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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-26 23:32 [#00794942] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | Man, this NIN track rules... 
 its so angery, yet, not all RAR! *HEAVY METAL* WOOOO
 
 its just like, pure emotions
 
 
 
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         |  Dolleater
             from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-07-26 23:34 [#00794944] Points: 4819 Status: Addict
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 | I LOVE YOU KERMIE!!! 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-26 23:35 [#00794945] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | "i'm so high!" -zeus 
 
 
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         |  corticalstim
             from Canada on 2003-07-26 23:43 [#00794953] Points: 3885 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00794945
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 | me too :D 
 
 
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         |  DaWeeze
             from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-07-26 23:44 [#00794954] Points: 5213 Status: Addict
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 | Where's that piggy-piggy?! 
 
 
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         |  corrupted-girl
             on 2003-07-26 23:45 [#00794955] Points: 8469 Status: Regular
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 | you the piggy-piggy *pulls tail and watches it curl up* 
 
 
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         |  steve
             from chicago on 2003-07-27 00:11 [#00795009] Points: 1156 Status: Lurker
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 | The remix on Further Down The Spiral is also very good.
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-27 00:13 [#00795015] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00794945
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 | yes, but not tonight 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-27 00:14 [#00795018] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | piggy piggy piggy piggy pig pig 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-27 00:14 [#00795021] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | ah, i like the original better 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-27 00:15 [#00795023] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to mappatazee: #00795021
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 | me too 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-27 00:16 [#00795025] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zeus: #00795023
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 | me three 
 
 
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         |  steve
             from chicago on 2003-07-27 00:16 [#00795028] Points: 1156 Status: Lurker
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 | The original is better. Hmm, maybe that's why Reznor put it on the album?
 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-07-28 11:19 [#00796965] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00795025
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 | me four 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-28 11:26 [#00796975] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | me 5 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2003-07-28 12:14 [#00797045] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | i wish i was 17 again so that tds could compliment my angst so perfectly.
 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2003-07-28 12:15 [#00797046] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to epohs: #00797045
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 | btw: that wasn't an insult to anyone, just saying that i can't get into it like i used to cause i'm not as angry.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 12:39 [#00797092] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to epohs: #00797045
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 | 17? for me it was 14, were you a late bloomer? 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-28 12:39 [#00797094] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | love the drumming on that track. 
 nice ramshackle effect when it gets going at last.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 12:42 [#00797104] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | the drumming is amazing.. it's apparently the only song on the whole album with live drumming. trent listened to the
 song on his headphones slightly out of sync to get that
 sound. it works really well. always been one of my favorite
 songs. for some reason it blends in my mind with tori amos's
 "rabbit.. where'd you put the keys, girl?" outro to
 "cornflake girl".
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-28 12:44 [#00797112] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | it might be live... 
 but their is either programming over it, or there are
 multiple takes pasted over each other...
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 12:49 [#00797131] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | i say "live" because all the other drums on the album are sampled and spliced together, mostly from iggy pop records.
 "piggy" was recorded by trent on a drum kit (this is a
 fact).
 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2003-07-28 12:49 [#00797132] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00797092
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 | well, i believe i was 16 when it came out... i bought it quickly but, i didn't get into it immediately.
 
 so, yeah i guess i was a late bloomer.
 
 actually, i believe it came out early in '94 which would've
 made me 15 still.  but, never the less, i bought it at the
 same time i bought 36 chambers, and that album stole my
 heart for a while.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 12:50 [#00797134] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to epohs: #00797132
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 | good taste 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-28 12:51 [#00797135] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to titsworth: #00797104
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 | is that the only song that has live drumming..? 
 "march of the pigs" also sounds like it has live drumming.
 as does "eraser".
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-28 12:51 [#00797138] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | I bought TDS when I was 16 too. 
 I bought that and "Melon Collie and the infinite sadness".
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-28 12:52 [#00797140] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | i was 14 
 actuallly the first CD i ever bought
 
 (cd, not tape)
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 12:53 [#00797142] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00797135
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 | MOTP: iggy pop "lust for life" eraser: i don't know..
 closer: iggy pop "night clubbing" and tommy lee's live
 drumming (these may not have been used in the final mix but
 he did record drums for this song)
 other songs: probably a mix between sampled drums, drum
 machines, and sparse live drumming from trent himself
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-28 13:00 [#00797158] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to titsworth: #00797142
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 | heh. 
 lust for life.
 
 
 
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         |  xf
             from Australia on 2003-07-28 13:00 [#00797160] Points: 2952 Status: Lurker
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 | I LOVEDED YOU PIGGY :(((((((( 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-28 13:05 [#00797179] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Followup to titsworth: #00797142 | Show recordbag
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 | motp doesnt sample lust for life.. thats chris verena through and through..
 
 (havent you seen the video ;)
 
 i can change my mind if i were presented with a good source
 however..
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:12 [#00797208] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to pomme de terre: #00797179
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 | trent said in a whole bunch of interviews how the whole album (exaggeration, but his, not mine) samples iggy pop
 drums, it's not played. let me find one specific interview
 where he says this..
 click here
 
 he doesn't say piggy samples that iggy song, TRUE. but he
 does say that most everything is programmed. chris did sound
 design on this album, i don't know if he played any drums at
 all. remember, when he played live, as good a drummer as he
 is, during his time with nin he just played what trent
 instructed and that's all. he did it perfectly but it wasn't
 a creative venture; read a vrenna interview and he'll admit
 his role was very machine-line.
 
 one live drummer i didn't mention is stephen perkins (jane's
 addiction, PFP), he played on TDS. but it really is mostly
 sampled, as trent himself admits. it wasn't till the fragile
 he really messed around with drums.
 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:13 [#00797214] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00797208
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 | holy shit !! thanks 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:14 [#00797216] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | oops, i meant: he doesn't say MOTP samples that iggy song, TRUE.
 
 i think the studio (non-video) version sounds very spliced
 and a lot of people think it's from "lust for life", and i'd
 tend to agree with them
 
 
 
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         |  xf
             from Australia on 2003-07-28 13:18 [#00797233] Points: 2952 Status: Lurker
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 | talking about nin, i want a new release ;( 
 
 
 
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         |  xf
             from Australia on 2003-07-28 13:18 [#00797236] Points: 2952 Status: Lurker
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 | oh.. and haha, is there /ever/ going to be a tapeworm release, or is it all bullshit?
 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-28 13:19 [#00797240] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | interestink 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-28 13:20 [#00797243] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Followup to xf: #00797236 | Show recordbag
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 | tapeworm sounds like ass imo 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2003-07-28 13:21 [#00797245] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to pomme de terre: #00797243
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 | agreed 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:21 [#00797249] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to epohs: #00797245
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 | yea, maynard james keenan, trent reznor, danny lohner, what a bunch of hacks
 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:22 [#00797250] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to pomme de terre: #00797243
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 | where did you catch the samples of tapeworm ? 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:22 [#00797254] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00797249
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 | never heard of them 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-28 13:23 [#00797256] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | the secret garden 
 
 
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         |  xf
             from Australia on 2003-07-28 13:23 [#00797257] Points: 2952 Status: Lurker
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 | 'samples of tapeworm'? 
 vacant was apparently a tapeworm song - there's live APC
 bootlegs with the song being 'covered'.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:24 [#00797258] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to pomme de terre: #00797256
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 | you ARE trent ressner aren't you 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:25 [#00797261] Points: 40935 Status: Regular
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 | trent reznor 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:25 [#00797263] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to xf: #00797257
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 | its also on the deftones cd, its great !! 
 
 
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         |  theo himself
             from +- on 2003-07-28 13:26 [#00797266] Points: 3348 Status: Regular
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 | the remix w/ coil/rick rubin/dave navarro is the shiit.. I dont really remember the original.. but I do remember liking
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-28 13:26 [#00797267] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | I lahk that 'fuck you im an animal' sowng. 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-28 13:27 [#00797270] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to theo himself: #00797266
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 | coil were not involved in that remix. coil and rick rubin, what are you thinking?!?!?!? ;)
 
 actually, rick's done some work with some unexpected people,
 from slayer to to johnny cash to jay-z...
 
 
 
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