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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-21 10:10 [#00750406]
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feedback is appreciated. i've been working on this one for a few days, its one of my better tracks made under the name cartbot i think (thats not saying much, ha!). i've recently been trying to make my music slightly more listenable. the track is called space02.
my zebox page, space02
thanks for listening. please tell me what you think! :)
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 10:20 [#00750414]
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that's good. you've been listenin to Amber haven't you?!
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-21 10:23 [#00750417]
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uh... no not recently, did i steal a melody or something? i am always scared i will do that accidentally, and i probably do sometimes...
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-21 10:48 [#00750455]
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isn't anyone else going to listen? :(
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 11:09 [#00750468]
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its sucks doesn`t it. hardly anyone listens to yer tracks usually
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-21 11:29 [#00750477]
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it's pretty simple
not that it's bad, it sort of reminds me of my tracks, in that I like the slow progression, slow build, and simple melodic tone.
the synth at 1:01 kills it though, and it's funny, cuz I do that alot too, just add something that doesn't fit, and I feel cool, but it really doesn't work for me, and it just interupts your song here.
I'm a big fan of the minimalist creation here, but the fewer tools you use, the better they have to sound. I like your style, keep at it, and keep me posted when more stuff comes along.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-21 11:38 [#00750487]
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well, mr.Lyons.. I agree with BlatantEcho.
it was okay till the synth at 1:00 drops in. up till then the percussive elements were nice and the melody was simple but okay.
but that synth at 1:00 really is pretty awful. it sounds really lazy, like you wanted a melody there, but couldn't think of one.
try replacing that synth, I would say.
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-21 11:50 [#00750503]
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do you think the notes and the sound are awful, or just the notes? and is it awful as well when it comes in again at 2:02? thanks to everyone for listening and the honest feedback! :D
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-21 11:57 [#00750512]
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hey man, I can't tell you the notes are awful, or the sound is awful. It is your track, and you make it sound the way you want it to sound.
I just think the synth sound that starts @ 1:01 sounds lost and out of place. That's just my opinion.
qrter seemed to agree with me. I'm not going to pick your song apart, I think it shows that you are on a path that I personally really enjoy listening to.
That is all I meant, I'm not going to "correct" any note in that track that I don't agree with.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-06-21 12:01 [#00750515]
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i tried to download this track, but pop up ads kept cutting in and interrupting my attempts to save the link to my disk, then i got a message saying i had already downloaded the track three times, and was prevented from downloading.
thanks, zebox!
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-06-21 12:03 [#00750518]
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i have some of your other stuff...and i actually think i like it better. haha. well. see. here's the thing. that squeaky sci-fi thing in the beginning and all the way up until the 1:01 synth (which i must agree with qrter and blatantecho on...it seems like it belongs in another track). reminds me of FF7. the whole shinra theme thing they had goin'. yeah...can't explain it really. but that's the first thing it reminded me of. like...when you go up to the maako reactor and have the whole flashback thing. yeah...anyways...this is still really really good. honesty really truly really-reals. for reals. i'm not even kidding. one might even say that i'm being honest when i say that. it's just that one thing seems out of place or something. dunno.
this wasn't helpful. sorry to fill your thread with my video game nostalgia. heh.
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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-06-21 12:21 [#00750561]
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I'm going to be really pretentious, but only because I like what I heard, and because I haven't written a song in a while.
I agree with this 1 min mark that everyone else is talking about. It's not the notes, but the sound. I'd like to hear it transposed atleast 1 octave down.
I loved those percussive sounds. Made me jeoulous. But I wish it had some bass drums and snares in it. I was hoping that the beat would go hard, or harder. Like a bass and drum type thing.
But then again, maybe you have no desire for it to turn out into a song like that. At the end of the day, I was quite impressed.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-06-21 12:23 [#00750563]
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agreed.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-06-21 12:23 [#00750565]
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er...with that last bit there.
At the end of the day, I was quite impressed.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-06-21 12:46 [#00750602]
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ok, i was able to exit zebox and start over. your track starts out very amber-like, then adds nice digi-distorted percussion, which has become a cliché, but sounds good. the percussion doesn't really develop in an interesting way, however, and momentum is gradually lost as the melody fails to expand on the simple, repeating motifs. the synth that everyone has mentioned, for me, is as problematic in the melody, which should be rewritten, though i would change the sound, too. what's needed is more music, more inventive arrangement, more percussive elaboration. i think what you have is promising, you just need to develop your skills and expand your sound.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-21 13:07 [#00750623]
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D/ling now.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-21 13:27 [#00750633]
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Hmm it's good, but i prefered 2iu01, and also i kind of thought the synth part in question was a bit high in the mix.
I still enjoyed it, i love listening to other peoples work, It keeps me fresh and it helps move me along with what i'm doing.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-21 14:22 [#00750681]
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well said
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-21 14:40 [#00750722]
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I like this a lot. I've been playing a lot of doom2 and this melody would work in that game. but I like the weird fast squiggle beeps the most. I like those a lot and couldn't exactly emulate them quite like that myself.
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-06-21 14:48 [#00750746]
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what r u doing to me?
i listen to the song, and my head is caving in trying to place that bass in to the song, now it hurts
doesn't everyone think that with some bass and some fine tuning it could be a nice track
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-21 23:38 [#00751144]
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first i'd like to thank all of you for your feed back. i have used your comments and suggestions to (hopefully) improve the song, and if you care, there is a new version available at my sound click page. the first one on the page, space02edit.
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-21 23:40 [#00751146]
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ummm... did i do something wrong? because that link is red, but its not a link... ?
we'll try this again
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-22 11:02 [#00751665]
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bump. i think there are more than 10 people online now. if anyone who heard the earlier version would like to hear the new one that would be great.
space02edit
thank you. sorry.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-22 12:01 [#00751797]
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I think you took down the old one, so I forget exactly what the original was compared to this. The main difference I notice is the starting melody is more echoey. I like the first non-echoy one better I think.
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-22 12:22 [#00751832]
Points: 2017 Status: Lurker | Followup to w M w: #00751797
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...?
did you get the track you are talking about off of zebox? because the original song is still on zebox and i put the new one on soundclick and there is a lot more changed. i didn't make the first melody more echoey but alot of other things are different.
DO NOT GO TO ZEBOX, THE NEW TRACK IS ON SOUNDCLICK
sorry about that :(
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-22 13:12 [#00751913]
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oh yeah... I actually did listen to the soundclick one. I guess since, to me, it's a new track with unfamiliar sounds/structure, the changes weren't enough to notice really. If I listened to it as much as you I'd be able to tell easier. Well this time, I think you added some extra polyphonyish bass notes? I'm probably wrong again, heh heh. Well it sounds good, but adds an extra noise thereby blurring out the detail of the clicky percussion a little bit.
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