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theo himself
from +- on 2003-06-27 18:37 [#00759979]
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There was an article on the Warp website shortly after Drukqs was released describing the stylistic pastiches and techniques of artists like Erik Satie and John Cage that Richard James followed in the composition of the prepared piano pieces on that album. It told what was meant when one "prepares" a piano, and the various obstructions one puts in between the strings and the hammers in the piano in order to ellicit a percussive sound or to sustain notes in a sort of organic reverberation synthesis. It also specified the midi-based (player) piano he used to perform some of these pieces (many of which involve two separate time signatures played concurrently; a great challenge even to many relatively accomplished or experienced pianists). It gave links to external information resources and retailers of this particular piano (Klava-something?). Does anyone remember what the name of this piano was, or the name of any similar ones?
Also, with an instrument like this, can the piano itself be the input through which one can arrange a pattern for the midi component to read and reinterpret using the sample of their choosing? (ie can someone play something on the piano, and have the midi component make a notation of what was played, allowing one to use any sample they want to play in that exact pattern? I still don't think I fully understand midi, having never used any kind of midi-enabled devices).
Finally, can keyboards (not simply controllers, but keyboards with their own soundbanks) act as controllers? This is pretty much what I'm asking with that Drukqs piano question.
OH!!! and, AANND.. am I wrong in thinking that a midi device can actually interact with the interface of, say a program like Renoise, for example?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-06-27 18:39 [#00759987]
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:39 [#00759988]
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I could probably give you a half-way intelligent answer, but unfortunatly I don't have a sufficient attention span to read the entire post. Sorry :(
But I did see it has something to do with Druqks, which I like alot :D
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-06-27 18:39 [#00759989]
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The song with the two different signatures playing at the same time is "Kesson Dalef." It is extremely difficult to play. Then again, I started playing this November after about a decade-long hiatus that began with my final piano recital in 3rd/4th grade.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:40 [#00759991]
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Klavier i think is the type of paino. Do a search for it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 18:41 [#00759993]
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in slovenian language klavir means piano - how about that :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-27 18:43 [#00759997]
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Any keyboard capable of sending midi notes can be used as a controller, the only thing is you don't normally get the assignable knobs and buttons on them :D
MIDI is only notation as to what note has been pressed, the velocity of the depression, pitch bend etc. It contains no sound information itself which means the files are really small and the data is easy to pass around.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-27 18:44 [#00760002]
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That also means that the midi information can be played on a eyboard but then you can map other sounds to the notes etc...basically you can do pretty much anything you want.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-06-27 18:49 [#00760014]
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That's sounds great.. exactly what I need. I'm surprised to find out that it is pressure sensitive.. that's really incredible.. what do you mean by pitch bend though? like the manual readjusting of the pitch on the keyboard..
what do these "assignable knobs and buttons" generally control?
and most midi controllers come w/ software that pretty much provides a bank of sounds right? so you end up with a keyboard pretty much anyway, right/
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-27 18:52 [#00760020]
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Yep...the pressure sensitivity is called the velocilty curve.
Some keyboards have pitch bend wheels and the left hand side, and also modulation wheels. It means...say you where playing a pad you can move the pitch wheel and it will increase the pitch of the sound...it works with individual notes too.
On my controller keyboard, the standard knobs (they can be reassigned if I wasnted them to be) control pan,expression,two effect,reverb,delay,chorus,phaser,attack,release,cut off and resonance.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-06-27 18:56 [#00760025]
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ah ok.. so it works out to be a better deal to get a controller.. u do haev more, well control, and you're given a bank of sound to work with, not to mention all the samples u come up with and find
what is a pad exactly
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-27 18:59 [#00760037]
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hmmm, you would be best reading up :D
But once you have your controller just get a copy of Absynth and FM7 and you have got the equivalent of a $2000 synth. :P
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-06-27 19:00 [#00760038]
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here's the article
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-06-27 19:23 [#00760070]
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ah thank yo\ very much!
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-06-28 08:10 [#00760639]
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MIDI has saved my life.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-06-28 09:03 [#00760663]
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you can achive that setup easily with reason heres sumtin i done in that way try :(john cage edit pt2)
yes this is in part a shameless plug but the other is to ...
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