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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:06 [#00742180]
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I got my copy in the mail yesterday and I wish I hadn't opened it. Does anyone else agree that the two noise tracks are awful? I'm not a big fan of noise music, but I am familiar with VSnares and ktpa1&2 are just shit in comparison. This just my opinion and my expression of my disapointment. Sorry if this has already been discused. Anyone else have an opinion?
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-15 22:21 [#00742190]
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All noise is equally shit.
Track 1 is perfect hardcore. I love it.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:24 [#00742192]
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I can dig track 1, but harldy worth the 10 bucks I paid for it. I think I'll make noise and see if people pay for it...
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-06-15 22:26 [#00742193]
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I don't think I'll even bother listening to this in record shops...
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:27 [#00742194]
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rdj just fucking with your head, or am I holding the man above his latest work?
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:29 [#00742196]
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If you haven't heard it listen to it. He may be fucking with my head, but he's the one who's gonna lose money because of it, unless his next release is actually good. Eithor way I will be downloading it first.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 22:31 [#00742197]
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why is everybody making such a big deal about this release? (these countless smojphace threads) we knew it was going to be one remix and two noise tracks, so those who didn't like it and bitched over the fact they pre-ordered it on warp shouldn't be suprised, you knew what was coming. anyway there's enough of these threads already, no nead to start a new one.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:32 [#00742198]
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I had no idea what the other two tracks were, I've been too busy to check the MB. I just preordered.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-06-15 22:33 [#00742199]
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this album is shit, but it doesn't surprise me. adds more fuel to the fire for the "noise music is not music" argument. the first track is alright, but no, not worth the money. i hope he doesn't make an entire album of this shit, but if he does, oh well.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:40 [#00742205]
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I won't be buying it if he does make a whole noise album. I should have just bought a new copy of SAWII, mines all scratched up.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:43 [#00742207]
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to some peepz NOISE = MUSIC, i am just not one of those peepz that buys or BUYS that.....ehheheh
i told my BF long ago that i wouldn't be buying this, although i'm gonna listen to it at some point.
i was NOT happy with 26 remixes.....i think RDJ did it JUST for the CASH, PUN intended......ehehheheh
last release i was happy with was DRUQKS....i know not everyone was happy with that, but at least it wasn't REMIXED old tracks
not everything RDJ does is GOLD, artists are allowed to falter, i just HOPE he has s'more left in him that he'll release and i wanna buy!
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2003-06-15 22:48 [#00742210]
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...I allways thought noise was a term we used to describe the sounds we don't want to hear...
don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the artistic merit that goes towards trying to be different from the mainstream, but with so many of us being raised though what would be called mainstream* (*compared to noise) that most of us see it as being lazy or just plain boring,
-this is just my take on noise
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 22:51 [#00742211]
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26 is wonderful, i don't really care if warp or richard did it just for the cash. they deserve it for the quality music. the name is '26 mixes for cash' so at least their honest about it ..or have a sense of humor. I'm very grateful what that they digged up all these mixes for 2 disc release. That's something i only wished for, never expected it to happen. So warp or richard, i say thank you and enjoy the money. i'll enjoy the music
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-06-15 22:52 [#00742212]
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"I'm not a big fan of noise music, but I am familiar with VSnares and ktpa1&2 are just shit in comparison."
What does VSnares have to do with noise music?
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:53 [#00742216]
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it's pretty noisy.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 22:56 [#00742219]
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*nods*
i dunno if i'd say it's lazy, or just tryin' to be different........but it's just NOT my thing. i can listen ONCE maybe, twice if there is some melody.....but just - IMO random noises (like some of VSnares moosiq) is not something i wanna listen to for pleasure, or mind expansion or whatever your thing is......i have to have a melody......somewhere in there
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 22:58 [#00742220]
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26 mixes is full of melodies :}
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-06-15 23:02 [#00742222]
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26 mixes was well excellent. i'm from the camp of people who like their music melodic. most of aphexs shit does this for me, but these noise tracks seem lazy and inhuman. some people might like this, might think its "avant garde", but i think its pretentious bullshit.
and don't call me closed minded because i don't care for it.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2003-06-15 23:03 [#00742224]
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d00d, vsnares has NOTHING to do with noise music OR with this shitphace release.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:05 [#00742226]
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soo..
pardon my ignorance, but i've never heard any Smojface. is it noise music, like Merzbow?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-06-15 23:05 [#00742227]
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vsnares is definitely not "noise music" in the merzbow sense, but it is strange, metallic, "noisy" music. theres a large difference between the two, but i think thats what he was getting at.
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-15 23:06 [#00742229]
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No discussion.
Smoj tracks 2, 3 = Noise, not music, boring, anyone can do it.
Smoj track 1 = awesome ragga hardcore, but not worth the money of an EP.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-06-15 23:08 [#00742232]
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god i miss the saw vol2 aphex twin. atleast the music was abstract and beautiful, as opposed to merely abstract.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2003-06-15 23:10 [#00742236]
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i just miss a goddamn brilliant release like "i care because you do"...where the feck did our old playfully-evil richard d. went???????
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 23:11 [#00742237]
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you are comparing a 3 track release to SAW2, which consists of 2CDs ...right
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:11 [#00742238]
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hahaha
i guess it's so controversial that basic questions go unanswered.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:13 [#00742242]
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i wasn't talking about 26 remixes D00D!
music is subjective, just cos i didn't think it was worth the money i paid for it, shouldn't lessen your enjoyment. i'm stating my OPINION......which is just as valid as anyone's.
disc one of 26 remixes sounded DATED, and was just mediocre IMO......the second disc was a lot better, but in the end i've listened twice and not gone back.....does that mean i'm bored with it.....maybe.....i does mean that it wasn't like druqks which i couldn't stop listening to.....cos it blew me away....or SAWII which is NOT old or dated sounding
i DO NOT d/l and burn CD's i buy REAL copies of them, if i think they are worth it. his latested (with the dumb title to boot) just isn't worth the 10 bucks or whatever he's charging......again IMO.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-06-15 23:13 [#00742243]
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Well, it happens to everyone who makes music for over a decade
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 23:14 [#00742245]
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arrgghhhh quit your bitching people, its a fucking 3 track release with 2 noise experiment and one remix. god damn it get OVER IT
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 23:15 [#00742249]
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sorry....didn't want to seem rude. i'm just a little pissed off
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:16 [#00742251]
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no worries.
i'm just downright confused!
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:18 [#00742252]
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My definition of the release = track1=Good track2=shit track3=shit
Also I don't mean that VSnares is just noise, there is much more to it than that in there case, but being unfamiliar with noise "music" that was the closest reference I could think of.
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-15 23:21 [#00742255]
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Oh VERY fucking ORIGINAL >:(
Everyone agrees with you, no need to repeat it m8.
And I'm sorry for being so rude. We're just having a topic where everyone agrees with everyone. No point anglematic substantial yo?
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:22 [#00742257]
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sheeeeeesh whats wrong with expressing an opinion O_o ?!!?!? don't take it personally.......
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-06-15 23:23 [#00742260]
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FUCK YOU MOTHA FUCKA NO OPINIONS ALOOWWWWED
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 23:24 [#00742261]
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disc 1 of 26 mixes sounds dated because well it's a collection of old tracks and you should take it for what it is. disc2 has bit more of his recent drill'n'bass style, maybe you like his earlier material less? ...well except for SAW2 which you seem to love. I don't really care if music sounds dated if the music is good. that's my personal opinion ofcourse.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2003-06-15 23:24 [#00742262]
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you know what`s the irony of this whole damn thing?
richard himself is probably laughing out hard....this is prolly one of his many ways to piss us all off for liking his muzac.
between the blörk fans and myself, i find no true difference right now.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:26 [#00742264]
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thanks for the RDJ history lesson...
i'm happy you like what you like!
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-15 23:30 [#00742267]
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I just came to realize that Richard could let Bjork do the B-side as a revenge on us AFX fans!!!
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:31 [#00742270]
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People get a little pissy about other peoples taste in music. It seems that by me stating my opinions that other people feel I need to shut up simply because they don't agree? If don't like noise "music" or VSnares or Smojphace or whatever, then I don't like it. If someone doesn't like that then that is there problem, and I don't feel that I need to be insulted simply upon the basis of my opinion being different.
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-15 23:31 [#00742271]
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Even if someone doesn't like someone else's opinion, it's still his opinion and he has the right to have that opinion.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:34 [#00742273]
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*nods*
some people don't respect others opinions thats why they have to argue to prove how wrong you are. sad but true.
i've changed my mind about some stuff (musically i mean ie AE)....but someone telling me i'm wrong about what i like never swayed me, and as i stated earlier my opinion is just as valid as any other RDJ fan!
btw.....if i were face to face with RDJ, i'd tell him the same thing.....straight UP!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:36 [#00742276]
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ummmm where did i say it wasn't right to have one's OWN opinion.....NO WHERE
he was patronizing to say the least, i don't appreciate it! from anyone!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-15 23:43 [#00742282]
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i wasn't patronizing you ...if it's me you are refering to
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-15 23:48 [#00742286]
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Patronize people who attempt patronizing you!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-15 23:50 [#00742289]
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wow you're just full of nice things to say to people........thanks it's appreciated!
good to know AB!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-15 23:59 [#00742302]
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I really like the first track, I had it on repeat for about 5 listens and I wanted to run up a wall, but I can't because I'd fall. The noise tracks are total shit of course. I wonder if there's any of those ''devil faces'' like in Equation...
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Archrival
on 2003-06-16 00:02 [#00742305]
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Archrivals Smojphace review:
track 1: Could have been so fucking good (just like that windowlicker remix).
It just sounds lazy, like preset AFX drill n base with not one little melody. I mean im allright only if I get a few stabs or something like that second remix on the first men release. Anyway decent summer material, me really like ragga n the bug so its all good ;) decent/good. 3 out of 5 (but its sad that it easily could have been a 4,5 out of 5 if he just put some time into the mix and added some melody and more changes/ambitious shit a la Drukqs.
track 2: impossible to listen to (this is from a person who actually like Merzbow, Hecker and Haswell etc). Im glad I got something new to terrorize my enemies n neighbours with tho. Matter of fact im gonna call up some one right now at random, playin that shit a max volume right now hehe ;)
3: arrghh this is some shit noize, look at the above comment...
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-16 00:04 [#00742313]
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Thanks catwoman, actually I meant that you shouldn't get offended by people who are agressive when they don't like someone's right to express an opinion. It only means they are irritated, and the best move would be to ignore their anger until they soothe down. They don't want to patronize you, they just get irritated by one particular subject (in this case: Smojphace EP which failed their expectations) and it's all ok while you don't talk about it, cos that's when opinions become outlawed :)
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-16 00:04 [#00742314]
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"Im glad I got something new to terrorize my enemies n neighbours with"
exactly what i think :D
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