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Well... I bought a new toy Behringer VMX300 Mixer I'm am happy to have so many knobs on my desk now But I suck at this... I downloaded Traktor, and have been starting to mix some things back and forth. Beat matching isn't too bad, but so many tricks on how to do things fluidly that I am clueless on Any tips from the more veteran DJs out there or some good web sites, etc that might help me out? If anyone's interesting, I'll post some sort of review on the mixer too |
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I'd be interested in what you have to say about this mixer of yours. As i have only been working with software for a while now i'd be more interested in learning hardware. |
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i say buy two turntables :) that's about all, actually. i only just started to learn myself. one tip i got was to bring the next record (song? :P) in with no bass first. makes the transition a little less noticable and more fluent (sp?), which is always nice. |
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yeah man fuck traktor |
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Yep- that's a good cheat if you've got a mixer with excellent frequency kills (look at the new vestax mcv-180, looks v. tasty...) Handy for if you're rushing to get a record on as the other one is 10 secs from the end and there's no time to beat match 'em. |
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Another tip is to not let Ceri J C on your decks ;P Seriously though. There's nothing a bit of practice and inventiveness won't do. There's no right way to mix. I'm sure I mix differently to most other people. |
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i can't wait for my records in the mail! |
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Don't criticise my "giving the decks a drink" technique! They love it- makes them more relaxed... |
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practice. or practise to you sanguine ;-) "how to dj properly" is a good book for starters. |
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I second that. Excellent book and covers lots of "fringe topics" like putting a record out, pirate radio, etc. |
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dude you cant learn it from a book! you got to learn it from the streets! |
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no you can't learn it from a book but it can help your technique. i hadn't got a fucking clue about skratching until i watched a qbert dvd. there aren't a lot of dmc champs where i live. |
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I dunno, I like his rapping and production, but "the streets" isn't a particularly good DJ IMO ;) |
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I can't learn it from a book because I can't read. :( If I had pictures I could... DJing is all about having an ear for it, fuck other epoples techniques...why does everyone always want to conform to set ways of doing things, with theory this and theory that, where theory at? |
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You been to your local DMC heats? I thought ours were shit (I'd not seen anyone remotely good) until I went to the Welsh heats and was amazed by the quality of some of the entrants. Fair enough, none of them were going to win it, but a couple of them weren't far off national championship ability. |
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"with theory this and theory that, where theory at?" With rhymes like that you should be MCing instead ;) |
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all the best mixing i done (i'm doing it right now with winamp and windows media player .. autechre and phoenecia).. has been about 10 mins into a set when i've entered "the zone".. the in-zone time is inversley proportional to the duration of practice..... or what lizardfister said |
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"DJing is all about having an ear for it, fuck other epoples techniques" yeah, agreed, but you need to start somewhere. i used to go to the bowgie with rdj in 88/89 and he would spend all night watching the dj and not dancing. we all thought he was mad. does he conform now? no. he took what he learnt and moved on. you just want a liverpool/manc fight dont you.......i'm not a manc anyway. ;) |
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learning how to beat match is pretty easy though step 1: play record a step 2: cue up record b step 3: play record b when record a's beat repeats step 4: if the beats don't match change pitch and repeat step 3 until they do ta-daa! |
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step 5: skip step 6 step 6: nail your hand to turntables step 7: go back to step 6 |
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Mixing is so much more than getting the tunes in time. There's also the factor of making it so seamless that people could swear you were playing another tune. Choice of songs is major factor. My mixing isn't up to the seamless yet but I'm getting better. I certianly have my own style (Phat Planet with Nice Weather for Ducks anyone?) but it does work. There's no clashing sounds at all. Mixing idm/braindance whatever the fuck you call it is harder as it's such a "random" form of music. Some tunes go through so many variations in one song that it's really hard to try and mix with it. Which leads me to the next point. Learn the tunes you're going to mix well. Maybe not off by heart but have a good knowledge of what's going to happen and when. You want to mix Dance like your Selling Nails then you need to know when it's going to go to the strings and out again. Does that make sense? Also, you have to mix for the crowd yeah? Well also mix for yourself. Never play a tune you despise. You'll only mix it badly as you don't know it and want it over with. |
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Well it sped everything anyway :P |
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"There's also the factor of making it so seamless that people could swear you were playing another tune." that doesn't sound seemless at all. |
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Yes it does. I may not have described it well but what I meant was mixing the next song in so well that people didn't even realise it was coming in and then they're just going with the beat so much they don't even realise that it's completely the next song. Does that make more sense? |
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Kk... I think after a few hours of getting to know my mixer I'm starting to understand the basics. I'm going to stick to the computer (Traktro or Ableton, haven't decided) because I think I'll be able to do things with the mixer, write my own plugins, etc, that nobody can do on turntables... I hope... we'll see... Lots of good advice, I need to start asking more specific questions and writing this stuff down I guess, that book sounds like a good start |
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