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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:14 [#00763884]
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hi there...
i don;t know if any of you ever think that you may not listen to autechre or afx etc...in ten years time...but somtimes i do...
i listen to such a wide variation of crazy muic that is electronica based, and i have bought so much music since i first started collecting, it has almost become habvbit forming to buy listen and appreciate the latest afx, autechre etc....
i thought i was a non-spoon fed music lover, "don;t feed me any of this pop chart crap"....but, really, do we like it that much....
just ask yourself this....if a track you listen to for the first time, if it wasn't by afx or autechre, etc....would you still like it...
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-01 13:17 [#00763889]
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i like whatever is good the problem is most people dont have the reasorces of afx or auchere to make an decent impact on the music scene
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:17 [#00763890]
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yo
i just pulled a gig on saturday with my mate
and yeah it was the best gig weve ever done :)
so yeah its personal in my case.. grooves catch me when they do etc.. i could go on
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:18 [#00763891]
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true true, but i have such a wide and huge variation of electronic music that is quality and so different from ae and afx, i just don;t know what to think....IS IT A MID COLLECTORS CRISIS!!! MAYBE I HAVE OVERLOADED....I AM ADDICTED TO FINDING DIFFERENT GOOD MUSIC....
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 13:19 [#00763893]
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I have a load of tracks on my computer now by people off this board. I have burnt CD's containing them as well. I like music that I like...probably my most listened to tracks at the moment are by mc_303_beatz off this board.
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:20 [#00763895]
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THAT'S good to know...i think i am having a panick attack!!!!!! LOL
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:21 [#00763897]
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hehehe
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-07-01 13:22 [#00763898]
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actually, i think the fact that a lot of us so dogmatically listen to what has now become the canon of electronic music (autechre, et al.), it makes us appreciate new and innovative music even moreso (provided we are not closed-minded about other genres and styles). when i first heard "in flight" by lusine icl, i was in heaven! here was finally something that was in the idm-vein while retaining a wonderfully melodic sensibility - and sure, things like proem have already been around for a while then, but this really struck a chord with me.
as far as i'm concerned, all that matters for me is that the music is sufficiently innovative and unique. it doesn't have to be something i'm familiar with already for me to actually appreciate it.
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:22 [#00763899]
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i need help....no, seriously....do we really know what we like about electronic music, or are we just completely overwhealmed by the infinate sounds that keep coming out to us?
sorry about being heavy on the philosophy here
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:23 [#00763900]
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here i know what i like :)
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:24 [#00763901]
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THAT'S RIGHT manticore from london....you are with me on this...(i am not on anything by the way) just been by myself all day, and well....
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 13:25 [#00763902]
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If you only listen to electronic music then you are depriving yourself of so much. I will listen to anything at all...in fact I lie in the sun listening to nature and the docks combined. It is fucking cool...
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-07-01 13:26 [#00763904]
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you keep saying 'we' and 'us'..why?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:27 [#00763905]
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couldnt explain it without getting philosophical, but its all kicks
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 13:27 [#00763906]
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next he will be trying to assimilate us. :D
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:28 [#00763907]
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i like the link perth guy!!
yeah, i find it hard to listen to electronica all the time and i have been listening a lot more to minimal guitar based stuff, like the neil young type thing...anyone know this stuff (dead man soundtrack) anyways, i have become a little more chilled out and less fussy, it's great listening to this kind of ambient when you have just bought a new set of free standing 100watt floor speakers too ( brag )
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:29 [#00763910]
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hehe i hope so
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 13:29 [#00763911]
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I have been getting into early Bowie stuff...I never thought I would see the day, but it has happened. :D
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:30 [#00763912]
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i've been listening to aphex for eleven years now, but with releases like druqks and smojphace i'm seeking alternatives like boc and more recently freescha and christ.
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:32 [#00763918]
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drukqs...well, i really must say i do seem to take that album on holiday with me coz i do like it so!! don't get me wrong, i didn't like it at first, but i think it is one of his best....26 remixes for cash...hmmm, yeah, you did do it for the money didn't you diqky! anyways...is it all getting to otired out now, what with the internet taking over, are we all getting over-loaded...or is it just me?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:35 [#00763920]
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diqky hey
if you listen to enough disco, youll be back
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:36 [#00763922]
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yeah, rdj isn't the only one who can play on words, i think i am starting to resent the man actually, especially after smojface BLAH BLAH .....kjhdgfadkfgakjdhakjsdhlkaJ... sorry mr james, but i don;t want to shag you any more
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:37 [#00763924]
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haha!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-01 13:40 [#00763926]
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Ya know when I discovered this stuff I was so blown away - it was so much better, so much more layered and complex and imaginative than anything else - that a letdown was inevitable. So fuck it, my heavy electronic listening period is over, and I listen to lots of jazz and indie and whatnot. Disco, death metal, folk, whatever.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-07-01 13:43 [#00763931]
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lately i've been digging out things i have hardly listened to for ages (mainly due to the fact that when i originally got them, i've listened to them nearly to death).
every now and then i get to a point where i've gotten so oversaturated with a particular genre that for a while i won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
i guess i try to match the music i listen to at any given moment on any given day to my mood at the time. lately i've cut back completely on underground hip-hop and forgot all about electronic music in favour of more guitar-oriented stuff.
i've dug out P.J. Harvey's excellent 'stories from the city, stories from the sea', been listening to Travis (i don't care what any elitist bastards say - they still make good tunes, plus it's very summery music), and of course Radiohead.
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:43 [#00763932]
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wow, i don;t feel so alone now...i listen to a lot of what i used to listen too, is this it now...?
is the search over for a new type of music? i was so "wow, this is the holy grail what i have been searching for all my life!" when i found electronica....and like you said....it's kinda stopped now...
are we forever searching for albums now that won't quite be as good as the ones we have played to death....sorry to depress anyone...i know i am depressing myself
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-07-01 13:44 [#00763934]
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Try Dumb Dance Music ! Its good too :) !
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 13:44 [#00763935]
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Actually my feeling towards electronic music changed totally when I started making it myself...I remember listening to drill tracks thinking fucking hell how did they do that...once I realised how easy it is I got bored with drill...I am more into melody now, and I think the diversity of the sounds that can be produced electronically lends itself perfectly.
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 13:46 [#00763936]
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i get you.....stories form the sity is so quality!!! i love that woman....
tel lyou what, you get so much good music and play the albums to death that you end up doing a full circle of your collection...i think i must be doing another loop then....the progression is starting again....
maybe everytime you go through the loop you hear the stuff you first started to listen to differently, and again the next time you go through the loop...only the loop gets bigger everytime you go through the loop!....AWESOME... ANYBODY WITH ME ON THIS?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:46 [#00763937]
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draft exceeded my expectations.. but ill also say that electronic isnt going to finish as such because it has a lot of potential as an instrument
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 13:47 [#00763938]
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in other words its potentially as much an instrument as other musical medias
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-07-01 14:02 [#00763961]
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yeah, agreed! there are times when i get so utterly bored of my CD collection (and i must have at least a 1,000 or so CDs in total) that i can't help but rush out to a few local record stores and pick up something i've read favourable reviews of, have been recommended by someone else, or otherwise been meaning to get for ages
that's sort of how i discovered things like Four Tet, or Dead Can Dance for example - i heard 'into the labyrinth' a long time ago on casette -and at the time hated it, but once i heard, 'the host of seraphim' on the Baraka soundtrack, i fell in love with them! I've got everything they've ever put out now.
same with The Third Eye Foundation - i didn't get 'ghost' at all when i first heard it - too dissonant and noisy, i thought - but i absolutely love all TEF stuff now!
if you wanna try something really different than what you're used to, i highly recommend 'this mess we've made' by Matt Elliot (formerly TEF) - very victorian, sort of mid 19-th century sounding stuff - awfully melancholy and downright beautiful! also along similar lines, anything by Yann Tiersen (he did the soundtrack to 'Amelie'), which Matt Elliot (under his TEF moniker) actually remixed a bit back.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-01 14:04 [#00763963]
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humm
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-01 14:21 [#00763993]
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i hardley ever listen to "the watmm four" anymore. i'm sticking more to breakcore and lesser known shit. and venetian snares of course.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-07-01 14:27 [#00764003]
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Haha "WATMM four"! IDM AllStars!
Seriously though, the best thing about electronic music is that it is pretty much limitless.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-01 14:29 [#00764006]
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yeah there's a squarepusher quote that i got from zeus
"ulitmately the great thing about electronic music is not being limited to a pair of hands" or something like it
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-01 14:29 [#00764007]
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"i don;t know if any of you ever think that you may not listen to autechre or afx etc...in ten years time...but somtimes i do... "
i have been listening to some afx for almost 10 years already. i don't see why i wouldn't be listening to it for at least 10 more years.
other music in my collection i have been listening to for much longer. if it's good, its good regardless of time.
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 14:35 [#00764023]
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yeah, i have listened to the pixies and frank black for 13 years now, and i love them all the same....
they never seem to age
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-07-01 14:37 [#00764029]
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is it me orr do you guys mainly seem to pit it -
Electrronica Vs Everry Otherr Forrm Of Music
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-01 14:39 [#00764038]
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US VS TEH WORLD
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 14:41 [#00764040]
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no, no....we are trying to explain how things progress and end up doing a full revolution/circle when collections of music are made, and how they progress to other music, then, when you get stuck (like i am now) you start to listen to stuff you bought before and so another revolution, but it gets bigger every time....the music just gets so jumbled up and on and on....
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 14:43 [#00764044]
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When you think about it and go back to the formative music you listened to in the past you can often find that the avenue off that sound is not the only avenue you could have taken, so it is often going right back to what sparked your interest in the first place and begin again.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 14:44 [#00764046]
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shit :D
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 14:44 [#00764047]
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yes!!!! there are little interrevolutions within the whole entire revolution that is your cd collection!!! wow...anyone here doing a music degree? you could write a thesis on this! well, i would anyways....i might, i don't need a music certificate or anything to do it either
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-01 14:45 [#00764049]
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Zeus is doing some sort of music thing, although his is a lot more involved than this sort of stuff.
Titsworth likes writing shit I think, he might be interested.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 14:46 [#00764051]
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i dont, but i do acknowledge that its not broadly perceived as being equal
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 14:48 [#00764053]
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i do love to brainstorm theories amoungst people....i am glad some of you are in the mood to take part, it's a great way to keep creative...
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-01 14:48 [#00764055]
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woo almost 3000
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diastole1
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-01 15:02 [#00764081]
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rockenjohnny...will you please post something coherrent for once...look, i can tell you are a nice guy, but perhaps a touch overdone using the message boards? or are you on speed or something? sorry
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-07-01 15:16 [#00764103]
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i think that there is an inherently regressive tendency in all humans, whether we acknowledge it or not - all of us subconsicously yearn for a simpler time when the world didn't weigh so heavily on our shoulders - ie. early childhood, which for most of us was free of worry, and is usually associated with a sense of great comfort - a time when everything seemed so simple & wonderful and nearly everything could captivate your imagination.
even sleeping is sort of akin to returning to the womb - most of us curl up in a fetal position when we nod off.
so it would only make sense that eventually one would be enclined to return to the sort of music which perpetuated the process of broadening one's musical horizons in the first place - that's not to say that we may want to dalve as far back as the time when we all thought michael jackson was the shit, but ...
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