and now that I'm getting a tad fed up with them, I'm starting to discover different musicians like Jega, Otto Von Schirach, Kid606, Funki Porcini - I think I have to agree with BlatantEcho that all music goes thru cycles with low and high points, but when you think about it, IDM has always been fairly underground, at least here in the States. But i also agree with titsworth that it is a good idea for us to start listening to music other than the big Warp deities, because honestly, there's a lot of great stuff out there if you're willing to search. The IDM scene is still here - except now I think it's eventually going to consist mainly of the true underground musicians, the ones who toil day and night on their comps, mixing boards, sequencers or whatever just to crank out something that they hope might get the attention of their idols. And of course, they don't, because their idols are obviously too busy or really don't give a shit. The IDM scene IS here - just look around you.
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