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How someone makes music as long as it's good. Do you agree ? I'll make the question more difficult: I mean does it affect you when you go to a gig when you know he's playing on a laptop ? Or don't you care ? Or using random settings in songs. Would it affect you when autechre would tell you that half of their songs are made just pressing a few random buttons ? |
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no, if it sounds good it's fine with me. i don't mind to go to a gig and it's all prerecorded, so long if it's great quality music/sound/decoration/lights and there is a nice atmosphere i'll go to it. |
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i still respect more people who do everything themselves than people who sample to death and steal beats melodies and use presets etc... no, i cannot say i don't care at all! i also respect more music made by people i find more respectable, like Peter Gabriel... (Autechre doesn't seem very sympathetic from the interviews i've read, but wtf) i would definitely not buy, nor even listen to, any band i'd discover was neo-nazi!! |
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Mostly I'm just interested in the altered state of consciousness produced by weird symmetry. And using music as a weird analogy for something else, like evolution or something. I'm also interested in the process of being able to create anything I want. Computers can be a great tool, and even if it appears at first that something takes a few buttons to work, there's so much culturally accumulated thought behind computers. Computers operate in a heirarchy structure where complex stuff (1's and 0's) can make up something else, and you can forget about the complex stuff while working with the "something else". |
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Oh, you have said something important. I mean, does it affect you when listening to some music, when you know the artist is unpleasant, not caring fir their fans, coloured or, like uzim said, neo-nazistic ? |
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i don't know rreally |
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"being able to create everything" - are you sure ? i mean do YOU have to power to create everything ? |
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i kinda expect to just see a dude on an apple laptop when i go to an electronic show but i would also expect them to put on a SHOW. otherwise, whats the point of playing 'live.' if they are just going to sit there in the dark, barely moving around, why not just do a radio broadcast? i guess i'm just saying, its possible to do a good live electronic performance, unfortunately many electronic artists just don't. |
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i was just wondering about this today when i listened to confield again. at times i was thinkin 'man, i've been pretty fucking stupid to believe people when they said this wasn't random noise'. of course ae do clever programming which is beyond my imagination, but at one point, nobody will hear the difference anymore. i'm not saying i dislike seemingly or actual random sounds, as i like most of confield (and other abstract music), but i wonder how much longer they'll get away with it. the first bits of draft sounded even 'worse' |
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okay, i tell you all why i'm asking that. my friend told me yesterday about a dj, i don't remember the name, who used vinyls and turntables as sequencers. he made small cuts into some vinyls, so the needle jumped always into the same place. so he just made himself a nice sampler... know i thought, i could do that the same. but why ? i mean i would cut all my vinyls, destroy them, and when i would play live with it the needle could hang in one point and the whole miks would collapse. so why not use just a normal sampler or a sampler software for it. nobody would really care... i think |
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that's kinda like the idea about CGI in movies. at some point the special effects will be so good you can't detect them. then, nobody can appreciate them because they are invisible. |
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yeah but in movies you don't have such a wide range of making something random... maybe just visualisations... |
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hm... maybe some more ? |
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STOP THE BAD LUCK |
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what ? |
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it was on post 13 beforre i prrevented the coming terrrrorr |
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laptop v.s. live is not an issue with me, it all depends on the music being played. |
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thanks mate, you have saved the day |
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nooooooooooooooooooo i saved frriday the 13th, i'm going to burrn in hell |
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for example ?? |
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There is a lot you can do with software based performance to add a live element to what you are doing. For one thing you can do real time processing on certain tracks, rather than have them automated. You can incorporate theremin or proximity based processing or do use some sort of real time remixing software to do reinterpretations of your tracks. I don't think there are too many electronic musicians that just kind of hit play but I could be wrong. |
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I think it's probably quite difficult to do the music that alot of the artists i listen to do live, so if they have found have a found a way to do it and it sounds good then i really don't mind about the method. |
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sure, but your own satisfaction is bigger, when you have done something really hard witout help of some pc. |
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