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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:41 [#00806073] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
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 | Many of you disappoints me. Is it so hard to stay out of trouble?
 
 
 
 
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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:43 [#00806074] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Followup to Phobiazero: #00806073 | Show recordbag
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 | Another way to approach the problem would be to perm. ban all members on my list of troublemakers, which by now are
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:44 [#00806076] Points: 9325 Status: Regular
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 | I'd rather have you ban some old folks than shut it down for the kids... or the other way around.
 
 
 
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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:45 [#00806077] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Followup to Key_Secret: #00806076 | Show recordbag
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 | Even the old folks are messing around. 
 
 
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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:47 [#00806078] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
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 | But if the majority are voting on "Let it stay", some bans will be made.
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-08-02 19:47 [#00806079] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to Phobiazero: #00806077
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 | Is it people starting arguments or just pointless nonsense posts that annoy the most?
 
 
 
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         |  manticore
             from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 19:48 [#00806080] Points: 651 Status: Addict
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 | it is unfortunate that it has come to this, but sad as it may be, some people here could probably benefit from an
 old-fashioned (virtual) disciplinary spanking!
 
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:50 [#00806081] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | the answer is pretty simple. permanently ban everyone who votes to shut it down - because why would they want to shut
 it down but still keep posting?
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:52 [#00806083] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | or maybe a personal warning via email will have an effect 
 
 
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         |  DaWeeze
             from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-08-02 19:53 [#00806084] Points: 5213 Status: Addict | Followup to Phobiazero: #00806078
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 | Another way to approach the problem would be to perm. ban all members on my list of troublemakers, which by now are
 considerably long.
 
 Then do so. Frankly, that's what you and the crew should be
 doing.
 
 They're trolls, Phob. They get off on messing stuff up. They
 will not learn or stop doing wrong.
 
 Do away with them and let's move forward.
 
 Thanks.
 
 *Deposits 2 cents*
 
 
 
 
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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:55 [#00806085] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Followup to JivverDicker: #00806079 | Show recordbag
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 | both are annoying. 
 the general quality has fallen while the number of flamming
 posts have raised.
 
 and there are always these people who are getting involved
 in topics which are initially NOT directed to them. IGNORE
 is the keyword here.
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:55 [#00806086] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | another idea. lead by example - close more threads and make sure you explain why at the end of each thread you close.
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 19:56 [#00806087] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker
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 | I dunno man I'd miss it if you shut it but understand if you did, that's all there is to it. Take whatever from whoever's
 opinion you respect on here and go from there. I think the
 number of daft topics hasn't changed that much, the
 community has certainly grown so more chatting is going on.
 The real problem is, do you want to shut this place down
 because of the people who are trying to shut it down
 themselves?
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:57 [#00806088] Points: 27859 Status: Regular | Followup to Jarworski: #00806087
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 | good point. perhaps what you were saying about alchohol and clarity was right after all! :)
 
 
 
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         |  Inverted Whale
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-08-02 19:58 [#00806089] Points: 3301 Status: Lurker
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 | If the general level of irrelevant chit chat is getting out of hand set up a chat room and/or get rid of the point
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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:59 [#00806090] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Followup to Jarworski: #00806087 | Show recordbag
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 | im sure most of the troublemakers here does not want to shut down the mb.
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 20:00 [#00806092] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to Jarworski: #00806087
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 | eh. why would people put down time and effort to, as you put it, 'close down' a site (like this)?
 I mean some people may be offended by things, or a website
 may break the law, etc, but this is just a nice site...
 
 not saying you are wrong; just wondering what their purpose
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 20:00 [#00806093] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to Inverted Whale: #00806089
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 | what has the point system got to do with anything? 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-02 20:01 [#00806094] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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 | Am I on the list of troublemakers? I know I'm silly. 
 
 
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         |  manticore
             from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:02 [#00806095] Points: 651 Status: Addict | Followup to Inverted Whale: #00806089
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 | i find it pretty amusing that someone would post just for the sake of upping their points.  i just post whenever i
 have something relevant to say.  spamming threads are pretty
 sad.
 i do agree that a chatroom might be a way out for the
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:03 [#00806096] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phobiazero: #00806090
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 | Perhaps that was an extreme way to term it, but they're obviously detremental to the state of the board, and have
 serious influence with regards to repercussions that occur.
 I don't know how you could solve this, as anyone who is
 slightly antagonistic could possibly fit into this category,
 and if you just ban everyone who you feel is derogatory to
 other members then you could suffer a backlash. It's your
 board man, do what thou see fit.
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:03 [#00806097] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | change the status system to moderator defined, i.e., model professionsal / pushing his luck / internet clown / moaning
 minnie / whatever. that would be great!
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-08-02 20:05 [#00806098] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to Phobiazero: #00806085
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 | I think earthleakage's e-mail warning might be a good idea. It's easy to hide behind a messageboard name, it's quite
 impersonal when you get your wrists slapped by a mod and it
 makes some feel 'cool' to be rebelious infront of the
 class.
 
 It must be boring + annoying having to police the messages,
 I know I write some crap too..... but it was earthleakages
 fault.
 
 Good luck with the new site though!
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:06 [#00806099] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | ban jivverdicker for 
 1 - ignoring my slur earlier
 2 - ignoring my email i sent him 10 days ago
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:07 [#00806100] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #00806097
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 | That's a really good idea! 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:07 [#00806101] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker
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 | Although possibly difficult to carry out fairly 
 
 
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         |  manticore
             from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:09 [#00806103] Points: 651 Status: Addict | Followup to earthleakage: #00806097
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 | good suggestion: i like the mod-defined label system! at least that way we'd know what sort of quality of posts to
 expect from an overanxious member of the board.
 
 but it would be a loss to see this board go up in flames
 over silliness getting out of hand.
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-08-02 20:09 [#00806104] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to earthleakage: #00806099
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 | I read that slur and I've been weeping all evening....I've half ignored that e-mail, there's a package with your
 address on it on the table in the kitchen but I just got
 back yesterday...  Monday deffinately, honest!
 
 
 
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         |  Inverted Whale
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-08-02 20:11 [#00806105] Points: 3301 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #00806097
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 | An amusing suggestion, but I can't see how it would make the situation any better and might make it worse.
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:11 [#00806106] Points: 27859 Status: Regular | Followup to JivverDicker: #00806104
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 | haha! :) ok! i know you've been busy, j/k. thanx in advance. you're gonna be more busy    soon though... :o/
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-02 20:12 [#00806107] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #00806097
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 | I really do think thats a good idea... 
 Like, keep the addict thing etc... but for offenders, have
 "warned" and then "warned twice" and then after that its a
 ban.
 
 This way it would really keep it together. I think alot of
 people do stuff, they get scolded, and then they stop, and
 the mods forget about it, and then it might happen again
 later. This way, its kept in check, and there is no
 ambiguity.
 
 
 
 
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         |  Inverted Whale
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-08-02 20:14 [#00806108] Points: 3301 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zeus: #00806107
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 | That's fine as long as only the mods can see it. I don't really like the idea of scarlet letters for the community.
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:14 [#00806109] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zeus: #00806107
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 | 3 strikes and you're out? Like, 1 strike lasts a... month? Then is revoked if you behave? I dunno, I'm on my eighth can
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-08-02 20:15 [#00806110] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to Zeus: #00806107
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 | but what if someone is pissed out of their gourde? 
 It might work a bit actually..
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:15 [#00806111] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to Jarworski: #00806109
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 | I can't help but be reminded of that Big Brother thread Marlowe started all those months ago.
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-08-02 20:16 [#00806112] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to Jarworski: #00806111
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 | Could you vote people out!? 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:16 [#00806113] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | yeah i can imagine people hounding the mods about what they want. it was just an idea of the top of my head really.
 
 earthleakage from the psychotronic sounds
 Points: 7766 Status: Retro Obsessed Freak Intolerant Lazy
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-02 20:16 [#00806114] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Jarworski: #00806109
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 | exactly 
 (you made sense, dont worry)
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:17 [#00806115] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00806112
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 | That was vetoed :) 
 Thing is, the more stipulations you have the more people
 have to think about posting, which has it's advantages and
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-02 20:17 [#00806116] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Inverted Whale: #00806108
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 | yes... but it would avoid the huge fiascos, everytime someone gets banned.
 
 and like, everyone is like "what?!?! what did he do? why did
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:18 [#00806117] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | No no no, don't shut this place down, it would be like I lost a limb, or at least a finger. It's not that bad. Theo
 Himself has to stop being the badass on campus though. Who
 else is on the shit list?
 
 About the status thing... I dunno... some people might
 consider it a badge of honor! ''I'm so bad, I'm such a
 rebel, look at me, the James Dean of Xltronic'', etc.  It's
 a funny idea (and I'd have fun setting you all to ''walking
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-08-02 20:22 [#00806119] Points: 12102 Status: Regular
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 | Can't we just all be friends?? 
 I think we should follow our heads and our hearts and be the
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         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:23 [#00806120] Points: 3476 Status: Regular
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 | wouldn't it make more sense to ban the trouble makers, and have them lose xltronic before we ALL have to lose it?
 
 
 
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         |  manticore
             from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:24 [#00806122] Points: 651 Status: Addict | Followup to Ophecks: #00806117
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 | hehe! maybe it'd be even more insulting/punitive if there was a "star system" - ie. the michael jackson of xltronic,
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:26 [#00806123] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | not if it was explained why. perhaps a set of rules regarding ettiquitte could be sent to every member.
 
 
 
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         |  manticore
             from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:26 [#00806124] Points: 651 Status: Addict
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 | but on a serious tip, this whole trend of people insulting one another on here really has to go!  that's what hardcore
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:26 [#00806125] Points: 27859 Status: Regular | Followup to earthleakage: #00806123
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 | sorry that was a reply to zeus. 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:27 [#00806126] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | or if you don't want to do a mass mailshot, have a link at the top of the page regarding new rules so everyone gets to
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-08-02 20:32 [#00806128] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker
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 | i never want xltronic to go away... =*[ 
 
 
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         |  Skink
             from A cesspool in eden on 2003-08-02 20:42 [#00806136] Points: 7483 Status: Lurker
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 | I think this messageboard is kind of important to people who want to talk to like minded people about creative things and
 i don't think it shoud be sacraficed for a few peoples
 stupidity.
 
 Banning is the way to go imho.
 
 
 
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