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offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:00 [#00764658]
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Yo, crew. I know some of you remember that a couple of
weeks ago I came here asking you what questions would you
like me to ask Mike Paradinas in an email interview for a
mag. Well, the interview is done and I thought I'd share it
with you lot since you have been helpful and I know you are
interested. Since it's quite long, I'll separate it in
several posts, OK?

Q:It has taken you three years to come up with a new album.
In these three
years a lot of things on the electronic scene in particular
and music world
in general have changed. Do you feel that the music of
mu-ziq has moved on
with the times and if yes how?

A: If my music has moved on, I know not why. You mention
scene changes: since '99 the "electronic scene" seems to
have got full of lots of amateurs - by that I mean everyone
(92%?) who listens to "idm" trys a couple of gos at making
it, if not more. This is great in theory (a level playing
field), but in practice is bad for the scene... too many
releases - like looking for a needle in haystack. There
needs to be some filters (record labels?) to weed out all
the shit.... Stylistic changes in the scene: not that many
since '99 - i would say a couple are - the resurgance of
drill'n'bass and popularity of breakcore and hardcore
(possibly thanks to planet mu's championing of Hellfish and
Snares?). Perhaps it is my 2 children or the inspiration of
planet mu artists, drum'n'bass and garage tunes that have
changed my sound. But I suspect it is a coimbination of all
things - not least my change from Atari to Apple-Mac. And
audio-sequencers.

Q: As an electronic producer that has managed to get the
attention of a broader
audience and simultaneously a support from a big label, how
do you feel
about this kind of music often being ghetoized, either by
"insiders" who
like to think of it as an elite genre, or by "others" who
think it's just so
much pseudointellectual garbage that extracted any fun dance
music might
have had left?

A: Well, regarding "insiders", I think it's


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:00 [#00764659]
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A: Well, regarding "insiders", I think it's human nature to
want to keep your discovery to yourself. in the same way
that rare-groove or northern soul djs cover up the labels of
their 7"s so no-one knows their secret "battle-tunes'...
Also, I love dance music and often try to keep some "fun"
and funk in my music and some of the music I curate for
planet mu. I am often derided for making un-funny comedy
music. ho.



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:01 [#00764661]
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Q: How do you react when people ask you about the hardware
and software you use
to create music? Do you often hear things like "I wish I had
this or that
piece of software, that's all I need to make better music!"

A: I think you know the answer to this. Yes, you can do
pretty much anything you want with the main software
programs these days. I don't care what people use. The only
limit is your imagination (as Barney the dinosaur [and Glass
Domain] says).

Q: You have numerous aliases and monikers that act like
outlets for various
musical interests you have as an author. On the other hand,
even though
mu-ziq has started as a colaborative effort, you haven't
been big on
colaboration ever since. Apart from the Mike and Rich album,
other stuff
has pretty much been solo. Is that a conscious decision or
just the way
things happen to be? Outfits like Plaid or Autechre seem to
be an example of
succesfull duo work in electronic music as opposed to
solitary authors such
as RDJ, Sqarepusher, Venetian Snares or you...

A: I also collab'd with Speedy J on the Slag Boom Van Loon
album. It can be fun working with others, but sometimes the
ideas can become diluted. You have to find a particular
area/mental-musical space where you can both be well
creative together. It takes a few attempts and you have to
persevere. But as you noticed I work alone. This is because
Frank (who I did some of "Tango..." with) left me. I was sad
(also because he owned the computer and all the gear), but I
came back and decided to have a go on my own.



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:02 [#00764662]
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Q: "Billous paths" among other things uses some ragga and
hip-hop samples.
Previous mu-ziq albums have also featured recognisable
samples of Gang Starr
for instance. As obvious as it is that hip-hop has had a big
influence on
(not only british) electronica producers, the majority of
the audience seem
to be white middle to upper middleclass youth with little or
no interest in
hip-hop. What is the relationship between "community"music
genres such as
hip-hop/ reggae and more "abstract" forms (if this
separation is even
realistic)? Any chance that audiences benefit from getting
familliar with
both?

A: I have never been into hip hop. I don't listen to it. I
get all my 'supposed' hip hop influence from Jungle and
UKGarage which both sample it & are the forms of music for
young people today in England (apart from American 'Punk'
influenced white Rock which I don't "dig"). I was into some
Electro (proto hip hop?) when I was younger (in 80s) like
some of the Streetsound Electro compilations where I first
heard drum-machines and bits of electronic (like
Kraftwerk...) which is where I sampled the rap for "Silk
ties" from. Also Hellfish is big into old-skool rap and
makes me tapes. But my big love was rave (90-93) and Jungle
(94-96). And now uk "grimy" garage (2001+) which is the
bastard son of jungle.. and hip hop? It's becoming the first
real British street rap perhaps. Stuff like Wiley and
Dizzee. But also the bass heavy sound of Black Ops and
Optimal Noize.

Q: With all the political upsurge going on within the
leftfield music, inspired
by the recent Iraq-related events, is there a place for
electronic music
(usually equal partsabstract and intimate/ personal) to
analyse, criticise
and educate?

A: It can juxtapose and provoke in the way that much art
can-- there's always room for that in politically uncertain
times. personally I find it hard to write any music with a
concept in mind, and find it best to go with the "flow".
Have you heard Jonny L's new single? It has George Bus


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:04 [#00764664]
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A: It can juxtapose and provoke in the way that much art
can-- there's always room for that in politically uncertain
times. personally I find it hard to write any music with a
concept in mind, and find it best to go with the "flow".
Have you heard Jonny L's new single? It has George Bush on
it - here's a sample:

http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF118144-1.mp3



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:04 [#00764666]
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Q: Do you think that most people identifying George Bush as
the
epitome of Evil does more good or bad?

A: I think most English see him as a short-term
moneygrabber. Just in it for US's profits.

Q: You have done quite a few live performances in your
career, even playing to
more varied audiences in bigger venues with the likes of
Bjork. Laptop and
electronic artists are often accused of not putting a show,
reading their
email onstage, not having a proper stage presence etc. What
is your take on
this? Surely, music made in bedrooms should not be listened
to in bedrooms
only?

A: I think the problem with the "entertainment" factor of
laptop shows happens mainly in the States. I've had no
complaints in Europe/Japan or Canada. I think that
(American?) people expect you to walk about the stage with
your laptop throwing it about and shouting at the audience.
Seriously tho': Electronic music is a necessarily
studio-based music and doesn't translate well to the live
arena...



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:05 [#00764667]
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Q: Planet-mu has been started as a major-label imprint but
has gone to become a
true DIY effort over the years. Knowing a wide array of
obscure and brave
acts you have been releasing on the label, one can't help
but wonder do you
feel you are fighting a losing battle with the business and
the apathetic
audiences or is this your wildest dream come true.

A: It is my dream come true. Not very wild. I don't think
I'm fighting a losing battle anymore than other electronic
labels, there is just a general downturn in all sales, I'm
just happy putting out music I believe in. In fact we are
now starting to do relatively well (relative to some other
elec. labels), so there is some cause for celebration. But
it's still very difficult to get records into shops in some
places. Germany(+switz/austria) for instance.. we always
seem to have bad distribution there.. and non-existant in
other places...



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:05 [#00764668]
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Q: Over the past couple of years with the proliferation of
online file sharing,
record industry has started retaliating with some nasty
gestures. However,
the environment is changed and the effects on record sales
are visible. You
have commented on more than one occasssion that, having
understanding for
people who share music over the line, you feel that whereas
major labels
might experience troubles, small labels like Planet Mu are
being destroyed
by people who have stopped buying releases and just download
music for free.
Has anything changed in the meantime?

A: No, I have to defend some musicians way of life surely?
most of them earn very little (usually nothing) from a cd
releases anyway, so all these kids (mainly in US) who whine
about being poor, and giving a finger to the corporate
system earn far more than the musicians they steal from. I
am fine with people downloading mp3s to check out tracks, or
obtain hard to find releases. It's just that lots of people
only ever have mp3s and never buy anything, but there is
nothing I can do. There is no business model to compete with
"free". Miguel from tb6 told me he was going to use a new
copy protection system on all his cds soon... but I am not
into that I would prefer people to be responsible
themselves. Idealistic. So eventually Planet Mu will have to
stop - when we run out of money, but hopefully not for a few
years yet. It is just sometimes annoying that an artist like
Vsnares who works very hard, sells very little. Basically
since Planet Mu started sales have dropped to a sixth of
what they were (16.6%)... Warp also sell less now I
think.... but their sales are far larger. There is a thread
at xltronic on Warp US soundscan sales and I was so
surprised at how much they sold.



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:06 [#00764670]
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Q: After your latest album leaked on the
Internet several weeks before the release date, you
mentioned stopping
releasing music under this name and eventually shutting the
label down.
Still feel like that?

A: l like what? I feel really good, and I did at that time
too. My reasons for doing what I do are not because I'm
unhappy - in fact I was very pleased when I heard it was on
Soulseek. I was just trying to be humourous when I wrote on
the promo cds: "The copyright is owned by Planet Mu Records
Ltd..." (this makes me laugh because copyright has little
value in electronic [or any?] music, today) so I added:
"Like you care, and if I find copies on any p2p network
before the release date there will be no more µ-ziq
albums." So now I suppose I have the choice of abiding by
this or not, I don't give it much thought at the moment. If
I have a new release I might use the name if it seems the
right thing to do. I was never annoyed because this is such
a common thing and it affects me little; so what if I have
to get a non-musical job? at least I will have more money to
look after my kids + wife etc.



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:06 [#00764671]
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Q: With bastard-remixes being many people's passtime lately
it was no surprise
to see two EP's showing up on Planet Mu with your favourite
artists using
pop-music anthems to play around, chop-up, comment on and
turn to their own
ends. However, in theory, is this any different from people
downloading
Planet Mu releases for free? They take your property without
paying to
listen to at home, whereas you take Christina Aguillera's
and Eminem's
property (or their labels' property to say the least) to
make money off. Is
it different because you have artistic ends in mind and
how?

A: No, it's illegal, that's why they were called "Criminal"
eps. We are stealing just as everyone else is, just we are
making art out of being criminal, whereas some thieves are
not- it's just un-cleared sampling, effectively. I don't
think we made much money from it - maybe around 100 Euros
altogether off both eps. Vinyl doesn't make much money as
it's now so expensive to manufacture. But I think the Planet
Mu eps are a little more creative than a lot of the other
bootleg mash-up style things, especially the ones that just
layer an r&b vocal over a rock track (yawn)., the exeption
is Osymyso's "Intro Introspection" (download it on slsk!)...
a v. cool track made just of intros of pop trax.



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:07 [#00764672]
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Q: Where do you go from here? Mu-ziq being your best known
moniker and your
most eclectic project, are you going to focus on some other
existing
projects of yours now or create a new identity? Where does
the electronic
music go from here?

A: Me not know. I am doing another Kid Spatula 2cd to be
released next year, all very melodic & some ambient(ish)
sounds... no title yet. I have little time for recording or
making music these days, what with the label & family. (and
the label family!)



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:07 [#00764674]
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Q: You are famous for discovering less known artists and
giving them a chance to live their visions (Hellfish or
Doormouse, but
Venetian Snares is the best example with your unprecended
dedication to
putting his stuff out), any surprises on the horizon?

A: Lots of new releases on the horizon:

Leafcutter John - The Housebound Spirit (cd album)
Ambulance - The Curse Of Vale Do Lobo (cd album)
Subjex - Interstella (7")
Guilty Connector - Conspiracy Of The Mankind (7")
Venetian Snares - Einstein Rosen Bridge (12")
Remarc - Sound Murderer (3LP/cd album)
Urban Myth & Steve Beresford - Live at the Friends Meeting
House (cd album)
dDamage - Radio Ape (cd album)
Venetian Snares - (2LP/cd album)
Various - Children Of Mu (2cd album)
Datach'i - Mmale Ffemale (cd album)
OOO - Upon Cycles (cd album)
edIT - Crying Over Pros For No Reason (cd album)
Julian Fane (cd album)
Remarc - Reloaded(?) (2LP/cd album)
Jega - Variance (2LP/cd album)



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:08 [#00764675]
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Well, that's it, boyos and girlos, hope you like it...


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-07-02 01:16 [#00764678]
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what exactly is uk garage


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:37 [#00764681]
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Someone described it as "RB vocals over two step beats,
played on 45 RPM".


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-07-02 01:37 [#00764682]
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great interview! thanks for putting this up


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 01:40 [#00764686]
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No probs, hope Mike P doesn't mind.....


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-02 02:20 [#00764709]
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Cheers Meho- nice to see the results of our questions. Thank
you.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 02:26 [#00764710]
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Cheers Ceri, you took a part in it as well.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-07-02 02:39 [#00764716]
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Super-good Meho! Very good questions!

And thanks to Mike for the good info and answers!


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 03:01 [#00764719]
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Heh, glad you likkked it.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-02 03:53 [#00764728]
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nice to see the this great interestinf interview, but much
better to see you around


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2003-07-02 04:57 [#00764754]
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Really good, man.

Shit, Meho. What happened to you? I remember last summer
reading your posts every day. Usually they contained
references to sex and/or pornography. Which was good.

Where have you been?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 05:04 [#00764761]
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Heh, I'm here, but I am quite busy and have no time to hang
on the messageboard that much. I am getting promoted next
week so that'll give me even less time. Ahhh, curse the
money for stealing sweetness from our lives...


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 05:08 [#00764774]
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yo meho!

a nice read. how is beograd these days?


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2003-07-02 05:10 [#00764778]
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Well, it's good to feel your presence again, man!


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 05:14 [#00764782]
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Holy shit, Korben, I feel so ashamed, I never got around to
replying to you, sorry dude, I'll get back to you again, I
promise......

Heh, my presence will end very soon, I'm afraid.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 05:16 [#00764785]
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hehe .. shit, wasn't meaning to scare you off man!!

nice to "see" you :)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 05:18 [#00764787]
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I know, you weren't. Boy, you look more and more like Miguel
Depredo with every passing day.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 05:21 [#00764791]
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hehe .. i'm still working on "the stare".


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 05:27 [#00764801]
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Did you see that he's about to start using copy-protection
technology on future Tigerbeat6 releases? I mean after
making stuff he made on violent turd and all that
bootleg/mp3 killed the CD star thingy this is quite
ironic...


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 05:34 [#00764808]
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serious?

i saw him live a little while ago here in auckland. an
incredible set. i also listened to the australian jjj radio
interview with him. re: the stealing of pop samples he said
people say radiohead and bjork (those were his examples)
stole from the underground - its time for the underground to
steal back.

i would have thought he was more like mike p - hope for
responsible fans??

u know that lesser mp3 cd hasn't arrived .. "supposedly" its
still on its way .. haha


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 05:42 [#00764815]
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It's in the interview posted on this thread, silly.

Huh, Bjork "stole" from the underground? I mean, she did the
last tour and album with his pals from Matmos.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 05:44 [#00764816]
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oh . i was talking about kid606 :)

but yeah. . i got the mike p thing from your interview.

yeah .. thought the bjork thing was a bit weird, tho the way
he said it, it sounded like he was paraphrasing other
people. don't know.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 05:47 [#00764819]
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I was talking about Kid 606 too, Korben: " Miguel from tb6
told me he was going to use a new
copy protection system on all his cds soon... but I am not
into that I would prefer people to be responsible
themselves. "


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 05:49 [#00764821]
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ah shit .. too true, touche .. :)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 05:50 [#00764822]
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On a side note, I see that on the other thread Phobia says
that everyone who mentions Skyfarmer in a post will be
temporarily banned. Does this mean that I am banned from
this moment on?


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 05:56 [#00764831]
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so are you publishing/have you published the interview as is
.. or have you made an intro etc.?? or cut and pasted quotes
and things?

on another side note:. you'd think it would at least be
cancelled by you sharing the interview?



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 06:00 [#00764836]
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It will be published in the next issue of this serbian music
mag and I don't think it being posted here will have any
impact on it, since I'll edit it down to 1500 words anyway.
I'll write the intro myself...


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 06:04 [#00764838]
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ah cool.

yo - i have to shoot off. good to see you :. hope you're
keeping well.

btw. Zizek is fuckin brilliant!


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 06:11 [#00764847]
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Zizek is the shit!!!

Sweet dreams, boyo!!!


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-07-02 06:16 [#00764850]
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;)

i'll try and get some scans sorted for you.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 06:24 [#00764855]
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That's great Meho :) Cheers.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 06:26 [#00764856]
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Cheers, gig.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 06:27 [#00764859]
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It's just good to see you around sir. Shame you can't stay
and congratulations on the promotion!


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 06:34 [#00764860]
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Heh yeah, it's crap actually, more work and responsibility
for a little more money. But nice to see ya guys, he, he.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-02 06:37 [#00764862]
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Oh man! Typical title change and heap loads more shit on
you.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-02 06:46 [#00764868]
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Exactly. But as I am extremely irresponsible, I'll make the
worst of it, hehehe.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-02 07:54 [#00764934]
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Thanks for the interview Meho.

Btw: Whats a DIY label?


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-02 08:00 [#00764939]
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Wasn't the Criminal Ep done by Bit Meddler?


 


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