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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 06:05 [#00750137]
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I was just wondering what people from outside the UK think of us Brits?
I am living in Lithuania at the moment, and now that the summer has arrived when I go out at the weekends I seem to run into an alarmingly high number of Brits. Usually they are large groups of men on stag weekends. So, they are drunk, lairy, aggressive, arrogant, etc. It makes me feel quite ashamed to be British, because a lot of Lithuanians seem to expect me to behave in the same manner.
A friend of mine was telling me that Prague had become so overrun with drunken British men on stag weekends that they'd actually banned British people from some bars.
So, what do you think of us? Do foreigners think that we're all drunken, aggressive, promiscuous, hooligan-esque wankers, or do you realise that they are a minority? Or at least they were last time I was back home. A significant minority though, I hasten to add.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-21 06:24 [#00750166]
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drunken, aggressive, promiscuous, arrogant, ugly, hooligan-esque
wankers who refuse to accept that they are part of europe and therefore stick their middle finger up to the euro currency and everyone who takes part in it.
ok well not really of course. over-generalisation is an art ;)
i've never had any problems with british people (only seen a few of the previously described kind on a holiday or two in some spanish country), the few times i've been to england. i love the british sense of humor, it's well present on this board too, and i definitely prefer english over american language, then there's fantastic british movies, tv shows, MUSIC, books etc.. gotta love 'em for that :D
i suppose each country has their group of less popular persons. dont worry about it!
have a great day! (1000 points yay! took me bloody ages though!)
mmm coffeeeee :D
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-06-21 06:28 [#00750170]
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americans think that all you guys have bad teeth, which is not true. only about 80% of you guys have bad teeth
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-21 06:31 [#00750173]
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Well done, you are now as much of a geek as the rest of us :D
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2003-06-21 06:33 [#00750175]
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i met this really nice bloke from manchester yesterday and he pretty much talked me into moving to britain.
i've never met an evil/arrogant british person in my life.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-06-21 06:40 [#00750185]
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aussies and poms are soo much alike, i reckon
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-21 06:43 [#00750189]
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Obviously, most white Aussies are born of British criminal ancestory :D
And everyone knows that criminals have the best sense of humour in Britain :D
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 06:45 [#00750194]
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I think most British people ARE ok, it's just large groups of drunken British men who are wankers. I suppose it's the same with any nationality. Unfortunately though, we have a tendency to travel to other countries in these groups for various reasons (football matches, stag nights, whatever) and as such make a really bad name for ourselves.
I also recently met some Irish guys. Although they said they had nothing against me personally, they said that as a rule they hated the English for their imperialist ways and for their past occupation of Ireland.
It was difficult for me to persuage them that I in no way condone any wrong-doings my country has performed in the past.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-06-21 06:46 [#00750197]
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hahahha so true, were all from convict blood over here. watch your wallets getting off the plane if you come over here
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-21 06:48 [#00750202]
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haha wierd Irish guys....most of the Irish peeps I meet are more concerned about going for a pint than moaning about imperialist rule.
Who cares what view the rest of the world have of us?
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 06:52 [#00750209]
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What other people think of my nationality has never really concerned me before. But now that I have spent time abroad, it really matters! People's preconceptions of you can be really important and can result in hostility/extreme friendliness depending on the situation! It's also interesting I suppose to know what stereotypes other people view us Brits with.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-21 06:54 [#00750212]
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I am a scouser...I experience all that shit just moving about in my own country...it didn't bother me, then it did, now it doesn't again. If people are too ignorant to see me as an individual then fuck them.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-06-21 06:59 [#00750216]
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It sounds to me that when you're thinking "British" your just thinking "English"
The Welsh, Scottish and Irish are a class of their own IMO.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 07:05 [#00750223]
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Why are they a class of their own? In modern Britain how are we any different in reality?
What irritates me is when Irish, Welsh or Scottish people treat me with contempt because of England's colonial/imperial past. In what way was I a part of that? My family is working class, and the working classes of England were treated just as abominably by the ruling classes as were the working classes of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
Still, I have met a lot of upper class English people in my time and I treat them as individuals just as I do with any other group of people. Just because their "ancestors" treated my "ancestors" like shit doesn't mean we can't be civil to one another, or even become friends. It pisses me off so much when people refuse to see good in me just because I was born in England. For fuck's sake.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-21 07:06 [#00750225]
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Good people with bad teeth!
I love Brits, I'm of English descent and I want to move there, I don't like North America.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-06-21 07:09 [#00750230]
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If you've ever been you'll know
I'm not saying we're any better or worse we're just different, more in touch with our roots if you may. When you look at britain, you shouldn't just think England but think of Britain for what it is, 4 countrys united by law and seperated by football =oD
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 07:13 [#00750234]
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Maybe you're right p0g0. England is such a mongrel nation it's difficult to even know where our roots are - I for one am made up of multiple nationalities.
I have been to Ireland, Wales and Scotland on many occasions, and of course there are many differences. But I would also say that there is a huge cultural gulf between the North and South of England - Northerners and Southerners appear almost foreign to each other. And I suspect that the Cornish feel very detached from the rest of England too.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-21 07:22 [#00750241]
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There is no such thing as English in a 'pure' race sense we are British. We are the mongrel of Europe. We embrace and celebrate the differences between each other. Diversity has always been our strength. Our liberal but fair attitude has always made us popular throughout the world. More tea vicar, Anyone for tennis?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 07:44 [#00750257]
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i'm english so this thrread it not rreally forr me to post in. but i do get the imprression that most otherr countrries think we arre arrogant. and well it's trrue. most brritish people arre borrn with it. i don't mean in everry asspect of life just ourr attitude towarrds the rrest of the worrld.
but does this not go forr all countrries.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-06-21 08:05 [#00750277]
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how many r's do you think you've typed since you've been on the board?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 08:07 [#00750281]
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about double the amount of someone with the same amount of posts as me.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 08:08 [#00750283]
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i said nearrly. but rreally thats so stupid, it could be miles off.
no idea
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-06-21 08:22 [#00750289]
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you gonna count them ?
one by one =op
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 08:28 [#00750291]
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don't include us Scottish folk in the same vein as Brits. I don't consider myself as British
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-06-21 08:43 [#00750306]
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Chimmery chim chimery charoo. Sweep your chimney Govnah? Five pense on the foot and i dont mind the soot.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-21 08:46 [#00750311]
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Brittania Waves The Rules:
One of the highest mortality rates in europe.
Highest pre-adult birth rate in eu.
Biggest drug and alcohol usage in eu.
Longest working hours of eu nations
1 in 3 adults are functionally illiterate and or innumerate.
A huge under-class of lumpen, apathetic, docile and aggressive peons whose only purpose in their otherwise meaningless lives is to reproduce even more lumpen, apathetic, docile and aggressive peons and to ruin any last vestige of decenct human interaction and community in a rampant orgy of anti-social behaviour.
Ruled by un-elected disfunctional in-bred family of Germans and their associates (90% of land is owned by 1% of population).
Crap food (biggest consumers of ready meals, sweets, fizzy drink etc, etc,.)
Most state monitored nation ON EARTH!
... but at least we're not Americans, eh?
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-21 08:50 [#00750315]
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Britain is full of people who moan a lot, but do fuck all to change anything.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-06-21 08:54 [#00750318]
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CHIM CHIMINY, CHIM CHIMINY CHIM CHIM CHEREE A SWEEP IS AS LUCKY AS LUCKY CAN BE CHIM CHIMINY, CHIM CHIMINY CHIM CHIM CHEROO GOOD LUCK WILL RUB OFF WHEN HE SHAKES HANDS WITH YOU CHIM CHIMINY CHIM CHIM CHEREE, CHIM CHEROO RUM DIDDLY-DIDDLY-DIDDLY RUM DIDDLE-DIE RUM DIDDLY-DIDDLY- DIDDLY RUM DIDDLE-DIE ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTS, COMICAL POEMS SUITABLE FOR THE OCCASION, EXTEMPORIZED AND THOUGHT UP BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-21 08:56 [#00750320]
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the brits i've met seemed pretty decent to me...in fact much more decent to many people i know
i think you cant generalize but if i had to i'd say there are many more nice people than the other ones
actually the general impression would be that the brits seem a bit shy to me :)
hehe how about that
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 08:57 [#00750322]
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but you arre Brritish techincally. maybe i'd rratherr just be called English
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-06-21 09:04 [#00750325]
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Talk like innit mush as fuck.. ooohh.... I'm Henry the 8th, I am Henry the 8th, I am, I am I got married to the widow next door She's been maried seven times before And eveyone was an Henry She wouldn't top a Willie nor a Sam I'm her eight old man, I'm Henry Henry the 8th I am I am Henry the 8th I am. Second verse, same as the first ... Come on everybody sing along.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 09:04 [#00750326]
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I'm not sure how relevant this is to your post, mc_303. I started the thread off by talking about the behaviour of Brits abroad, so I'll say it anyway...
I hate to say it, but although as a Scotsman you may feel different to an Englishman, the difference isn't so great. The Scottish national football team played the Lithuanian team a couple of weeks back, so there were loads of Scottish football fans here. And they were just as drunk, lairy, aggressive as any English hooligans. In fact, a lot of them were total wankers and they smashed up a hotel in the city.
Very "British" behaviour, and certainly not exclusively English.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-06-21 09:08 [#00750332]
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Talk like innit mush as fuck.. ooohh.... I'm Henry the 8th, I am Henry the 8th, I am, I am I got married to the widow next door She's been maried seven times before And eveyone was an Henry She wouldn't top a Willie nor a Sam I'm her eight old man, I'm Henry Henry the 8th I am I am Henry the 8th I am. Second verse, same as the first ... Come on everybody its easy.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-06-21 09:13 [#00750338]
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Spot on analysis it seems. :-/
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 09:13 [#00750339]
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cool cool. i don't give a shit about football yobs as the vast majority are tossers, i'm just sayin that I feel Scottish. Maybe its somethin to do with the fact that we are swamped with English TV and the news bangin on about the England football team. Also I worked for BT and about 70% of the customers I dealt with felt uneasy with me dealing with their accounts as I had a Scottish accent, and I received a fair share of idiots calling me "scottish cunt" or "you Scotch wanker". I don't dislike the English individually, but as a nation it is a pretty arrogant one. othing personal know whit am sayin
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 09:17 [#00750345]
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on holiday i had exactly the same trreatment frrom Scottish people. i'm not making this up to prrove a point. this is trrue.
forr a long time it gave me a bit of a bee in my bonet about Scottish people, but i came to rrealise that it was just them, they i can't link everry otherr Scottish perrson to them.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 09:19 [#00750348]
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scottish people fuckin rock and any naysayers can bite my hairy banger ya sassanech bastards that yees are!!!!!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 09:19 [#00750349]
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but you arre rreally cool guy, i don't forr a second that you would trreat me like that and i forr surre would not trreat you like that, orr anyone forr that matterr Scottish orr otherrwise.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 09:20 [#00750352]
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I know what you're saying.....
It's weird coming from the North of England too..... in many ways, I feel a greater affinity to people from Scotland than to people from the South of England. Everything's so South-centric, so we end up feeling pretty forgotten. Plus, I know far more Scots than Southerners, and also Newcastle is a lot closer to Edinburgh than it is to London.
That's not to say I have anything against Southerners individually, just that I don't know all that many, and I also dislike the fact that everything is concentrated in the South East.
There's also the small matter of meeting a bunch of rugby playing toffs from the South here in Vilnius the other week who proceeded to take the piss out of me for being a "stupid Northerner". Wankers.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 09:20 [#00750353]
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hey man, relax I was just jokin!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 09:20 [#00750355]
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think that*
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 09:21 [#00750358]
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that was kind of an extention to my last post.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 09:22 [#00750361]
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you arre frrom Newcastle ey. have you hearrd of Darlington, its a small town nearr Middlesbourrgh (sp?)
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-06-21 09:23 [#00750363]
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but if you go back to ecands post you get shit from north to south, county to county, town to town, stree..........etc
it makes no difference where your from there will always be people who just plain a bunch of cunts
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 09:24 [#00750364]
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yeah mate. Don't get me wrong. all the peeps that were offensive to me were from the south. Especially Essex and Kent and Surrey. Counties like that, full of toffy-nosed dogjobbys are the problem. All the Geordies, Scousers, Mancs etc were really pleasant to deal with. and some Cockneys aswell. I know it might have seemed like a sweeping generalisation. I'm sure you will agree though that TV portrays London and the south like the centre of the universe. Northerners get a raw deal, but I wouldnt worry as they are the friendliest and most down to earth of Englanders. Aww what the hell, we are all people! Some people are cool, some arenae! Doesnt matter where you are from! :)
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-21 09:26 [#00750365]
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exactly! PS. I like your photo. Is that what thon Phobia geezer looks like then?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-21 09:28 [#00750366]
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in England it's fucking stupid, the south get all the benefits.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 09:28 [#00750367]
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Yeah man, I know Darlington. Been there a few times. Quite a big town, anyone from the North East would know it.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-06-21 09:30 [#00750370]
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"A huge under-class of lumpen, apathetic, docile and aggressive peons whose only purpose in their otherwise meaningless lives is to reproduce even more lumpen, apathetic, docile and aggressive peons and to ruin any last vestige of decenct human interaction and community in a rampant orgy of anti-social behaviour."
Yep.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-06-21 09:30 [#00750371]
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You're right man. There are cool people and wankers wherever you go.
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