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Ok - so there are almost two types of people here, people who were into AFX a long time ago, and people who werent. Why is it that the ones that were want to see him return to the glory days of back then, and the new ones say the dumbest things, like the old stuff is dated, same goes with AE, confield was absolute shit, drukqs was a load of filler shit, with half the imagination of his older works. I mean goddamn man, this is seriously just so fucking stupid right now, I think Aphex Twin has seriously lost his touch, and I for one do not enjoy him very much anymore, because his newer releases have really made me not want to get anymore, I have the old stuff and damn, thats where id like him to stay. I bet if someone under the name AFX released a bunch of crappy sped up tracks, or some tracks of just noise with some stupid IDM type name like Gertyjk302 with a couple blips here and there lots of people here would go "oh wow, this new AFX track is so lush, so cool" and then others would go "I have decifered the song! this is what it looks like", and then others would go "do you like this one noisy crappy track more than this other crappy track?".... the shit is endless. If RDJ himself came to your house, punched your mom in the face, shat in your bed and left, some of you here would probably call it a masterpiece beacause RDJ did it, but if it were anyone else, shame! |
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I like his new stuff, but yes, I much prefer his earlier stuff. I've been into his music since about 92/93. |
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a bit heavyhanded there reflex |
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I dunno, I think there are tracks on Drukqs (which for the most part I can take or leave) that are as good as anything he has ever done. I don't think he has lost his touch but I think he is turning into his own worst enemy. Because he is not releasing as regularly as he used to people are anticipating his new releases a lot more now. Had he has released a Smojphace type EP between ICBYD and RDJ I don't think people would have complained as it is interesting to see where he is at sonically...however for people who are starved of new releases Smojphace just comes across as a punch in the face. There is no denying he is a talented musician, but maybe he has just got bored with making music. It does happen. |
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its best for fans of the old afx to stop wishing for some sort of return to that style.. i highly doubt that's going to happen. there are tons of act out there right now virually undiscovered that are embellishing on that timbre that rdj lead back in the day.. |
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i liked him since 1993, i think drukqs was a massive step forward. im more a fan of the singles rather than the albums though on the hole, except for saw2 which i love. |
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i like all of richard's stuff. even mike n rich. i like the ambient stuff because it's very relaxing, soothing, and has some great melody. i also like the newer, upbeat stuff, because of its franticness. and by the way, i don't chastise anyone else for doing what music similar to what rich does. in fact, i download it if i like it enough. because not everyone can be richard d james. but a lot of those who try manage to come up with something that eventually is their own. for instance, i used to write RDJ-album style noise. And i was always chastised about it. But then again, no one i knew back then liked RDJ other than me. And people listened to it, and they didn't give a crap. So I can see where you're coming from on that point. But not every RDJ fan is like that. A lot of us are very open-minded, especially to our fellow xltronic board musicians! :-D btw, was there a specific person/incident which brought on this post? |
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timbre? What do you mean there? As far as I know, timbre is the tone quality of sound. |
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if the smojphace trks were released by someone on the board and posted on a zebox pg, i predict that it would have generated 33 replies to the post advertising the trks, 4 people d/ling the trk and sharing it on slsk, and 1 future mention of 'who are yer favorite xlt music makers'.. then it would fade away and be forgotten. |
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33 replies my arse. Maybe 3. There are very few people who check out music here these days :( |
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it was a stretch~ hehe.. just meant that there are artists building on the styles that he created and abandonned. |
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No one in particular brought it on, ive been coming here for more than 2 years almost now, so have others, but.... thats not the point at all. I guess what i mean is that, some people worship him so much it seems like no matter what he does its "cool" or "groundbreaking". Im not hoping he stops what hes doing and go back to the old skool sound, cause I know he wouldnt do that. So its ok by that end. I dunno how to explain better than my orinigal post, no.. im not angry at all, its just a messageboard so dont try that one on me. I was just thinking about this sort of thing this morning. But I think its so true for a lot of you people out here... |
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24 of them would be the artist trying to bump it with stuff like "hay gee wilickers thanks for the comment" |
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like the AFX-genre kind of thing? I sometimes emulate his old style. Enjoyable. |
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for afx or ae to go backwards would be silly and stupid... someone's got to push the bloody envelope... the fans can come around when they feel like it.... |
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That is very true :D |
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no one will listen to most of it because most of it sucks! Im so sorry to say that, but wouldnt that be the obviouls choice!? I used to listen to everyones tunes here, but after a while most of them just sound the fucking same boring shit over and over and over and over again. there isnt "no reason" as to why people dont listen to everyones music all the time. most of it isnt very creative, most of it isnt well done. If it were more people would like to hear peoples stuff, instead of ignoring such topics as "listen to my new song!". |
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They shouldn't feel pressured to 'push the envelope', they should just make music they feel like making. Even innovators don't always want to innovate. |
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deadeight: yeah, but uh..... if they infact were going backwards and it was considrered forwards youd say the same thing. |
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But how do you know whether it is good without listening to it? Lets face it so much time is spent on the board, it doesn't hurt to take 3 minutes to listen to someones music and give a little comment on it. |
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My music doesn't sound like anyone else's on the b ard. |
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I like his new stuff better, and recent/modern IDM in general. I'm a late comer to this stuff. But I enjoy the old school 'tronicas and it's grown on me more over time. This time last year, I would have said I didn't like Classics, for example, but I can't say that now. But the past is the past. Electronic music can be... pretty shallow. Newer, trendier production styles seem to dominate this genre at any given time. |
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Fuck, if only people COULD limit themselves to three minutes ! ! |
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Mine are normally about 38 seconds :D I agree that when someone posts up a 12 minute track encoded at 30kbps it is a bit annoying and pointless, but it doesn't stop me from listening. :D |
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brandance backwards: yes.. well, most people make the assumption, and yes I know people shouldnt assume, but thats the thing, most music makers here give them no choice, with repeatition of boring songs and unoriginal material. Everyones influece, more like stick up their ass is Aphex Twin or autechre. What im saying about this is, if you give people shit everyday for a long tiime, after they dont want it anymore their still gonna assume its shit. marlowe: yeah I know, but Garth Brooks doesnt sound like Nelly, but they both suck? sorry, I dont really like your tunes, but they arent bad, just not my style. I mean I dont want any hard feelings out of this, but its about time some people here really realized some things. |
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dont get me wrong, I like AFX still, I like some of your guys tunes you make, im talking about a lot of you here, but that still leaves lots of good ones too eh? I cant point fingers, cause I wont, but this is ridiculous... |
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I'm sure I'll survive, after all, the last track of mine you probably heard was last summer. |
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I'm not criticising you for not listening. I can understand why some people wouldn't like to listen to it. I don't have a problem myself. I mean the situation would be a lot better if some of the people who asked for comment on their tracks bothered to listen and comment on others instead of using the "my modem is too slow" or "I will listen to your stuff tomorrow" excuses. |
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it's pretty obvious that something like confield isn't in a backward direction... nothing like it has ever been done before... i wouldn't say it if i could compare it to something... but i can't... all i care about is the music... i'm not going to praise anything because i have an attachment to the artist... because i'm a fickle motherfucker who constantly tries to one up his musical tastes... things that i turn friends on to i start hating... |
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we cant go expecting everyine on the board to have amazing/innovative tracks every week.. i mean, most of the music makers on here are amatuers :\ |
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Erm something like confield had been done before. |
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okay lets hear it then... tell me and i'll give you an audience... |
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Hear which? |
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http://www.zebox.com/pommedeterre/ |
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non-confield confield |
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Haven't you been signed? |
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alot of the time if i find a song that is shit i wont post it does peoples in and at some point they may make the best track youve ever heard but because of put downs they give up |
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Do a search and listen to C-Sound artists from before confield was made. There have been people working with granular synthesis and soundscaping for years which is all confield was. |
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cool man, i'll get back to you on that... when i have the chance... |
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don[t be stupid - comments aren't just meant to be praise |
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i sugest one who's into the "old afx (btw, has anyone set a bench for this? i sugest dividing it into eras)" start producing the same style under their own moniker. Hopefully, they can use it for a crutch to a truely unique sonic voice stemming from the roots we all know and yern for so dearly. Also, i lots of people start this up (heh, remember one of the first slsk records releases? it sounded like a afx fan club. what about "A-Phexation?!" [STILL have that baby!]) then natural selection will take its course, the crap will die out, and a diamond will appear. |
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ha |
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yeah ha.... hahahahaahahahaahahhah I laugh. well.. obviously. |
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shit the good topics always start when i have to leave. everyone have a fun and safe weekend |
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im not saying that i can only think of one song that ive posted in that i havnt made a critisism against |
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Who cares? Listen to the stuff you like. You're not going to change the habits of any posters on the board by posting rubbish like this. |
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Do you think RDJ would beat up my dad, if I asked him to.....maybe he is going to do it for a fanboi like me......hmmmm |
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wank |
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your old get over it |
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complaints about the sun rising and falling each day. i've found that people here are honest (perhaps too self consciously self deprecating at times) about the amateur nature of their work. they're seeking feedback, most of them. they want to grow and develop, and they seek input from those who pursue similar projects. instead of insults, why not offer constructive criticism? perhaps your silence is as constructive as you can muster. some people make music, others make themselves unhappy finding fault with the world. |
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