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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-12 11:22 [#00775602]
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The follow up to Trainspotting.
just finished readin an what a crackin read.
funny as fuck.
recommended for all
be good to see if they manage the film.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-12 11:23 [#00775603]
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it's a verry funny book i agrree
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electro
from detroit on 2003-07-12 20:48 [#00776370]
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damn! i was just thinking about going and getting this book two days ago!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-07-12 22:43 [#00776461]
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holy SMOKES!!!
never heard of the book until today, i was looking at my BF's list of books to read and that was in it. it provoked a question about how he heard about it, and what it was about........
he said someone from Mogwai went on and on about how great it was.....i looked it up and found out what it was a sequel of sorts to trainspotting (which i didn't read but did see the movie) and thought i might give it a read.
damn phiz you're on same strange wavey length wit peepz today! ahhahah
good to see all the positive reviews =0)
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-07-13 00:33 [#00776514]
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yeah it was good, I read it twice. Classic ending also.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-13 06:12 [#00776642]
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Hey peeps, do a search for it guys, there's loads of topics. Great book, probably his third best.
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damion
from Auckland (New Zealand) on 2003-07-13 22:49 [#00777813]
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Great book, i have my doubts about the movie working though.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-07-13 23:13 [#00777840]
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thanks for the heads up Jar.....i just heard things about this book a few days ago.....so i prolly missed the earlier threads.
i'll SEARCH! =0)
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andreas
from an der Saar (Germany) on 2003-07-14 03:23 [#00777959]
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are there any translations out yet? my english skills are too poor to read it in the english language ;-)
.a
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-14 03:29 [#00777962]
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don't worrrry being english does not make it any easierr. but it ain't as bad a Trainspotting on that frront.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 03:38 [#00777969]
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Glue is better than Porno. And I can't imagine a foreign translation of this book, it would be a complete mindfuck.
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andreas
from an der Saar (Germany) on 2003-07-14 03:47 [#00777974]
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yes. translations are always difficult. especially the works of irvine welsh. but i read filth recently and it works. very explicit... ;-)
.a
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 04:35 [#00778004]
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i was gonna get Glue but i saw that and got it instead, Glue will be next i think.
i heard that Jonny Lee Miller is the only one to turn down a part in the film, and sickboy is the main carachter of sorts so, idunno, maybe hes holdin out for more cash.
its a struggle readin as if you are Begbie or Spud though, and you seem to picture the charachters more as you read this one.
also reading at the moment: Willem Reich - The Fuction of the Orgasm David Ike - The Biggest Secret
nice n light.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-07-14 04:41 [#00778007]
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i just watched trainspotting last night and it really worked for me - maybe i should pick up this book - i havent read anything for awhile
damn - i NEED to read more often.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-14 04:45 [#00778010]
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I dunno why Lee Miller would turn it down, he hasn't exactly set the world on fire since has he? :D
The main sticking point was obviously that McGregor and Danny Boyle stopped talking after Boyle cast Di Caprio in The Beach - one possible reason why Renton isn't in the book that much, if the film was made and relations were strained, he would only have to do a week or so on set. But apparently they made up this year. Robert Carlyle is all for it. The main problem is still McGregor, he doesn't think the book is as good as it could've been and so doesn't want to film it.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:27 [#00789216]
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Fucking great book. I hope the film does work. Although I can't see some elements working, if you know what I mean?!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 06:31 [#00789219]
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No way! I thought Glue was really mediocre. He didn't really create and great characters and I got confused about who was who after a while. Porno is defo where its at. IMHO of course.
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:31 [#00789221]
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yeh, the bit with Spud and the other fella when they take that girl round the back of the pub would be a bit much i think.
giginger, no breakages???
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:42 [#00789229]
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Hahaha, that ruptured penis scene nearly made me puke the first time I read it!
Jonesy: I know a lot of people felt the same way. All of Welsh's books aside from Trainspotting have been heavily criticised in the media. Glue's not without it's faults - it can be slow, characters drift out of the story for no reason and the final third with the introduction of the popstar is a tad wonky - but it's still, imo, his second greatest book. I mean, it gave the world Juice Terry!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 06:54 [#00789241]
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Yeah, Juice Terry was a good character but the book suffered from too many cliches; especially regards clubbing etc.
Did you not rate Filth more highly? I think Trainspotting, Filth and Porno are his greatest; the holy trinity if you will.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 06:59 [#00789248]
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I did rate Filth very highly when I first read it - over Trainspotting in fact - but once I re-read all the books Glue was much stronger I thought. Filth is a brilliantly angry book but it took it's inspiration from too many books I'd already read. At the end of the day all his books are marred by some inept writing at some point, it's the really good bits you end up remembering.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 07:01 [#00789249]
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Have you read any Niall Griffiths?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:02 [#00789252]
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Nope, never heard of him. Any cop?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-22 07:10 [#00789262]
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Yeah, definitely. He sets his stuff in Aberystwyth mostly. But its not inward-looking Welsh crap. He's like a more lyrical, poetic Welsh. 'Grits' (his first) is good but Sheepshagger blew me away. His books since are called Kelly & Victor (set in Liverpool) and he has a new one out called Stump.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-22 07:12 [#00789264]
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Interesting Fact
Porn comes from the Greek for Prostitute. So I guess Pornographic means Pictures of Prostitutes, or some such.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:19 [#00789270]
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Sounds interesting, I have to buy some books this weekend so I'll pick one up, ta.
Paul: Well... wowzers!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-22 07:22 [#00789274]
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that's the most sarcastic use of the letter Z I've EVER encountered !
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:25 [#00789280]
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Keep up the "interesting facts" and it may yet be beaten! :D
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-07-22 07:26 [#00789281]
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:( Thou hurteth me greatly !
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:29 [#00789283]
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Sorry mate :P
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-22 07:43 [#00789299]
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don't know yet mate! I'll let you know as soon as I know :D
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 06:56 [#00798012]
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Went to Waterstones, got Sheepshagger and Stump. Sound up my alley judging from the synopsis on the back. I've had a peek at Sheepshagger and well, it looks like Irvine Welsh doing... Welsh. Hope it can carry it off. Gonna be strange reading this as I wrote a short story in pretty much the same style - only "Swansified" - after I read Trainspotting.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-07-29 07:21 [#00798055]
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i bet it was good.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 07:23 [#00798061]
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Nope, it was fucking awful.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-07-29 07:31 [#00798088]
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Let me know what Stump is like. I don't think Sheepshagger will disappoint mate. If it does then next time you come to Cardiff hunt me down and demand a refund.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-29 07:32 [#00798092]
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I'll let you know. And if I like this bunch you can recommend me some more.
If I don't I'll demand your kidneys, never mind a refund.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-11 04:52 [#00817140]
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I finished Sheepshagger last week - I'm on Stump now, which seems far more like a typical Welsh book.
I enjoyed SS quite a bit, if you can enjoy a book with horrendous passages like it contained. The sheer length of his poetic descriptive passages was sometimes too much (as was the temptation to skip them) but it was powerful stuff. It's worth reading for the rave scene - which rang very true to me - and the final chapters which literally blew my head off. Arf.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-08-11 05:12 [#00817153]
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So I can keep my kidneys?
I see what you mean about the descriptive tracts. Usually I recoil from such lengthy descriptions but I found that was what I liked about it. He managed to work it with the west Wales vernacular really well IMHO.
Let me know what Stump is like.
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