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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-20 19:29 [#00787759]
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our assingment this week was to write a pop song in 6
hours, using csound.

6 hours straight... but we didnt do the sound design... we
used samples from the csound catalog. (presets basically).
So i had to go through and find the sounds, edit them a bit,
and render them the wav. Then I had to use a normal
sequencer to write the song (i sequnced in reason, since i
dont have a sampler for Logic yet) I then exported the
tracks and mixed it down in logic.

so yeah, 6 hours nonstop, and here are the results...

enjoy

btw, pop song, means, something with beats and melody.
something noncsound sounding (ie ambient). So yeah, this
isnt POP. yeah.

6 Hour Pop Song


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-20 19:35 [#00787763]
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thats no pop song it does'nt sound like anything i evear
heard on the teevee and i look at the teevee alot so i shoud
know

YOU FLUNK

teehee

Nice enough track, needs more harmonic movement, like a key
change or a bridge or summin. [talk about the pot calling
the kettle black, sheesh my stuff is monotonous]


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-07-20 19:40 [#00787767]
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I like it just as it is. Personally i wouldn't tweak it in
the least. As it is right now it has a good feel to it,
relexing in a way and easy enough to listen to without being
overly complex!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-20 22:24 [#00787894]
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thanks for listening :)



 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2003-07-20 23:58 [#00787945]
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hey man.. . just listening to this now.. . how come you dont
hang at tefosav anymore ? did mr nyc johny boy scare you off
? hehehe.. . we all love you man (: also.. . this track is
pretty damn cool.. . and you might like to know that I
listen to "Sullen" quite a bit. ..


 

offline Asche XL on 2003-07-21 00:26 [#00787953]
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Yeah zeus, this is a cool song, keep it up man.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2003-07-21 00:29 [#00787955]
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me gusta


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 05:01 [#00788054]
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thanks for listening guys, glad ya liked it :)

glitch: thats cool that you listen to sullen :) it seems to
be alot of peoples favorite actually... :)

and yeah, i stopped going to tefosav, awhile ago... I dont
know, it seemed like they werent too receptive to
outsiders/newbies ie me. :-\


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-21 06:17 [#00788100]
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I remember reading once that Paul Weller wrote 'Goin'
Underground' in fifteen minutes after he went out to buy a
curry for him and his missus.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:11 [#00788244]
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if only i knew who that is...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-21 09:21 [#00788248]
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main man in The Jam


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-21 09:22 [#00788250]
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paul, check my thread. it's for you


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:22 [#00788251]
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hmm

dont know The Jam either... :-\


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-21 09:24 [#00788254]
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Dear God man! Do you Americans know nothing of music? I
demand you read up on all music from the last 50 years
before you make another track.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:25 [#00788255]
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:-P


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-21 09:25 [#00788257]
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:O


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:25 [#00788258]
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:-D


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-21 09:26 [#00788259]
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The Jam were one of the most important post-punk bands of
the late 70s and early 80s. Unfortunately, Paul Weller went
on to head The Style Council and further made a comeback as
some Indie Kid type person who wrote extremely dull songs !


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-21 09:28 [#00788264]
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Spam!

Seriously though. The Jam are possibly on of the most
important bands of their era. I know they're english so
that's possibly an excuse to have not heard of them but
you've probably heard their music. They were pretty
influential. Paul Weller is still about but not doing
anything anywhere near as good as the Jam days. Have an
internet search and you'll find some good info on them.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-21 09:29 [#00788265]
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Damn, Marlowe beat me and said it better.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-21 09:30 [#00788267]
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Zeus, you might have heard the Jam track 'That's
Entertainment'.... I think it was used in a film recently,
or something.


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-07-21 09:31 [#00788271]
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what kind of program are you in? this type of stuff sounds
really interesting - what school are you taking it at also?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:40 [#00788281]
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i go to the berklee college of music, in boston

im doing a duel major in synthesis and composition :)

oh, and apparently my teacher is looking into doing like, 2
week summer courses, in the future. Like a 2 week csound
"camp" kind of... if anyone is interested, I can keep you
posted


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-07-21 09:42 [#00788282]
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wow - that would truly be what im interested in - what kind
of prerequisites or background knowledge do you require?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:51 [#00788290]
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well, at least 2 years of formal training on an instrument
is pretty much mandatory.

You have to declare an instrument of study, and you will
take private lessons, labs, and ensembles... (My principle
instrument is Bass, and thank god I finished my
requirments... performing isnt really my thing)

But, yeah, you dont really need any music theory before
coming, but if you have it, it will help getting you in (ive
known people who didnt know anything about music theory, and
couldnt even read music... but they where just phenomonal on
their instruments... so it makes up for it, and they will
learn it while they are here.)

If you want more info, www.berklee.edu has all the info you
need.

:)


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-07-21 09:52 [#00788292]
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thank you very much sir :)


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:54 [#00788297]
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oh, and teacher reccomendations are very helpful

Here is the application info

you can dl the application, and take a look at the questions
it asks... for more of a perspective on what they are
looking for


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 09:55 [#00788300]
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I just looked at your birthdate, you are 15.

My advice, if you are really serious about going to a music
college... is start now. Take instrument lessons, and take
theory lessons. The more the better!


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-21 10:10 [#00788331]
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Nice track you made there zeus. Still a bit boring though,
you should add some more melodies.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 10:11 [#00788332]
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yeah, there is several things about it id like to change...

perhaps I will after I turn it in :)


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-21 10:19 [#00788352]
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My advice is to not go to a music college at all. I
seriously doubt the fact that these colleges actually make
you a better musician, especially when you make electronic
music.
I've been through those theory lessons for the last 2 years
and I can tell you, it's useless if you make electronic
music.
I've been playing guitar for almost 11 years now (since I
was 5 or 6 years old) and I always wanted to go to a music
college. I even went to a school where I would get more
music lessons. But the closer I'm getting to actually have
the ability to go to such a college, the more I'm realising
that talent can not be teached.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 10:21 [#00788359]
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no, talent cannot be teached

but it can be nourished.

I dont want to get into this debate again, but basically,
saying that music school is BS, is just as ignorant, and
close minded, as saying, people who dont go to music school
arnt musicians.

Why does everything have to be so black and white?



 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-21 10:29 [#00788375]
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nonono, I don't think I made my point clear.
What I'm trying to say is: Continue making music as much as
you can, but don't go to a college for it. You see, it's
hard to make money with music. You need to have reserves.
What if people don't like your music? What will you do then?
You won't have a certificate for another job. That's why
I've chosen to study multimedia instead of music. That means
I can try to become a succesfull musician but if that
doesn't work I can still become a graphic designer or a
sound engineer.


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-07-21 10:30 [#00788377]
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yeah - i have been wanting to learn an instrument for so
long - ive never really had the drive to get at it - and
never really found an instrument i could see myself being
good at :S


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-07-21 10:30 [#00788378]
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not to be funny or anything, but u can tell it was rushed,
tho it's cool for a six hour track, i got a minidisk full of
3-6 hour tracks and there all shit so i can't talk really


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 10:31 [#00788379]
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ah

well, there is more options then just composing.

I could also teach (i plan on going to grad school), I could
do sound design for movies, I could become a software
programmer, for like native instruments or something...
there really is alot you can do out there...


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-21 10:33 [#00788383]
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so it's not purely based on becoming a musician?
That's a good thing then. That's pretty much what I'm gonna
do too.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 10:44 [#00788400]
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well, it depends where you go

a strictly classical school... isnt going to help you get
lots of jobs...

but if you go to a more modern school, there is much more
oppertunities. Thats why I like berklee... it has the
composition side of things, and also the technological
side... personally I think as far as jobs, synthesis is
whats gonna be my field...



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-21 16:50 [#00788719]
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Again, I like the rich sound produced by csound. It was
quite a mellow nice track. There was one part, it was like
two wannabe violentish bursts in a row that subtracted
rather than added to the whole IMO. You probably know which
part I mean. It would be better without that part (it
happens about 4 or more times).


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-21 17:00 [#00788734]
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hmmm... im actually not sure what you mean... what times in
the track does it happen?


 


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