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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 18:32 [#00798969] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | I've got an interview tomorrow for this job at a place that does marketing for sporting goods and housewares. sounds
 dull i know, but the flat rate starting pay is about $12 an
 hr. and i also make pay on commission. there's no
 door-to-door crap involved, so i'm betting its
 telemarketing. i'd really like to get this job so i can
 finally have some financial independence as well as support
 my wonderful girlfriend.
 
 any advice?
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-07-29 18:35 [#00798975] Points: 12102 Status: Regular
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 | try something else, telemarketing is sooo depressing... my friend did it for a bit but it's soul destroying.
 
 
 
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         |  The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-29 18:43 [#00798996] Points: 16280 Status: Lurker
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 | good luck man! 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 18:44 [#00799001] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | a shiver went down my spine as soon as I read the word "commission" - not a lot of good comes out of it.
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 18:45 [#00799003] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to The_Funkmaster: #00798996
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 | thanks funkmaster! 
 jivver: i've tried a lot, and this is the first interview
 i've obtained. as for the soul destroying, i think i've got
 protection. love shall conquer that folly. but thank your
 concern.
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 18:47 [#00799006] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | *thank you for your concern. 
 ick@ my typing
 
 well i get a base salary too. not ALL of my pay will come
 from commission. the person who called me said the flat rate
 starting pay would be 12$ hr, not including commission. and
 that would definitely be more than i'm making now.
 
 
 
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         |  aphextriplet
             from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 18:47 [#00799009] Points: 4731 Status: Lurker
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 | marketing is fucking evil. Telesales people should be shot. Media people in general deserve to die for one reason or
 another. That may seem controversial, but fuck you, youre
 wrong. Hahahahaha, who am i talking to again?
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 18:48 [#00799013] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | well, in my experience, the job can be okay when concerning commissions - the real thing you should be afraid for are
 your colleagues.
 
 most of them will seem to be LIVING for the commission, in
 other words, are back-stabbing rats.
 
 BUT! it does not have to be this way. good luck, mr.
 blender. :)
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 18:49 [#00799017] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to aphextriplet: #00799009
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 | YEH AND TEH AMEERIKA IS G4Y 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 18:52 [#00799029] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | thanks for the heads-up qrter. i keep my eye out. 
 as for you mr. aphextriplet, i'm guessing you should put out
 a sign saying "wet floor" because .....i feel
 .....someone..... would get hurt ......by slipping ......in
 the puddle...... formed by the sarcasm dripping off
 .......your lips..... boo-yah!
 
 I now hold the record for most unintelligible comeback EVER.
 
 
 
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         |  aphextriplet
             from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 18:54 [#00799036] Points: 4731 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah that was pretty weak. Thanks for trying though mate. I have nothing against people who work in the media. Its
 people who work in the media and LIKE it and WANT to who
 deserve to have acid thrown in their childrens faces.
 
 
 
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         |  aphextriplet
             from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 18:55 [#00799038] Points: 4731 Status: Lurker
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 | perhaps that was a little harsh.... nah. 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 18:55 [#00799040] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | indeed. cheers. 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 18:56 [#00799042] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | I quite liked the comeback. 
 it had a suprising slow pace, which made it more tense.
 
 yeh yeh yeh.
 
 
 
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         |  aphextriplet
             from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 18:57 [#00799046] Points: 4731 Status: Lurker
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 | qrter, youre making me laugh today. Unfortunately my gary oldman/dracula avatar has long since disappeared. We couldve
 bonded... we couldve ...
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-29 18:58 [#00799048] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to qrter: #00799013
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 | If this is true, then it means they sell things for $$$; meaning if the customers ask about something they will be
 adviced to buy whatever pays the seller the most comission.
 
 This is not a good thing - but the way it works. I had a
 friend who worked at this electronics store, and he said it
 was the most "untrue/false" period of his life...
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 18:59 [#00799050] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to aphextriplet: #00799046
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 | ah.. this is the stuff dreams are made of.. 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 19:00 [#00799056] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Key_Secret: #00799048
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 | that's what working for commission more or less comes down to, yes.
 
 it makes people behave quite nasty.
 
 HA! I have a friend who worked at an electronics store too!
 his brother also worked there and his brother used to call
 his co-workers "rats".
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 19:03 [#00799064] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | i have to work with rats? 
 *gets his gigantic mousetrap and a copy of hustler as bait*
 
 
 
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         |  DaWeeze
             from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-07-29 19:13 [#00799088] Points: 5213 Status: Addict | Followup to Oddioblender: #00798969
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 | I advise you take it...customer service and communications looks REALLY GOOD on a resume.  6 months of that and your
 chances for landing a good job you want greatly increase...
 
 Just don't stick with it TOO long...
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 20:34 [#00799222] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | good point. 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 20:35 [#00799224] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | see yourself as one of the marines from "Aliens" - drop in and get out as soon as possible.
 
 oh wait, that went all wrong, didn't it.. um..
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 20:37 [#00799226] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | no, i see what you mean. 
 my g/f did some research on it -- i'll be selling cutlery.
 CUTLERY for fuck's sake! :-D
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 20:43 [#00799232] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Oddioblender: #00799226
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 | HA HA HA 
 't is funny, yes.
 
 1: "so, what do you do?"
 2: "I sell cwumplery.."
 1: "sorry?"
 2: "I sell cutlery. cutlery."
 1: "oh."
 
 *uneasy silence*
 
 1: "so what's your favourite piece of cutlery?"
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 20:48 [#00799238] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00799232
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 | yeah, i'm going to be a loser alright. but i write and sell music so that's respectable!
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 20:49 [#00799240] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | damn you, now i want to write a song about cutlery. 
 i knew this guy who played the drums with knives... never
 heard it or saw it, but i heard of it. pretty funny.
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-29 20:59 [#00799249] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Oddioblender: #00799240
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 | Joe Gore used to play guitar with a knife while playing with PJ Harvey on her "to bring you my love"-tour.
 
 not every song, ofcourse, but still.. it's about cutlery...
 your line of work..
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-29 21:05 [#00799256] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | anyways. need to get rest before the interview tomorrow. peace to xltronic. i shall return tomorrow with an update on
 this.
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-30 14:44 [#00800881] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | i got the job! i've learned that it's not commission based sales - you make a flat rate, but get a bonus if you make
 good sales.
 
 i'll be selling knives based on appointments w/ customers.
 it's not telemarketing, not door to door. they actually
 prefer the salesmen to be more laid back - that why there's
 a flat rate of $12 earned per appointment, and they say
 appointments usually last an hour.
 
 so i don't have to be pushy.
 
 finally! i have MONEY! w00t!
 
 
 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-07-30 14:47 [#00800884] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker | Followup to Oddioblender: #00800881
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 | cool, good stuff :) 
 sample the cuttlery and sample your customers talking about
 the finer points of your stainless steel forks, that'd be
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-30 14:48 [#00800887] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | anyways, i get there, dressed nice, with my belt, slacks, button-up-shirt and tie, and everyone else there is dressed
 casually. I was sort of comforted to see that everyone
 working there was younger than i was. i get the easiest job
 app to fill out, and then they ask me a few questions like,
 "when can you start?" and "why did you apply?"
 
 my boss, Mr. Applebury, was barely older than I was. Very
 laid back, didn't seem too uptight. Anyways, we sit through
 a one-hour session where he tells all the apllicants about
 the company and what they sell, and then gives us the
 easiest questionaire on earth.
 
 and then a short interview of each applicant. and i got the
 job!
 
 i'm officially a knife salesman. i start training tomorrow.
 i'll won't be able to see my girlfriend as much, which will
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-30 14:49 [#00800889] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah, the knives I'll be selling... some of them can cut pennies effortlessly. and some cut rope and leather like
 it's nothing. powerful stuff.
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-30 14:50 [#00800892] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | what was great about it was they had an alternative rock station playing, and i was a bit nervous, but then a
 Cranberries song started playing, and it was very relaxing.
 
 
 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-07-30 14:50 [#00800893] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker | Followup to Oddioblender: #00800889
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 | is it like those sets of knifes off the ads on the perfomance channel?
 
 
 
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         |  Spacecadet
             on 2003-07-30 14:51 [#00800895] Points: 1790 Status: Lurker
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 | "watch how effortlessly this steak knife cuts thru this old leather boot"
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-30 15:02 [#00800933] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | actually, i don't know if they do much tv advertisement. they have several lines of different kinds of knives. they
 said they do most of their sales through word-of-mouth.
 
 
 
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