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             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 03:28 [#00807573] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | Nine Inch Nails - Dead Souls [Promo] 
 A1 Falling (Quake Soundtrack)
 A2 Suck (Drum n Bass Mix)
 A3 Dead Souls (Ian Curtis Tribute)
 A4 Pulse (Quake Soundtrack)
 
 B1 Drive Her Down
 B2 Burn (Cleveland Sessions)
 B3 First Born (Quake Soundtrack)
 B4 Down in it (Demo Version)
 B5 Death Factory (Quake Soundtrack)
 
 found this today in my not-so-local record store and bought
 it immediately, I've never seen this in a discography
 before, but it looks the shit, does anyone know how rare
 this is? what the story behind it is? and so forth,
 
 anyone else own this?
 
 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-08-04 03:56 [#00807584] Points: 3761 Status: Addict
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 | sorry to burst your bubble...but that's a bootleg... 
 dead souls was never promo'ed. nin frontman, trent reznor,
 never got the labels to release it on any other cd other
 than the crow soundtrak, and a jap release of TDS.
 
 is this on vynal? the numbering scheme looks vynal...if sou,
 could you post some pics? a vynal bootleg is pretty cool,
 even if it IS a boot. :P
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 04:24 [#00807600] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | sorry, can't post and shots of it, don't have a scanner 
 it shows liscences by tvt, interscope, and island records,..
 it has a cat# and all the appropriate copywright
 infromation, as well as a classy pic of the band
 
 cat # DMD1971
 
 island records
 
 
 
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             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:05 [#00807644] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | P 1994 TVT/Interscope. C 1999 TVT/Interscope. The Copywright in this sound recording and artwork is owned by
 TVT/Interscope and is exclusively licenced to Island Records
 Ltd. In the UK. WARNING: All rights reserved. Unauthorised
 copying, hiring, lending, public performance and
 broadcasting prohibited.
 
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 ==== this is written on it, makes me think it's legit
 
 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-08-04 05:07 [#00807649] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | Better hope it doesn't say "copywright" cos then it would be a fake.
 
 
 
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             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:10 [#00807654] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker | Followup to xceque: #00807649
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 | nope, says copyright 
 
 
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         |  elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2003-08-04 05:13 [#00807658] Points: 18369 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | mine sais copyleft 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-08-04 05:18 [#00807667] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | Seems to be very few places listing it...  but seems official 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-08-04 05:21 [#00807673] Points: 3761 Status: Addict
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 | is it vynal? 
 there's no suck tracks as:
 
 any remix of suck
 any other version of dead souls (other than the original joy
 division track)
 
 trent would never just slap on some quake tunes, and some
 other random/not so popular tracks onto any legit promo.
 
 also, trent HATES down in it, hell i also, would hate any
 track that proves me as an otter fraud, and a theif to a
 legit/hard working Vancouver B.C. industrial act.
 
 i AM really sorry to let you know this...but you need to
 return it...i bet you the store employees won't let you for
 some bullshit reasons, other than it's fucking fake (which
 is probably illegal to sell bootlegs for profit, especially
 on the comercial consumer market!!!).
 
 sorry. :(
 
 
 
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             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:21 [#00807674] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | cheers xceque, you always are great for finding this sort of thing out :)
 
 
 
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             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:22 [#00807675] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker | Followup to nanotech: #00807673
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 | :P 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-08-04 05:24 [#00807680] Points: 3761 Status: Addict | Followup to xceque: #00807667
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 | there are MANY sites on the web that disply bootlegs...heh, even this one is unsure if this is real, ie. "haloless?"
 
 believe me, i used to bleed black blood with nin symbols on
 it...i know my nin.
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:26 [#00807686] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | oh and yes, it is vinyl 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-08-04 05:26 [#00807687] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | I found a pic of it here and it looks quite well made for a bootleg
 
 I have no idea why I'm doing this, I don't even like NIN
 that much.
 
 
 
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         |  Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-04 05:27 [#00807688] Points: 4736 Status: Lurker
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 | i didn't know the (excellent) quake tracks had titles? 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:29 [#00807690] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | promo's are really hard to keep track of though,... seeing as most of them are gibven out at concerts and such,.. and
 this has all the markings in the right places, it'd have to
 be a pretty fucking awesome con job if it were fake, as it
 has all the proper names of the quake tracks (which most
 people don't know) and it has original material on it,
 (Trent "re-singing" parts on suck, I severely doubt this is
 a fan mix)
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:30 [#00807691] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker | Followup to xceque: #00807687
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 | yer a trainspotter 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-08-04 05:33 [#00807692] Points: 3761 Status: Addict | Followup to xceque: #00807687
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 | ok, two more bits of fakness proofy goodness... 
 1. the quake soundtrack doesn't have track titles...maybe
 names made by fans, but look over a copy of quake (which,
 btw, if you put in your cd player will play the sndtrk after
 the first track).
 
 2. the pic on the back of this vynal would NEVER be put on
 any legit nin release.
 
 2a. trent doesn't put his pics on nin music (besides PHM).
 
 2b. that a pic from the perfect drug photoshoot (it has
 charlie clouser, and some other nin programmer WAY after the
 days of dead souls), which shows:
 
 2bi. first that the pic was taken YEARS after that promo
 would be released
 
 2bii. second that pic was taken from a photoshoot to promote
 TPD, not dead souls...
 
 
 
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         |  Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-04 05:35 [#00807693] Points: 4736 Status: Lurker | Followup to nanotech: #00807692
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 | first track on the quake cd is excellent noise a la smojphace, btw
 
 :P
 
 
 
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         |  xceque
             on 2003-08-04 05:38 [#00807695] Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | So if it was fake (and I'm perfectly prepared to admit that it was since I don't really care one way or the
 other) why would it be on TVT records? They release cheap &
 dodgy looking releases all the time. Look at the TVT release
 of Analogue Bubblebath 1. I'd have said that was a bootleg
 if I didn't know better.
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:42 [#00807697] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | 1. I know 
 2. understandable
 
 2a. promo's are different from proper releases like that,
 most promo's don't even have artworks, and when they do
 they're usally half arsed anyway
 
 2b. the copyright on it is 1999, perfect drug was in 1997
 
 2bi. the promo looks like it was released 1999
 
 2bii. maybe he liked the pic?
 
 it's probably is a fake, but I still agree with the track
 selection, fucking great mix if you ask me
 
 
 
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             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:43 [#00807698] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker | Followup to Netlon Sentinel: #00807693
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 | Roffle. 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-08-04 05:44 [#00807699] Points: 3761 Status: Addict | Followup to Refund: #00807697
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 | hey, i'm not trying to call you stupid, but if you like it, keep it. i'd personally be pissed to find out i just spent x
 amount of unnessary greedy $$$ on a fake release).
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 05:52 [#00807707] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | I'm not pissed off, I've got a concert bootleg of nin (solid gold hell), and I'm happy to have it because there's some
 great material on there, I don't care that some guy somwhere
 is profitting and trent isn't, he has enough money, it's the
 smaller more independant artists that I particualarly try to
 buy everything for
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-04 06:22 [#00807748] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | DJ's in the mix shows you better go to the record store and
 COP THAT SHIT! (Oh Lord)
 And to the bootleggers giving em bootlegs
 We breaking off both of ya legs, COP THAT SHIT! (Oh Lord)
 Stop burnin' CD's for ya friend and I'ma say it again,
 nucca
 COP THAT SHIT! (Oh Lord)
 'Cause this the hot shit, out on the streets
 So when you hear this CD go and COP THAT SHIT! (Oh
 Lord)
 
 lots of bootleggers slap on official label logos to fool
 consumers.. it also makes the shop owners feel like they
 won't get caught
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 06:30 [#00807772] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | I've "interweb-mailed" tvt records,... they'll give me a straight answer
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-04 06:32 [#00807777] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Refund: #00807772
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 | believe me they're not going to say it's real, for reasons already explained in this thread. no one's putting you down
 tho, lots of bootlegs look official.
 
 
 
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-04 06:35 [#00807786] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | this one's a pro job if it's a fake, 
 
 
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