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             on 2003-07-24 21:12 [#00792952] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | That drukqs is the best IDM album ever. 
 the fast tracks are like nothing ever made.. listen to the
 detailed beats on the tracks on disc 1, listen carefully...
 every minor detail is taken care of.. the complex beat never
 repeats itself.. the breaks are super polished... just it
 the beats you have a whole universe to explore.
 
 and the tracks on disc 2... they evolve in a very sutil yet
 drastic way.. and every track tells a story... it's like an
 animated film.
 
 thats the fast tracks.. the piano tracks are only there to
 give you a break while the next fast track starts.. just
 listening one of them carefully is exhausting... specially
 ziggomatic i can't get to the end of it in one listen
 without missing something. and if you get distracted by a
 second you miss a lot of scenes.
 
 well.. what i'm saying is that you should try to listen..
 really listen, to those amazing tracks on drukqs.
 
 
 
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         |  manticore
             from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-07-24 21:13 [#00792953] Points: 651 Status: Addict
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 | how stoned were you at the time? 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-24 21:18 [#00792954] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | CURTIS CHIP 
 EATING PASTE
 
 BEST EP
 
 OF ALL TIME
 
 
 
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         |  corticalstim
             from Canada on 2003-07-24 21:24 [#00792955] Points: 3885 Status: Regular | Followup to OK: #00792952
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 | holy shit i know exactly what you mean. of course - i was stoned when i noticed these things. :S
 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 21:25 [#00792956] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | well drukqs aint an ep 
 
 
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         |  corrupted-girl
             on 2003-07-24 21:27 [#00792957] Points: 8469 Status: Regular
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 | i love drukqs... definatly a fav 
 
 
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         |  manticore
             from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-07-24 21:32 [#00792958] Points: 651 Status: Addict
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 | drukqs is OK-ish, but while some tracks are truly outstanding, it doesn't seem to hold up well as a whole -
 it's a bit too all over the place, and given its 2CD scope,
 there's quite a lot of filler.
 
 the way the more aggressive tracks are spaced between the
 hushed, piano-driven pieces is rather annoying.  i'd much
 rather that the beat-oriented stuff was on one disc and all
 of the quiet tracks on the other.
 
 i really expected far better material after windowlicker,
 which was a top tune!  besides that, it drukqs pales in
 comparison to the songcraft of the 'richard d. james album'
 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 21:33 [#00792959] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker | Followup to manticore: #00792953
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 | ha and don't even let me get started on how much i loved gewly mermans (headphuck with headphones), gwarek2 and orban
 eq trx4.
 
 
 
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         |  corticalstim
             from Canada on 2003-07-24 21:34 [#00792961] Points: 3885 Status: Regular
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 | me and my gf listened to drukqs while we made out last weekend :) its cool to have a gf that likes aphex
 
 
 
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         |  REFLEX
             from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-24 21:35 [#00792962] Points: 8864 Status: Regular
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 | this is soley opinion here my friend(s), but drukqs was pretty lame..... yeah i said it,, there.... ya..
 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 21:38 [#00792966] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker | Followup to manticore: #00792958
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 | you haven't been paying attention... druqks is the most elaborate music ever,
 
 and the handclaps on bbydhyonchord! oh what a delight!
 
 
 
 
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         |  REFLEX
             from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-24 21:39 [#00792969] Points: 8864 Status: Regular
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 | elaborate?, intense? good? worth listening to? nO!.. crappy, boring, uninspired, no direction, filler shit, 2 Cds of pure
 rip off.. yes!
 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-24 21:39 [#00792970] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | subtle 
 
 
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         |  disasemble
             from United States on 2003-07-24 21:42 [#00792972] Points: 1448 Status: Regular
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 | gah, enough with that "you havent been paying attention" crap.
 
 it depends on the listeners perception. any person could say
 "you havent been paying attention" just to reinforce their
 own opinion on the matter, or to make people "see the
 light".
 
 countless people say the same exact thing to me about their
 special band. i take all of their opinions and toss them out
 the window.
 
 i HAVE been paying attention. and i still think its less
 than amazing.
 
 i dont care if you think drukqs is amazing, just dont say
 someone doesnt "get it" when its clearly just your opinion.
 
 
 
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         |  REFLEX
             from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-24 21:43 [#00792975] Points: 8864 Status: Regular
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 | THANK YOU! AHA! I mean Jesus Christ, the level of smarts in this room needs to jump a few.
 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-24 21:50 [#00792980] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
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 | There is definately enough stuff going on in the background to keep my attention. To me it does inspire - sucks to be
 you if you dont get it. :)
 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-24 21:50 [#00792981] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | I think drukqs is good, but, you know,
 nothing to jack off to
 or anything
 
 
 
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         |  REFLEX
             from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-24 21:51 [#00792983] Points: 8864 Status: Regular
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 | not really, inspiration is all relative, anyone could say the same about patti smiths new cd, or garth brooks, well ..
 huh too bad if you dont get it cause it inspired me to take
 up the art of sucking at making music, or it helped me
 design some crappy logo. woope!yyyyyy!!
 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 21:54 [#00792986] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker | Followup to disasemble: #00792972
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 | i don't say you don't get it.. i'm just pointting out where you should look... and i'm confident you'll find it. i'm not
 saying is something heaveanly that only some chosen poeple
 can see.
 
 when i say you haven't been paying attention it's exactly
 that YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO A FUCKING WORD
 I'VE WRITTEN. and your reply just proves it.
 
 just LISTEN.
 
 out
 
 
 
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         |  disasemble
             from United States on 2003-07-24 21:56 [#00792988] Points: 1448 Status: Regular
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 | see what i mean? 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-24 21:56 [#00792989] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to REFLEX: #00792983
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 | You act like your opinion is a fact. Get over yourself. If you dont like then go back to listening to cannibal corpse.
 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-24 21:57 [#00792990] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | It's called an opinion, and opinions don't always
 exist simultaneously for two people.
 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-24 22:01 [#00792991] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to mappatazee: #00792990
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 | I agree with your opinion. 
 
 
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         |  aquagak
             from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-07-24 22:09 [#00792995] Points: 4399 Status: Regular
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 | drukqs is the nail the hammer and the wood, you just need to hit it right
 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-24 22:19 [#00793003] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | Nah man ....you can cram a track full of detail till the cows come home but it still doesn't make it a wicked track.
 
 Half the drill tracks sound the same to me, and trust me I
 am a fucking drill n bass head to the max. I lvoe pusher's
 Go Plastic, but drukqs just doesn't do it for me at all.
 Sometimes it's coll but I'm just not really down with it.
 
 
 
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         |  Amnesiac
             from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-24 22:20 [#00793004] Points: 2084 Status: Lurker
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 | I think no album compares to Drukqs, no way no how. 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-24 22:20 [#00793005] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
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 | Go Plastic is entirely different. 
 
 
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         |  aquagak
             from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-07-24 22:21 [#00793007] Points: 4399 Status: Regular
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 | od what do you mean, is it the sound, the composition, the lack of something?
 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 22:27 [#00793008] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | well it's the work of a genius and the greatest craftsman of music.. .and this is my last say on the matter.
 
 out
 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-24 22:35 [#00793010] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | It's hard to say, mostly the sounds and the way he priograms as all single hits, liek a bar is divided ito 16 steps,
 right? He does drill (in this album anyways) a lot fo the
 time with just a different drum hit on every
 note...personally I prefer drill with spaces between hits
 and occasionally double hits or 4 hits on the step (ie speed
 rushes etc).
 
 BTW..
 Ppl shouldn't try to argue and say "but but" coz you can't
 really convince someone to liek an album if they don't liek
 it - there is no "You're not listening to it right".
 
 Also everyone's views are opinions here, there is no real
 definitive GOOD or BAD in the issue.
 
 It's all taste, innit.
 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-24 22:38 [#00793012] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | Also there isn't enough real music behind it for me, (talking about the drill tunes here)  a lot of the time it's
 just dark key hits every so often and I'm not really into
 that.
 And when he does riffs (liek in vordhosbn? from memory) they
 kind of tend to just repeat for the hwole song mostly.
 
 And I'm not really down with the piuano tracks. just kidn of
 boring ot me :/
 
 I think it all comes down to the whole ":feel" of the album
 - don't get me wrong I love his early drill stuff -
 laughable butane bob and everyday were just fucking
 brilliant. I'd love it if he did more stuff liek those.
 
 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 23:10 [#00793019] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | od the drums in druqks (drill tracks in disc 1) are made with bars divided in 32 steps at least (i'd say even more).
 with really minor (yet noticeable) shifts every now and
 then.. so it really never repeats.
 
 listen carefully.
 
 and as the other drill trakcs (in disc 2) the beat just
 eveolves as the tracks go.. with the drum sounds and rythm
 at the end being something totally different.
 
 wel bleah blah. the melodies do repeat themselves in several
 tracks but.. i think it's because they're really one track.
 one story from different angles.
 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 23:13 [#00793022] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | out 
 
 
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         |  disasemble
             from United States on 2003-07-24 23:23 [#00793032] Points: 1448 Status: Regular
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 | see what i mean? 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-24 23:23 [#00793033] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | ummm dude you can make the drums osound liek they are made on bars of 32 by just using a 2 pattern combo
 
 AND I never said they repeat. Read carefully.
 
 BUT I'm not gonna get into that argument.
 
 Listen - the point is that no matter how much you argue with
 me I'm not gonna suddenly turn around and go "Oh shit you're
 right! You argued me into likiung the album!"
 It's not gonna happen.
 
 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-24 23:31 [#00793040] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | DRUKQS SUKQS 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-24 23:51 [#00793044] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | well whatever then.... go listen autechre then. 
 OUT!
 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-25 00:01 [#00793048] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | FFS, I said I'm not hat much into the album don't have a fucking cry over it.
 
 ..Hey I could listen to some of AFX's other albums too,
 y'know, drukqs isn't the only thing he's done...you DO know
 that, right?
 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-25 00:07 [#00793051] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | [edit] 
 Meant to put a
 
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 at end of last post.
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 00:11 [#00793052] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | i not belong here :] 
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-25 00:16 [#00793054] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | whats with the stupid "out" thing.. 
 
 
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         |  OK
             on 2003-07-25 00:30 [#00793059] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00793054
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 | do you really want to know or that's just you being a jackass?
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-25 00:31 [#00793061] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to OK: #00793059
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 | out! 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-25 00:33 [#00793063] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | It's kind of annoying when you say it, but then  you come back and add another little comment and do it again.  have
 some commitment.
 shane P.
 OUT.
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 00:33 [#00793064] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | i think its well funny :D 
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 00:43 [#00793066] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker
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 | oh and drukqs has got Nothing on confield and draft heh heh HEH
 
 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-25 00:53 [#00793072] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | lol here comes teh cavalry 
 lolololol
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 00:53 [#00793073] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00793066
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 | or hi scores for that matter :D 
 
 
 
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         |  od_step_cloak
             from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-25 01:01 [#00793081] Points: 3803 Status: Regular
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 | or one word extinguisher imho (lotta ppl will disagree on that tip but I'm stayin' solid - fuckin can't get enough of
 that one!)
 
 PS Rockenjohnny - dude you into Prefuse at all? Should go to
 their show on next thurs night.
 $25 inglewood hotel
 
 
 
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         |  rockenjohnny
             from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-25 01:03 [#00793085] Points: 7983 Status: Lurker | Followup to od_step_cloak: #00793081
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 | chr fen and i are considering it :] 
 ive not heard prefuse yet.. hmm
 
 
 
 
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