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offline theo himself from +- on 2003-06-27 18:37 [#00759979]
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There was an article on the Warp website shortly after
Drukqs was released describing the stylistic pastiches and
techniques of artists like Erik Satie and John Cage that
Richard James followed in the composition of the prepared
piano pieces on that album. It told what was meant when one
"prepares" a piano, and the various obstructions one puts in
between the strings and the hammers in the piano in order to
ellicit a percussive sound or to sustain notes in a sort of
organic reverberation synthesis. It also specified the
midi-based (player) piano he used to perform some of these
pieces (many of which involve two separate time signatures
played concurrently; a great challenge even to many
relatively accomplished or experienced pianists). It gave
links to external information resources and retailers of
this particular piano (Klava-something?). Does anyone
remember what the name of this piano was, or the name of any
similar ones?

Also, with an instrument like this, can the piano itself be
the input through which one can arrange a pattern for the
midi component to read and reinterpret using the sample of
their choosing? (ie can someone play something on the piano,
and have the midi component make a notation of what was
played, allowing one to use any sample they want to play in
that exact pattern? I still don't think I fully understand
midi, having never used any kind of midi-enabled devices).

Finally, can keyboards (not simply controllers, but
keyboards with their own soundbanks) act as controllers?
This is pretty much what I'm asking with that Drukqs piano
question.

OH!!! and, AANND.. am I wrong in thinking that a midi device
can actually interact with the interface of, say a program
like Renoise, for example?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-06-27 18:39 [#00759987]
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?


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:39 [#00759988]
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I could probably give you a half-way intelligent answer, but
unfortunatly I don't have a sufficient attention span to
read the entire post. Sorry :(

But I did see it has something to do with Druqks, which I
like alot :D


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-06-27 18:39 [#00759989]
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The song with the two different signatures playing at the
same time is "Kesson Dalef." It is extremely difficult to
play. Then again, I started playing this November after
about a decade-long hiatus that began with my final piano
recital in 3rd/4th grade.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:40 [#00759991]
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Klavier i think is the type of paino. Do a search for it.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-06-27 18:41 [#00759993]
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in slovenian language klavir means piano - how about that :)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-27 18:43 [#00759997]
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Any keyboard capable of sending midi notes can be used as a
controller, the only thing is you don't normally get the
assignable knobs and buttons on them :D

MIDI is only notation as to what note has been pressed, the
velocity of the depression, pitch bend etc. It contains no
sound information itself which means the files are really
small and the data is easy to pass around.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-27 18:44 [#00760002]
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That also means that the midi information can be played on a
eyboard but then you can map other sounds to the notes
etc...basically you can do pretty much anything you want.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-06-27 18:49 [#00760014]
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That's sounds great.. exactly what I need. I'm surprised to
find out that it is pressure sensitive.. that's really
incredible.. what do you mean by pitch bend though? like the
manual readjusting of the pitch on the keyboard..

what do these "assignable knobs and buttons" generally
control?

and most midi controllers come w/ software that pretty much
provides a bank of sounds right? so you end up with a
keyboard pretty much anyway, right/


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-27 18:52 [#00760020]
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Yep...the pressure sensitivity is called the velocilty
curve.

Some keyboards have pitch bend wheels and the left hand
side, and also modulation wheels. It means...say you where
playing a pad you can move the pitch wheel and it will
increase the pitch of the sound...it works with individual
notes too.

On my controller keyboard, the standard knobs (they can be
reassigned if I wasnted them to be) control
pan,expression,two
effect,reverb,delay,chorus,phaser,attack,release,cut off and
resonance.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-06-27 18:56 [#00760025]
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ah ok.. so it works out to be a better deal to get a
controller.. u do haev more, well control, and you're given
a bank of sound to work with, not to mention all the samples
u come up with and find

what is a pad exactly


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-27 18:59 [#00760037]
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hmmm, you would be best reading up :D

But once you have your controller just get a copy of Absynth
and FM7 and you have got the equivalent of a $2000 synth. :P


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2003-06-27 19:00 [#00760038]
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here's the article


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-06-27 19:23 [#00760070]
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ah thank yo\ very much!


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-06-28 08:10 [#00760639]
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MIDI has saved my life.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-06-28 09:03 [#00760663]
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you can achive that setup easily with reason
heres sumtin i done in that way
try :(john cage edit pt2)

yes this is in part a shameless plug but the other is to ...



 


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