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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-19 07:39 [#00747540]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2999780.stm
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-06-19 07:44 [#00747545]
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Clic.
The fun never stops !
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handoverthecart
on 2003-06-19 07:45 [#00747547]
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holy shit, i don't know anything about the laws, but i'm sure that destroying someones computer for an mp3 file is illegal. that seems like blowing up a kids house because he stole a candy-bar or soemthing.
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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2003-06-19 07:46 [#00747549]
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Utah... Figures.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 07:47 [#00747553]
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Ha ha, he's a composer himself. Talk about vested interests!
I'm not worried- I know the good guy hackers will come up with something that can circumvent anything the evil government dorks can come up with :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 07:53 [#00747559]
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Ah yeah Jonesy, watched "Once upon a time in the Midlands" last night, Shane Meadow's film. Really enjoyable, I don't normally rate films with soppy "feel good" endings, but this was class.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-19 07:56 [#00747566]
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I was disappointed with it. It was a bit Full Monty.
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uzim
on 2003-06-19 07:59 [#00747571]
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he looks in a petulant frenzy. i'd expect him to peel off his fake skin anytime and uncover his horrifying alien body, and kill everyone.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:01 [#00747576]
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hahahahahaha he DOES look like he wants to kill everyone on the board!!!!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:14 [#00747599]
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this shit is crazy!!!!
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-06-19 08:15 [#00747603]
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oh man.
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:23 [#00747618]
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"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Mr Hatch said.
"If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines."
He sounds like Sarah Connor in the mental hospital at the beginning of T2
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-19 08:25 [#00747619]
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idiots like this are in charge of the most powerful nation in the world? there is no hope.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-19 08:26 [#00747622]
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HARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR hahahaha if they rruin my computerr i will get a plane ticket and stab him and all involved in the neck. hahahahah motherrfuckerrs
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-19 08:28 [#00747624]
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how in the hell are they gonna know the difference between my legal mp3s (ones I made from my own store bought cds) and the ones I've dled from slsk.
???
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-06-19 08:29 [#00747626]
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it's like putting crack in a fruit bowl in every office and wanting to distroy the people who touch it.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-19 08:30 [#00747629]
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they won't. they shoot firrst and ask questions laterr. cunts
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-19 08:39 [#00747646]
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my mate made a good point:
"I wouldn't be saying I'm gonna destroy the Notis' (Nerds of the Internet) PCs.. The first f'in place they need to start w/ to fight piracy is China and Russia. The amount of media stolen by those two countries alone is far worse than all the US downloaders combined X 10................."
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-19 08:40 [#00747649]
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don't know if I totally agree, but there's def a prob with software piracy in china.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:41 [#00747651]
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"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws "
- Senator Orrin Hatch
"There's no excuse for circumventing international treaties and invading other countries without the consent of the UN"
- The World outside of the U.S.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-19 08:42 [#00747658]
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whats next... linking scud rockets to your IP adress?
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-19 08:43 [#00747659]
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word.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:43 [#00747660]
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s'true, russia, china and the mediterranean countries steal sooooo much media it's unreal. Crack down on them before you have a go at the people who have a small proportion of their music collection illegally...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-19 08:45 [#00747667]
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us government are fucking power hungry hypocrites
chew on my asshair orrin hatch!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-19 08:46 [#00747668]
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is it a crrime forr me to click "yes" and forr me to d/l a file that someone rripped and made available to me?
if it is, i think its stupid.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747672]
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i think what we really need is an all-out nuclear holocaust. in this way the world will be rid of all its problems, including, but not limited to, internet piracy. =)
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747673]
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plah they should make cds cheaper... fucking music industry.. and if it wasnt for soulseek and all id never buy as much cds as i do now
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747674]
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they just assume that because the major label industry is doing badly is because everyone is downloading whole lp's and burning them. not true. for one, the reason the major labels are doing so bad is because they release 14 year old TRL crap. second, i dont remember myself EVER downloading a whole lp and burning it without intention to purchase said lp. i think most people dl isolated songs for comps, to decide if something is worth buying, etc.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-19 08:49 [#00747676]
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hey stop stealing americas idea.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-19 08:50 [#00747678]
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no norr have i
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-06-19 08:51 [#00747679]
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Pfff! What a hypocrite twat! I can't imagine a member of the government would pay serious attention to this.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-19 08:52 [#00747682]
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i think thats the case with most people. since the easy availability of music, i have gotten into a TON more musicians i never would've heard any other way, becuase they dont get mtv or radio airplay. we gotta have our version of radio!!!! i mean, i NEVER wouldve heard bogdan raczynski's music if i hadnt dl'ed something. and im SO glad i did.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:52 [#00747683]
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corrupted-grrl, why do you have a pic of some hippy-dippy dredlockheaded member of i mother earth in your avatar?
that's sooooo mid-90s, yo!
but jokes aside, why is our country responsible for so many musical atrocities?!?
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 08:58 [#00747693]
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what the music industry in the u.s. seems to fail to realize is that it is the shitty quality of mainstream music which ultimately contributes to people pirating stuff like 50 Cent, etc. en masse - if most of it wasn't of the 'flavour of the month' variety which you toss away after you've gotten bored of the no-longer cool top-40 hit, sales would be far better.
just look at someone like Radiohead - HTTT got leaked a good couple months before proper release yet they're still selling by the boatload regardless, because the music is worth owning.
another problem is prices currently being charged for CDs. it seems that the industry wants to fight piracy by, of all things, increasing prices of CDs - talk about giving the massess an inscentive to fuck buying CDs ever again even moreso than before!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:04 [#00747705]
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Perhaps the real reason large labels pants it about p2p is precisely because it allows people to hear new music... it means their relationship with the media/advertising doesn't really count for a lot. Before, they could pretty much dictate what people heard (and hence knew about), now it's almost "word of mouth" around the world.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:09 [#00747718]
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radiohead sold 300,000 in the US last week.. i'm sure they'd have sold 600,000 if not for piracy. it's nice to think that "good music will be bought" but many of us know from experience that that isn't true. a lot of friends or people i know have cd-r's of radiohead and not "the real thing." in fact, a ton of people i know--literally dozens of people--don't even buy cd's anymore, they just download songs and burn them as albums or as parts of a mix cd.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 09:11 [#00747720]
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oh no! think of the consequences on the u.s. economy - all those underpriviledged starving underpaid & overworked media whore advertisers suddenly out of their job! =(
it's all about maintaining the status-quo. the world's been always like that, but thankfully, change ultimately always proves an unstoppable fact of life.
i couldn't be more glad it's becoming more word of mouth. it's about time we stop being spoonfed by MTV and Top-40 FM radio
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:14 [#00747724]
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"i couldn't be more glad it's becoming more word of mouth. it's about time we stop being spoonfed by MTV and Top-40 FM
radio"
I know, I'm sure IDM and related genres will become more popular as more people hear them via p2p networks etc.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-19 09:15 [#00747728]
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that's trrue.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 09:18 [#00747732]
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i mean, seriously, in the good ol' days (before any of us here even existed), it was all principally word-of-mouth (though the press played a far more significant role in making or breaking a band than it does now), and so bands which were actually decent (the beatles, rolling stones before rehab, pink floyd, black sabbath before ronnie dio, etc.) sold by the boatloads - though i guess that hardly explains the rise of ABBA, or the Bee Gees for that matter. i guess once disco came along, the world started on a slippery slope down to hell.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:19 [#00747734]
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for every Beatles there was a Love, for every Led Zeppelin a Can. you get me?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:20 [#00747737]
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for every John Denver a Nick Drake...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-19 09:23 [#00747741]
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the Bee Gees !!!!
Fucking rrocked
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-06-19 09:23 [#00747742]
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true, but in terms of the quality of music, there was a far smaller disparity between led zeb and can than there now exists between, say, creed and sigur ros.
nowadays there's just a lot more crap that becomes mainstream simply because that's the only stuff most people get exposed to.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:27 [#00747748]
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all i'm saying is people are very selective with their money.. now that they can "sample" music (ie: burn it and never buy it, let's be honest.. a lot of people are like this) they can explore "weirder" music w/o any risk. that unfortunately does not necessarily mean these artists like sigur ros are getting any money. people don't go out to the record store to learn about the album leaf or telefon tel aviv, they go to their computers.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-06-19 09:29 [#00747750]
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Overheard in computer store:
"We can add in the C4 explosive option for only $20 more..."
"er ... what? no thanks..."
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:39 [#00747771]
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im not worried
i dont see this ever happening. it goes against too many laws. Privacy laws, and property laws.
But even if it DID happen, I would worry.
Why? Because all the really good computor people dont get jobs in the US govt, making shit pay. Theyd go to some private company. And these are the people that will save us. They will be able to protect computors, and probably, even backfire it to the government computors.
It will be nasty... but hey, dont fuck with the hax0rz!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-19 09:39 [#00747773]
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I wouldnt*
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-06-19 09:46 [#00747781]
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dude that ain't i mother earth
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-19 09:53 [#00747787]
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I hardly buy CDs anymore as I am too careless and scratch them so it isn't worth it. With MP3 I can download at a whim and burn to disc and make replacements.
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