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how can anyone make money out of such a bunch of crap noise... "here is my new album...i recorded it by electrocuting a microphone with 10.000 volts...and that's it" .... Give me some arguments why the fuck Merzbow can sell... |
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although i hate afx's kpta's i like merzbows stuff, it's not 'all the same noise' really, if you take an effort to listen at it that is as a matter of fact i listened a merzbow cd throughout last evening and it didn't annoy me at one point, instead it had quite a calming effect on me, seriously i like his stuff |
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Again ? Take a look at , maybe. |
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i don't know what thay arre like neverr everr hearrd them, everr? neverr. |
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its all about getting used to the noise. what the hell, the first time i heard afx and stuff, it sounded kind of noisy to me. |
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check Merzbow's track "Punks Not Dead Kennedys" ....what the fuck? ...i mean...there aren't anything in this track? ...should there be samples...i don't hear them |
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the frogs one is good - recordingas of frogs - pretty intense . |
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i have some merzbow but i never listen to it. i find it kinda interesting but not very pleasant or impressive. it's obvious that it doesn't take much effort to produce, just look at how prolific this guy is. |
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it's a pun on the phrase punks not dead and a statement that punk is also not opitomised by the band the dead kennedys . i've never heard the track but it's probably fierce iimagine |
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he's prolific cos it's his work and he enjoys making it I think - also i read he made it an aim to work under an ethic where he works hard - also he probably makes fuck all and sells fuck all |
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"schreeeeeeeegghugggburrrrsshhhhhhheeeeeeeeeekkkkggghghghcg i've heard it. it has this neat part that goes hchgchhhgugunk!" |
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yep |
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i'm surre he just rreally enjoys it. |
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exactly |
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Have you ever heard this Aphex Twin guy ? What the fuck is that, it's not music ! Just some random beats over some tuneless melodies ! How anybody could possibly enjoy this is beyond me.. |
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i don't get all these discussions about how it is made, how quickly/easy it's made or if samples are used etc. as long as some people like to listen to it it's ok imo. after all that's the most important right? enjoying to listen to it and how about some ambient (e.g. SAWII) tracks, some are repetetive as fuck and rarely have a real melody, it's just this room-filling sound that does it, imo it's the same with noise only noise is on the other end of the music-genre list than ambient i don't know if anyone understands what i mean |
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so Morton what should i get of his? |
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yeah me too i think he's the devil but then agasin - i'm from the 1800's i came hear in a time machine just over a month ago |
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Merzbow live was one of the most intense acts i've scene. microphone-thrown-in-a-generator-thats-on-fire-in-a-blender And the fact that the person behind all of the ear bleeding -thats-also-on-fire noise was this quiet, retained, stern faced man with specs just added a certain level of eeriness. At one point in the show (ATPLA2002), he actually had to lean back and tell the sound guys to turn it down. It was fucking intense. But i loved it. And about the whole "prolific" argument...Hey, venetian releases a whole lot of shit too, that doesn't make it "Easy". |
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Morton, you're exactly right. A lot of noise is just like dark ambient, just increased in volume by about 1000%. And the way he sells records is by making music that people like. That's how. Because it doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it is without merit. |
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Merzbow CDs to get - 1930, often recommended, but worth it for the title track alone. If you want to shell out a bit more cash, my favourite of his newer stuff (which is more electronic and loop based) is the 4CD box 24 Hours: A Day Of Seals. |
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frogs the one i mentioned earlier too - music for bondage performances as well |
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true, if you like it, more power to you. but i think the question here is why do people like it? what is there to like specifically about merzbow's noise as opposed to say the noise coming out of my t.v. when the cable is out? |
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Ambient and noise aren't on opposite ends of the spectrum. Push through dark ambient and you end up on the shores of noise. |
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oh i'm not saying you should get anything of his, and i haven't heard most of his stuff by far (since he released over 200 albums), but 'a taste of merzbow' might be something to check out or his collaboration with russel hasswel on warp 'satanstornade', it's a bit different though, i own 'collapse 12 floors' too, i like it, it's somewhat softer/lower noise. but i read it's limited (to 621 copies (?!)) so when you take 'a taste of merzbow' you can decide wether you swallow it or spit it out ;) |
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Noise has structure, noisey doesn't. |
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that's true, and in fact that's what i meant :) |
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ahh wicked - proper discussion not like last night - what do yuo consider noise - i feel pretty fucked off that everything i do is soundtracked by some mulitbillion dollar shite spewing muzak company - every single time i leave the house to get some milk or a pair of shoes or whatever i get some new crap opop tune in my head. you can't get rid of the sound of your tv unplugged it's a static sound - it's not been created to have human drama, ruptures and aggression or be all consuming or transcendental ort just brutally attacjking like alot of "noise" music |
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ø¤º°°º¤ø¤ thanks Morton ¤ø¤º°°º¤ø (cool huh?) |
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pretty cool yes |
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I stole it |
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when you saw him live, was he playing recognizable cuts? what was it about the performance that made it so intense? Just the volume? Do people dance at his shows? no way is v-snares even close to being as prolific as merzbow. doesn't merzbow have a 100 cd box set or something? |
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well his 'merzbox' release contains 50 cd's yes among other stuff, a book, t-shirt and so on |
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he's been doing it for about 20 years tho |
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There were also three CDrs in the Merzbox, I think. I'd LOVE to get hold of it, but will never ever have the money. |
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Well, how about this, Recommend to me a Merzbow album. Don't just give me the title of the album. tell me why it's a good album. what should i look for when listening to it? what makes this particular album stand out from the rest of his albums? What makes this particular album stand out from other noise artists? i'll try to locate and listen to the album. I am genuinely curious what Merzbow fans enjoy about this noise. Like i said, i own probably 2 or 3 merzbow albums to which i have listened once or twice and they have since sat collecting dust on my cd rack. Maybe i bought "dud" releases? |
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cool a t-shirt? what's on it? abstract art i would expect. or naked chicks. |
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heres a remix album - there are a selection on this site too - the frogs one you might like http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?merchID=10541 |
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that's cool but i meant more like raw merzbow. not remixes. i'll check it out anyway though. |
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Can't really do that because I'm bad at describing music, so it would be hard for me to put into words why I like it. |
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t-shirt has artwork yes, haven't seen it though, just read it on that link to ebay you can see what's in this merzbox i just read the merzbook was banned in china :) The MERZbook has created a stir before it even hit the presses! In an amazing turn of events, the MERZbook was prohibited from being printed in China as a result of officials from the New China News Agency viewing some of the more confronting photographs and artwork. "It's really just a question of what we call art," said a stunned Roger Richards, Director of Australian music label Extreme. The MERZbook features a biography of Japanese Noise musician Masami Akita, a.k.a. Merzbow. Akita is notorious not only for his music but his interest in bondage and fetish culture, having published more than a dozen books on these topics. It seems only natural that the book should feature bondage pictures in 'Kinky Ikebana' the chapter dealing with the subject. But, it seems that officials just aren't ready for Akita's broad-minded view of the world. Bondage is a highly developed art form in Japan, becoming an esthetically disciplined and technically sophisticated over centuries of practice. This sensibility has not carried over to China. The MERZbook is part of the MERZBOX, a strictly limited edition release by Extreme. It commemorates the prodigious talent of MERZBOW with 50 CDs and CD-ROM, the aforementioned book together with a deluxe poster, stickers, postcards, t-shirt and medallion, encased in a custom designed Fetish-rubber box. The Chinese censorship clampdown has meant that the MERZbook must now be printed elsewhere to ensure that content is not compromised. Readers can now be assured of a publication intact as the publishers and subject intended. |
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i understand. its kinda funny because, it's always easier for me to say why i don't like music than to say why i like it. maybe it's just one of those 'can't account for taste' kind of things. |
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wow, interesting. in the context of bondage and fetishism, his noise tends to make more sense to me. bondage is like sex without the emphasis on the actuall sex part. Merzbow noise is like sound without the music part. or something? am i close? |
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like music process without the actuall music? or someshit? toss me a bone here. |
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it's in a musuem in paris too :) he Museum of Modern Art (MOMA) in Paris has proudly played host to the ground-breaking "Migrateurs" exhibition by controversial Japanese artist, performer, composer and author Masami Akita, a.k.a. Merzbow. This starling exhibition incorporated an installation of the MERZBOX, a monumental multi-media project celebrating the history, music and artwork of Merzbow. maybe i post too much, then tell me |
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uh huh.. |
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i don't know man, haha i just find this dude and what he does interesting (btw he graduated at the Art department of the Tamagawa University and majored in Painting and Art Theory) and i just enjoy listening to his stuff at certain times |
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Get 24 Hours: A Day Of Seals. It's intense, but it doesn't seem atall random, it's structured. But most of all, it's intense... Sleeping White Whale is fucking fantastic. It really sucks you in. To be honest, I find some of his work *is* crap. It seems very uninspired, and doesn't do anything for me atall. However, some of it, like A Day Of Seals, really captures me, sucks me in... it's so much like ambient music, whilst not actually sounding like it, in a way. |
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