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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-26 21:12 [#00758667]
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ok, Im high, so this might just be the reason... but im listening to Winter In The Belly of The Snake, right now....and its just like... fucking chill. Even all of the crazy glitches seem some how ambient in some way...
its just weird, cause i know alot of people consider snares real hardcore and stuff...
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Clic
on 2003-06-26 21:14 [#00758669]
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Listen to his other albums.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-26 21:15 [#00758671]
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"is Snares is not hardcore "
followed up by
"ok, Im high"
------- I love this messageboard
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-26 21:16 [#00758672]
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quiet you
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-26 21:16 [#00758674]
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yep winter seemed a lot more mellow because of the use of electronic sounds instead of the normal heavy drum breaks....it is a pretty ambient album though, I am not too sure about it in places, it seems a bit scatty and random, but it can be an enjoyable listen :D
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-26 21:18 [#00758676]
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i actually think it might not be as hardcore, because it is so random. i mean yeah, there are glitches all over the place... but its not in a consistant time signature, so you dont get the driving pulse. its ambient rythems
$5 says that previous paragraph made no sense
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-26 21:20 [#00758679]
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I would agree with you there...because their are not really any repetative breaks to latch onto and think "fuck this is hard" it lessens the as you say the driving pulse.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-26 21:21 [#00758680]
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man these are some sick sounds.
anyone know what equipment/programs he uses?
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Clic
on 2003-06-26 21:22 [#00758682]
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OctaMED, I think. Surely some other things, too.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-26 21:22 [#00758683]
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wow, never heard of that...
:-s
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-26 21:23 [#00758684]
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Some of the patterns sound like they are done in Reason to me...also he deffo uses FM7 because I recognise some of the sounds.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-26 21:24 [#00758685]
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yeah, i bet he uses alot of NI stuff... reaktor etc.
Very slick sounds... which they are known for
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-06-26 21:38 [#00758690]
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he uses OctaMED as a tracker/sequencer, and Sound Forge for a lot of his wav editing and such
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-26 21:40 [#00758691]
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For real?
I will have to have a look at that OctaMED.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-06-26 21:46 [#00758692]
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venetian snares is straight up fucking awful.. there really is no two ways about it.. I loosened up on WITBOAS a bit.. but there's just not an ounce of talent in that kid
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-06-26 22:25 [#00758697]
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dont waste your time - OctaMED is nothing special, its just a standard amiga style tracker - seriously - not worth a look at all
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-26 22:27 [#00758699]
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I had a look at the site...it looks a bit shit and I think I have actually seen it before when my mate used to try and do music on his Amiga... :P
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cutups
from Pittsburgh (United States) on 2003-06-26 22:29 [#00758700]
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its not that hardcore to be hardcore anymore. its just (gladly) been mutating into something else. snares happens to be able to do it well.
octamed is just old. it was good in its day.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-06-26 22:35 [#00758702]
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yes - i am aware that OctaMED was good in its day - but trackers are no use to the youngins of today :P
(im 15 and ive used trackers to make some songs :P)
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-26 23:03 [#00758709]
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not unlike Bogan Raczynski's 'My Love I Love'
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-26 23:03 [#00758710]
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Bogden not drunk
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-06-26 23:30 [#00758735]
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snares hjas a lot of patience with edits and priogramming
but most seq kids with a few hours on their hands could do most of what he does, if they really had the passion for that kind of shiz.
I'm not into the whole weird time sigs shit, personlly.
I'm more into the "slick programming" rather than the "HARDCORE MENTAL programming".
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-06-26 23:47 [#00758742]
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I find lots of the random drill and base type sound to be quite annoying, rather irritating. I like winter in the belly of a snake best because it is way more subdued and actually pleasant to the ears.
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2003-06-27 00:11 [#00758762]
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I find snares, particularly in Winter in the bElly) able to convey emotion. This is it!! It's often the biggest thing lacking in electronic songs. His method apeals to me cause iget the same feelings listening to ironic romantic pavement lyrics or good old simple sebadoh love songs. His songs are also humourous and intelligent. When i first heard him i just thought fuck, finally, someone is making some sense!
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thelema
from Yucatan Peninsula (Mexico) on 2003-06-27 05:35 [#00759035]
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aaron funk is a god
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-06-27 06:00 [#00759040]
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i sotted "making orange things" on Cd in a shop the other day. recomended?
(i like gabba, kid606 noise, Lesser, whitehouse, hellfish)
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-06-27 06:00 [#00759041]
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"spotted"
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-06-27 06:04 [#00759045]
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I hate VSNARES, DrillNBass is gay
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2003-06-27 06:04 [#00759046]
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this album is the definition of hardcore
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 06:58 [#00759093]
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he used dream station for witboas
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-06-27 07:27 [#00759166]
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kids please do not debate what he uses as you'd never guess what he has/uses ;)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-27 07:28 [#00759168]
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Well he deffo uses FM7....
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2003-06-27 07:30 [#00759173]
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A TAPERECORDER AND A BANJO
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toktoe44
from melbourne (Australia) on 2003-06-27 07:50 [#00759211]
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feed me more snare like sounds -Anybody know anybody doing something as sleek and emotive?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-27 07:54 [#00759217]
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care to share your infinite wisdom with us?
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-06-27 07:56 [#00759224]
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toktoe44: xanopticon
JAroen: what Sepix said
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 07:58 [#00759228]
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yeah xanopticon is pretty good, i'm getting a few of his records soon
also you could check out dj scud, i'm thinking about getting some of his stuff
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-06-27 08:00 [#00759232]
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i want his split 7" w/ kid606
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 08:05 [#00759237]
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scud or xanopticon?
i'm getting the xanopticon/eiterherd split, azif and meme mage
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-06-27 08:08 [#00759241]
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the meme mage 12" is hot, you'll not be disappointed. xanopticon has a split 7" with kid606 on tigerbeat6, but im not sure if it's out yet.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 08:14 [#00759250]
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yeah my friend said that was the best one, i hadn't heard of the split, but i'm not really on top of anything ever
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-06-27 08:19 [#00759256]
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meow059
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toktoe44
from melbourne (Australia) on 2003-06-27 08:22 [#00759259]
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back to the snare - songs about my cats?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-27 08:34 [#00759284]
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that does sound pretty bad ass
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cutups
from Pittsburgh (United States) on 2003-06-27 09:08 [#00759345]
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the 7"split has been delayed for forever. first they were waiting like 6 mo for 606 to actually make his side. then after he made it, he didn't like it, and spent like 3 more months making a new one. then they made test pressings last month and supposedly it was skipping. although the copy they sent xanopticon didn't skip...so i guess they're recutting it now and it'll be out...someday? probably the end of the summer.
xanopticon is going to have a cd album out on mirex...eventually. what you guys mentioned is the best to check now.
although you might dig his live sets even more, as he does alot of cut-up stuff live.
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