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         |  bob
             from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-25 14:19 [#00793938] Points: 4669 Status: Lurker
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 | i fucking hate these pigeon holing genre names. why is it intellegent dance music? and fatboy slim is/was classed as
 electronica, same as chemical brothers. anyone think of a
 better pigeon hole besides braindance?
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 14:21 [#00793944] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | i just call it all electro :] 
 some is more dance
 
 other is more wack :)
 
 
 
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         |  ecnadniarb
             on 2003-07-25 14:23 [#00793947] Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | You say you hate pigeon holeing and then ask for yet another new one?
 
 I just call it electronic music if I am pushed for a genre
 name.
 
 
 
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         |  Oddioblender
             from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:23 [#00793948] Points: 9601 Status: Lurker
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 | i never really got those names either. but i hate people who refer to all electronic music as dance music.
 
 AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!
 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-07-25 14:24 [#00793951] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | pigeoholing is one of my favourite hobbies... in reality what has been come to be known as idm is really the
 experimental fringes of all electronic genres (i've made the
 comparison here before: idm is to house, techno, and dnb, as
 Lappland is to norway, finland, and sweden)... i'd say a
 better name for it all would be avant-techno, or
 experimental electonics... but really, it's more of a
 relative state of being on the musical spectrum, than it is
 a genre... when glitch techno is no longer a fringe genre
 (if this ever happens), it can no longer be considered what
 we'd call idm... as far as genres go... idm can be
 subdivided into many many proper genres... glitch-hop,
 click-house, minimal house, minimal techno, drill'n'bass,
 etc.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:27 [#00793961] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to DeadEight: #00793951
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 | madonna went glitch last year, n'sync the year before that, and hollywood has used glitch style production for years now
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-25 14:29 [#00793967] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | I just call it ''IDM'' because it's convenient and we all know what we mean when that term is thrown around.
 
 I hate it though. If I tell someone I like ''IDM'', I LOATHE
 to tell them what it actually stands for.
 
 
 
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         |  drummond
             from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-07-25 14:32 [#00793973] Points: 1021 Status: Addict
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 | fatboy slim is UDM 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-07-25 14:33 [#00793975] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | when i say glitch i mean like clicks'n'cuts (mille plateaux) stuff...
 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-07-25 14:33 [#00793977] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | i call it electronic music. but it can be misleading to people. they might think i listened to a specific electronic
 music genre which i might not be really into that much
 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-25 14:36 [#00793982] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | i like the term IDM. 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-07-25 14:40 [#00793995] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | when they hear "electronic music" they think of dance music like house/techno/d'n'b. I do enjoy some of it (expecially
 d'n'b) but my main passion is erhm "home listening
 electronic music" ...but then again some of it can be
 enjoyed in a club. you see? it's hard to fucking explain
 yourself, because IDM (don't hit me) has so much diversity
 :)
 
 
 
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         |  disasemble
             from United States on 2003-07-25 14:41 [#00794000] Points: 1448 Status: Regular
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 | "its really a tired discussion. i generally think its a bad name, but, people take it way too seriously.
 
 lets say you have "alternative rock"....whats so alternative
 about it?nothing, as far as i can tell. what makes one
 alternative? the term is really unaccurate!
 
 yet, nobody gets upset or takes that seriously. why should i
 take the term idm seriously? well, i dont. i really dont
 care.
 
 neither should anyone else. its like they only get upset
 because its their music of choice, yet hey dont complain
 about the rest of the 99% of genres that are unnaccurate
 according to the people who listen to them.
 
 people just need to chill. straight up."
 
 i posted this on another thread, but i thought people
 stopped caring about the name or whatever. figured i might
 as well post it again.
 
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:41 [#00794003] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to DeadEight: #00793975
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 | me too.. 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-07-25 14:44 [#00794010] Points: 12102 Status: Regular
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 | Do you think people don't like the name IDM as it's too literal, unlike funk, hiphop, electro, jazz, indie, folk,
 house, rock etc.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:46 [#00794015] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00794010
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 | funk, hip-hop, folk, and rock are as literal as can be, the rest are somewhat literal too when you think about it
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:46 [#00794017] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00794015
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 | except jazz which comes from jizz, and house.. i don't know the story behind that genre name
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-07-25 14:48 [#00794021] Points: 12102 Status: Regular
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 | look titsworth, don't start bullying me like you did to that poor global goon!
 
 hee hee
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:48 [#00794022] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00794021
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 | what?! you're gonna get it! beware my wrath! 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-07-25 14:50 [#00794024] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00794015
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 | they've become literal, Intelligent dance music is literal. 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 14:51 [#00794025] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | as the tears tears grow from my heart i feel the hurt inside
 as i reach reach out for you
 and im so confused!
 hold on im trapped
 like a fool im in a cage
 i cant get out
 see im trapped
 cant you see im so confused?
 i cant get out
 see im trapped
 like a fool im in a cage
 i cant get out
 see im trapped
 cant you see im so confused i cant get out
 oo oo oo oo ooooohhhhhh!
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 14:52 [#00794026] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | cant you see im so trapped and i dont know what to do 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:53 [#00794027] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | rock is named after the rocky edge of the guitar riffs, folk because of its everyday folk quality of who would write and
 perform the songs and pass them on like a joke or story,
 funk because of the funkiness of the bass among other
 elements, and hip-hop because it was at the time a very hip
 new thing with a jaunty rhythm (again at the time).. indie
 from independent (no real musical meaning, so it definitely
 gained a sound by connotation instead of denotation),
 electro associated with electronics obviously..
 
 but idm is strictly literal and a pretty dull name, no doubt
 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-25 14:55 [#00794029] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Followup to titsworth: #00794017 | Show recordbag
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 | house music came from frankie knuckes playing upbeat disco at a chicago club called the warehouse.. name shortened to
 house.. people wanted to know where to get thise house
 records.. tada.. house
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 14:55 [#00794030] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00794027
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 | that gives me an idea 
 maybe we shoud call it ghey rock
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 14:55 [#00794032] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00794030
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 | cause its like all men 
 
 
 
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         |  drummond
             from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-07-25 14:56 [#00794033] Points: 1021 Status: Addict
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 | so how did Hi-NRG get its name then, clever cloggs? 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:56 [#00794034] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to pomme de terre: #00794029
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 | ah! yea you're right. i remember reading that now when i was researching for my paper. well that's definitely not a very
 literal name.
 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-25 14:56 [#00794035] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Followup to drummond: #00794033 | Show recordbag
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 | some nerd 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-25 14:56 [#00794037] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | ''Funk'' is the best genre name, makes my soul smile. Sounds like it would stink though.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-07-25 14:57 [#00794039] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to drummond: #00794033
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 | happy hardcore is another fun one! i always think of cheesy compilation cd's with huge yellow smiley faces on the
 cover.
 
 i want to know how jungle got its name..
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 15:01 [#00794041] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | alright never mind im going to go and have my crazy arse dreamscapes now goodnight :) i love the girls who are
 friends of friends huh? man so cute.
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-25 15:02 [#00794042] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker
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 | somebody somewhere come up with a decent definition 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 15:02 [#00794044] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to Jarworski: #00794042
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 | i just did 
 remember frankie goes to hollywood?
 
 they beat us all to it by like 20 years :)
 
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 15:04 [#00794046] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00794044
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 | they deep-fry that shit in the end of relax 
 pfffffwwwaaaoooooowwww~!!!!!
 
 
 
 
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         |  drummond
             from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-07-25 15:05 [#00794047] Points: 1021 Status: Addict | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00794046
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 | hit me with your laser beam! 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 15:05 [#00794048] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to drummond: #00794047
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 | peeeaaoooww! 
 Baow Boaw Boaw
 
 
 
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         |  electro
             from detroit on 2003-07-25 15:23 [#00794066] Points: 2880 Status: Regular
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 | boobs! BOOBS! I SAY!!!!!!
 
 
 
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