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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-22 16:14 [#00790047] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | so, here`ss the thing: I am working on my master`s thesis in architecture, this
 project is a part of it, i gave this big lecture on it last
 wednesday and got the highest grade anyone`s ever got on my
 school (that sounds like i`m full of myself, but i want to
 grab your attention and hear some opinions from you folks).
 
 the project was mainly to challenge the whole idea of what`s
 private and what`s public by means of a programmatic park
 located on a realtively poor area.  This is, a hybrid park
 that in time could become a surface that could contain a
 series of Programs (institutes, schools, clinics, hospitals,
 restaurants and stores) and dialogue with other outdoor
 activities such as skateparks, wall climbing, bmx dirt
 parks, public pools, children games, jogging, etc.
 
 here are some images of it, separated in 4 groups:
 01-04  general topography of the park
 general 01-07 5 year views
 contours 1-18 that form fragment A
 fragment A 01-04
 diagrams01-02evolution + masterplan
 
 sorry if it is very sloppy, if you peepz don`t feel like
 looking at all the pics, please give me some comments on the
 ones catalogued as FRAGMENT A 01-04
 
 thanx.
 pics here
 
 
 
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         |  evolume
             from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-22 16:25 [#00790056] Points: 10965 Status: Regular
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 | if it snows, followed by rain, those overhangs are gonna have a hell of a time supporting the weight.
 
 i guess i don't really get it but i'm a genetic scientist,
 not an architect.  the pictures are cool looking though.
 
 and i think that its great that a place can be versatile
 enough to accomodate a guy on a huge unicycle.
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-22 16:25 [#00790057] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | damn...no one cares?? 
 c`mon peepz
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-22 16:26 [#00790059] Points: 543 Status: Regular | Followup to evolume: #00790056
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 | ahahahhah the overhangs, the structural plans are not included on these images, but they can support a lot of
 weight.
 
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-22 16:48 [#00790082] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | COMENTS ANYONE???? 
 any kind...
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-22 17:45 [#00790133] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | i only got two choices_ 
 a).-this thread is awfully boring and i my project is a
 waste of your time.
 
 b).-you all (except for evolume) are a bunch of
 un_interested boring bastards with no opinion.
 
 fuck it, i`m out
 
 
 
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         |  Gonzola
             from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-07-22 18:25 [#00790163] Points: 917 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | cool stuff! the ground of the public park bends, and becomes walls and
 roofs for the private sections, right? blurring the line
 between public/private? really nice, and neat pics too.
 
 is the building in general06 an earlier project?
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-22 22:31 [#00790312] Points: 543 Status: Regular | Followup to Gonzola: #00790163
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 | you got it webmaster.  that`s the whole point. i`ve been working on bending surfaces for quite a while now.  the
 building on general06 is indeed an older project, not mine
 tho, but it was useful to ilustrate how habitational
 complexes could become active on site.
 
 thanx for the comments, coming from an architect such as
 yerself.
 
 ;D
 
 
 
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         |  giginger
             from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-23 01:50 [#00790376] Points: 26335 Status: Regular | Followup to childkiller: #00790047 | Show recordbag
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 | That's some impressive work mister. I like it a lot. 
 
 
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         |  TonyFish
             from the realm of our dreams on 2003-07-23 02:35 [#00790379] Points: 3349 Status: Lurker
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 | Hey childkiller that looks really interesting. I wish I'd done architecture instead of computer science. Talking of
 which, do you have any pointers or links which might be of
 use to a computer science MSc in virtual environments
 seeking employment in an architecture related field? Thanks
 
 
 
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         |  clone
             from Johannesburg (South Africa) on 2003-07-23 03:38 [#00790404] Points: 165 Status: Regular
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 | Nice stuff... what do you think of Santiago Calatrava? 
 
 
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         |  Murray
             from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-23 03:52 [#00790415] Points: 4891 Status: Lurker
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 | I really like this stuff man. Very very clever. And really nice to look at =op
 
 Not quite the edjucated repsonse you were looking for...but
 there we go
 
 
 
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         |  giginger
             from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-23 03:59 [#00790418] Points: 26335 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | I fucking love this one. 
 I hope that you carry on with this stuff in future.
 
 
 
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         |  zetre
             from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-07-23 09:11 [#00790780] Points: 239 Status: Lurker
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 | Yeah, it seems interesting. Really nice stuff. I like the building in general 06 (even if you didn´t do
 it). What programs does it hold? Is it strictly living
 space?
 
 Is it to be seen as one big project or as a masterplan for a
 series of smaller ones?
 Would there be lots that you could buy?
 If it´s one big project would this be a project initiated
 by the city or by private investors?
 Are you blurring the line between private and public in a
 juridical sence as well or is it limited to a spacial
 blurring? (If the buildings are private the rooftops would
 probably be private too and then the owner could put up a
 giant electric fence keeping the public from walking on his
 roof top. Unless you make restrictions as to what the
 private investor is allowed (which is the reality in most
 projects). Have you made restrictions like that?)
 Are the structures an illustration of what things could
 look like or are they to be seen as a completed proposal?
 (what I´m getting at is: Would there be one architect (you)
 drawing/deciding everything or would you draw the masterplan
 (deciding what should be where, where the roads should go,
 how big the lots should be etc) and leave the details to
 others?)
 It looks really good and interesting, I´m just curious
 about the deeper layers of your plan since I´ve been
 working on similar issues myself.
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-23 11:01 [#00790962] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | thanx for all the insights peepz. 
 tonyfish_sorry, don`t know of any links.
 clone_ calatrava is an awesome architect
 
 zetre_ the idea was to be able to generate a
 multi-purpose-hybrid topography.  i came up with several
 stages of development, as well as a series of rules that
 controlled the use of the public space by this programmes.
 The blurring of the line between private and public is
 mainly spacial, but for instance, private investors could
 not use fences, only by means of bending, folding or cutting
 the surface or trees and vegetation, they could create more
 intimate spaces within a total that is completely open and
 that hold it`s park condition.  The city would finance the
 masterplan (one architect and landscape artist), then it
 would be sold in stages with specific sites for each
 possible programme, then private architects would design
 each programme paying attention to the general rules of
 development.  As the masterplan architect, i decide the
 general uses of the park, circuits, topography, vegetation,
 traffic roads that dialogue with the park, ilumination and
 the distribution of private sectors to be bought by private
 investors.
 
 i hope i answered some of your questions, if you want some
 more specific info or the written essay just e-mail me.
 
 cheers
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-23 11:04 [#00790972] Points: 543 Status: Regular | Followup to Murray: #00790415
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 | i wasn`t looking for educated respines dood, just some insights, first thing that came to mind by looking at the
 pictures.
 ;D
 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2003-07-23 11:12 [#00790986] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
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 | hi childkiller 
 the project looks great!
 
 I am also very interested in bended surfaces and hibrid
 spaces... watching the pic isnt a surprise that you got the
 best grade, congratulations, I am sure you will be a great
 architect, well really you already are.
 
 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2003-07-23 11:14 [#00790987] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker | Followup to nacmat: #00790986
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 | todo en elproyecto es atractivo, la riqueza programatica, las secciones, las vistas y el como esta insertado en el
 tejido urbano
 
 es ademas de aspecto muy sugerente
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-23 11:15 [#00790988] Points: 543 Status: Regular | Followup to nacmat: #00790986
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 | why thank you very much nacho. 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-23 11:16 [#00790989] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | gracias compadre 
 
 
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         |  MrTenzin
             from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2003-07-23 11:25 [#00790991] Points: 1184 Status: Lurker
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 | the piece really developed since i last saw it, congrats 
 theres a long flat space with a giant freeway pass through
 it in copenhagen i think wink wink
 
 
 
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         |  Murray
             from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-23 11:28 [#00790992] Points: 4891 Status: Lurker
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 | I loved the pictures, i really do. They looks so profesional. I wouldn't mind an album cover like that :)
 
 
 
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         |  xf
             from Australia on 2003-07-23 11:28 [#00790993] Points: 2952 Status: Lurker
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 | woo, not that i know anything about this, but its rather fucking cool.
 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2003-07-23 11:32 [#00790995] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
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 | childkiller necesito informacion sobre rascacielos o grandes edificios hibridos en la red
 tienes idea?
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-23 11:36 [#00790996] Points: 543 Status: Regular | Followup to MrTenzin: #00790991
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 | it did didn`t it tenzin.  last time you made me those comments i really re-worked the whole thing, so thank you
 for that.
 
 murray and xf thx for the positive opinions yo!
 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-23 11:38 [#00790998] Points: 543 Status: Regular | Followup to nacmat: #00790995
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 | nacho, you might find something here 
 
 
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-07-23 11:40 [#00791000] Points: 543 Status: Regular
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 | and here 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2003-07-23 11:43 [#00791003] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
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 | thanks a lot 
 
 
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         |  MrTenzin
             from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2003-07-23 13:44 [#00791132] Points: 1184 Status: Lurker
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 | anytime, dont mention it.  :) 
 
 
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         |  Gonzola
             from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-08-03 18:07 [#00807204] Points: 917 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | hmm, this thread is nice. i will probably post a project here this fall, when i'm in the process. it seems like a
 good idea to get opinions from people outside the studio
 once in a while(not classmates, teachers), to get a little
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         |  childkiller
             from santiago (Chile) on 2003-08-03 21:29 [#00807372] Points: 543 Status: Regular | Followup to Gonzola: #00807204
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 | it is a good place to get interesting ideas, in fact, mr tenzin pointed something out the very first time i posted my
 project, and his insights (amongst many others) helped me
 re-shape and re-think some things about the project.
 Sometimes comon sense and non-architectural opinions are the
 ones that point out the basic mistakes or misguided ideas in
 a project.
 
 e-mail me when you do so Gonzola, btw, it is nice to realize
 that more members other then nacho and me are architects.
 
 
 
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