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offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-12 11:22 [#00775602]
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The follow up to Trainspotting.

just finished readin an what a crackin read.

funny as fuck.

recommended for all

be good to see if they manage the film.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-07-12 11:23 [#00775603]
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it's a verry funny book i agrree


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-07-12 20:48 [#00776370]
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damn!
i was just thinking about going and getting this book two
days ago!


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-07-12 22:43 [#00776461]
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holy SMOKES!!!

never heard of the book until today, i was looking at my
BF's list of books to read and that was in it. it provoked a
question about how he heard about it, and what it was
about........

he said someone from Mogwai went on and on about how great
it was.....i looked it up and found out what it was a sequel
of sorts to trainspotting (which i didn't read but did see
the movie) and thought i might give it a read.

damn phiz you're on same strange wavey length wit peepz
today! ahhahah

good to see all the positive reviews =0)


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-07-13 00:33 [#00776514]
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yeah it was good, I read it twice. Classic ending also.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-13 06:12 [#00776642]
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Hey peeps, do a search for it guys, there's loads of topics.
Great book, probably his third best.


 

offline damion from Auckland (New Zealand) on 2003-07-13 22:49 [#00777813]
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Great book, i have my doubts about the movie working though.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-07-13 23:13 [#00777840]
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thanks for the heads up Jar.....i just heard things about
this book a few days ago.....so i prolly missed the earlier
threads.

i'll SEARCH! =0)


 

offline andreas from an der Saar (Germany) on 2003-07-14 03:23 [#00777959]
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are there any translations out yet? my english skills are
too poor to read it in the english language ;-)

.a


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-07-14 03:29 [#00777962]
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don't worrrry being english does not make it any easierr.
but it ain't as bad a Trainspotting on that frront.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 03:38 [#00777969]
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Glue is better than Porno. And I can't imagine a foreign
translation of this book, it would be a complete mindfuck.


 

offline andreas from an der Saar (Germany) on 2003-07-14 03:47 [#00777974]
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yes. translations are always difficult. especially the works
of irvine welsh. but i read filth recently and it works.
very explicit... ;-)

.a


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 04:35 [#00778004]
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i was gonna get Glue but i saw that and got it instead, Glue
will be next i think.

i heard that Jonny Lee Miller is the only one to turn down a
part in the film, and sickboy is the main carachter of sorts
so, idunno, maybe hes holdin out for more cash.

its a struggle readin as if you are Begbie or Spud though,
and you seem to picture the charachters more as you read
this one.

also reading at the moment:
Willem Reich - The Fuction of the Orgasm
David Ike - The Biggest Secret

nice n light.



 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-07-14 04:41 [#00778007]
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i just watched trainspotting last night and it really worked
for me - maybe i should pick up this book - i havent read
anything for awhile

damn - i NEED to read more often.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 04:45 [#00778010]
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I dunno why Lee Miller would turn it down, he hasn't exactly
set the world on fire since has he? :D

The main sticking point was obviously that McGregor and
Danny Boyle stopped talking after Boyle cast Di Caprio in
The Beach - one possible reason why Renton isn't in the book
that much, if the film was made and relations were strained,
he would only have to do a week or so on set. But apparently
they made up this year. Robert Carlyle is all for it. The
main problem is still McGregor, he doesn't think the book is
as good as it could've been and so doesn't want to film it.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:27 [#00789216]
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Fucking great book. I hope the film does work. Although I
can't see some elements working, if you know what I mean?!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 06:31 [#00789219]
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No way! I thought Glue was really mediocre. He didn't really
create and great characters and I got confused about who was
who after a while. Porno is defo where its at. IMHO of
course.


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:31 [#00789221]
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yeh, the bit with Spud and the other fella when they take
that girl round the back of the pub would be a bit much i
think.

giginger, no breakages???


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:42 [#00789229]
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Hahaha, that ruptured penis scene nearly made me puke the
first time I read it!

Jonesy: I know a lot of people felt the same way. All of
Welsh's books aside from Trainspotting have been heavily
criticised in the media. Glue's not without it's faults - it
can be slow, characters drift out of the story for no reason
and the final third with the introduction of the popstar is
a tad wonky - but it's still, imo, his second greatest book.
I mean, it gave the world Juice Terry!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 06:54 [#00789241]
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Yeah, Juice Terry was a good character but the book suffered
from too many cliches; especially regards clubbing etc.

Did you not rate Filth more highly? I think Trainspotting,
Filth and Porno are his greatest; the holy trinity if you
will.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:59 [#00789248]
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I did rate Filth very highly when I first read it - over
Trainspotting in fact - but once I re-read all the books
Glue was much stronger I thought. Filth is a brilliantly
angry book but it took it's inspiration from too many books
I'd already read. At the end of the day all his books are
marred by some inept writing at some point, it's the really
good bits you end up remembering.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 07:01 [#00789249]
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Have you read any Niall Griffiths?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:02 [#00789252]
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Nope, never heard of him. Any cop?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 07:10 [#00789262]
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Yeah, definitely. He sets his stuff in Aberystwyth mostly.
But its not inward-looking Welsh crap. He's like a more
lyrical, poetic Welsh. 'Grits' (his first) is good but
Sheepshagger blew me away. His books since are called Kelly
& Victor (set in Liverpool) and he has a new one out called
Stump.



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-22 07:12 [#00789264]
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Interesting Fact

Porn comes from the Greek for Prostitute. So I guess
Pornographic means Pictures of Prostitutes, or some such.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:19 [#00789270]
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Sounds interesting, I have to buy some books this weekend so
I'll pick one up, ta.

Paul: Well... wowzers!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-22 07:22 [#00789274]
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that's the most sarcastic use of the letter Z I've EVER
encountered !


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:25 [#00789280]
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Keep up the "interesting facts" and it may yet be beaten!
:D



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-07-22 07:26 [#00789281]
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:( Thou hurteth me greatly !


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:29 [#00789283]
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Sorry mate :P


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:43 [#00789299]
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don't know yet mate! I'll let you know as soon as I know :D


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 06:56 [#00798012]
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Went to Waterstones, got Sheepshagger and Stump. Sound up my
alley judging from the synopsis on the back. I've had a peek
at Sheepshagger and well, it looks like Irvine Welsh
doing... Welsh. Hope it can carry it off. Gonna be strange
reading this as I wrote a short story in pretty much the
same style - only "Swansified" - after I read Trainspotting.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-07-29 07:21 [#00798055]
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i bet it was good.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 07:23 [#00798061]
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Nope, it was fucking awful.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-29 07:31 [#00798088]
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Let me know what Stump is like. I don't think Sheepshagger
will disappoint mate. If it does then next time you come to
Cardiff hunt me down and demand a refund.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 07:32 [#00798092]
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I'll let you know. And if I like this bunch you can
recommend me some more.

If I don't I'll demand your kidneys, never mind a refund.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-11 04:52 [#00817140]
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I finished Sheepshagger last week - I'm on Stump now, which
seems far more like a typical Welsh book.

I enjoyed SS quite a bit, if you can enjoy a book with
horrendous passages like it contained. The sheer length of
his poetic descriptive passages was sometimes too much (as
was the temptation to skip them) but it was powerful stuff.
It's worth reading for the rave scene - which rang very true
to me - and the final chapters which literally blew my head
off. Arf.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-08-11 05:12 [#00817153]
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So I can keep my kidneys?

I see what you mean about the descriptive tracts. Usually I
recoil from such lengthy descriptions but I found that was
what I liked about it. He managed to work it with the west
Wales vernacular really well IMHO.

Let me know what Stump is like.


 


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