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offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 11:15 [#00794538]
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just bought this little box of fun.
Very nice sounds, havin alot of fun with it.

anyone else bought any hardware latelyme??

seems to give a new lease of life to music making too, i've
been needing to get my hands on some decent beats for a
while and my output has gone up 1000%.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-07-26 11:21 [#00794549]
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Last thing I bought was a WaveStation.
Always gives me a massive buzz to have some new gear to play
with - Am trying to save up for an Analog Systems modular
synth... with custom EMS Synthi filters! *drool*


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 11:33 [#00794555]
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top range gear is just fantasy land really for me. dunno
about youse but the high end gear seems to be available to
people who are allready signed or actual studios with money
to spend.

i do like it though that having to make do with the gear
you've got pushes you to get the best from what you've got.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-07-26 11:53 [#00794574]
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Yeah, the modular synth is still a bit of a dream for me at
the moment!
I'm a mastering engineer by day, so I can sort of justify
buying lots of music gear.


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 11:58 [#00794579]
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was looking at that new Moog Voyager in the shop,
unbeleivable, fantasy world.

and also this signed Moog Theramin, great fun, but a fortune
to buy.

must be fun sittin in a studio with all that shit around you
just waiting to be fiddled with.
whats involved in the mastering? are you deleting certain
frequencies before it goes to a master track??


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-07-26 12:08 [#00794586]
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I'd love a Moog Voyager too! I don't actually have too much
gear at the moment, just the odd module and a few analog
synths.
Mastering's just something I got into pretty recently - I'll
get sent a finished studio mix (usually on CDR these days)
and process it so it's all radio friendly, so the whole
album sits well together, and so you can get nice loud
recording levels.
Just like a fresh pair of ears really, touching up EQ...
It's quite a cool job - Gives me a lot of spare time to get
on with my own music.
The gear we use at the mastering studio is stupidly
expensive though!
I've been using a £20,000+ compressor today, hehe.. and it
looks like it was built down my local garage.


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 12:14 [#00794595]
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sounds a great job
so even no matter how good you think your tunes are theres
allways something that needs sorting out?

its weird that a tune just needs a touch of that 20 grand
compressor just to make it right. i mean is the difference
that big?



 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-07-26 12:22 [#00794601]
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Well, in all honesty, no... it's not 20x better than a
£1,000 valve compressor - It's just that every mastering
studio has to try and have the best equipment money can
buy.
It's just that mastering engineers are VERY anal about these
things!
Good mastering is actually pretty subtle on the whole - But
there's just some ultra-technical stuff that a typical
musician/producer wouldn't want to be worrying about.
The main thing for dance producers is that they need their
track, maybe done entirely digital in Logic, to sit well
next to another track, maybe done in another country using
all analogue gear...
So in dance music we'd quite often use filters to split a
track into bass, mid-range and top-end, and process them all
separately, then mix them back together - So you get this
sort of pumped up sound... And because everyone tends to use
pretty similar valve gear and pretty standard settings and
levels, everything should sit well together on a mix or on a
radio show.


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 12:34 [#00794606]
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so it must cost alot to even get to the stage of having your
tunes mastered in such a detailed way. what would it cost
for me to turn up with what i think is a finished mix of 3
or 4 tunes to be mastered for vynil production?

and i know what you mean about the anality side of things,
you can really lose yourself in tightening things up that
you lose the original tune.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-07-26 13:34 [#00794628]
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The cost would really depend on how much time/work you
wanted on it (usually charged by the hour).
We really do what is called pre-mastering when it comes to
vinyl - So our studio would do all the polishing to your
mix, and then you'd have to use a specialist vinyl pressing
place to actually get them cut... That's a whole other art
form, things like cutting needle heat and friction, and all
sorts of bazzar techincal things!
Probably around £120 for a basic master on a single... But
would really have to hear the original recordings first to
get an idea of time and things.
You can pay a LOT more if you want quite a bit of work doing
- But simple mastering can work out quite cheap.
A commercial release may easily cost a few £thousand+ to
get mastered properly.


 


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