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i am dgoHn
from outta fucking space (Yemen) on 2003-06-13 09:06 [#00739298]
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'You could, if you had Richard D. James' notoriety.'
what a cunt rdj is.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-13 09:09 [#00739303]
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Agreed.
I used to purchase an RDJ release without hearing any of it because I knew it would be quality...these days I am not too sure. I felt slightly let down by Drukqs, disappointed by 26 mixes and by the sounds of things the situation is getting worse...
oh well...
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2003-06-13 09:11 [#00739305]
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don't worry, he'll surprise us when you least expect it!
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-06-13 09:17 [#00739310]
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Sample available from Here
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:18 [#00739312]
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i think the heavy weights of IDM will go too far up thier own asses... and we will see a new generation of producers emerge.
I liked Drukqs... but 26 remixs was kinda boring draft 730 isnt anything new do you know squarepusher was ok, but just more dsp wankery Geogaddi was great... but unless they evolve in thier next record... it will be a shame
i dont know... it just seems like the excitement isnt in the big boys anymore
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 09:25 [#00739322]
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talk about aphex and merzbow live was bollocks though wsn't it - he preforms with russell haswell though doesn't he
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:29 [#00739334]
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it astounds me to this day how people can slag 26 mixes... it shouldn't have been new to anyone!!!!! a bunch of remixes from the mid-90s is hardly indicative of his current direction.
anyway, i'll prolly pass on this EP now. thanks spikee.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-06-13 09:33 [#00739338]
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I listened to it...
OK, I will definitely not bother.
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diablo
on 2003-06-13 09:35 [#00739340]
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No one has really discussed the main track here. OK it's a remix, -but is it a good track or what? What kind of beats are on it? Is it all dancehall'd up?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:36 [#00739342]
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the clip i just listened to sounds like drukqs programming w/ the a capella from the bug track.. i liked it but it's not essential. i'm not a record collector, just a music fan.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-13 09:38 [#00739346]
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I didn't mean I was disappointed with the tracks, there are some that I really like. I meant it felt like a lazy release...he could have included a few more new remixes on there and got rid of some of the shitter stuff like the DMX Crew remix.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 09:42 [#00739348]
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the dmx crew one is one of the best imo - with all this stuff about smojphace- only 1 of yos has heard it and you've already decided you don't like it
what a bunch of ignorant sheep - can't you make up your own minds ?
i'm sure it's a bit more than just some old noise and i heard one of the rephlex lot dj the bug remix track and it's unbelivabley good and aggro
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diablo
on 2003-06-13 09:44 [#00739352]
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just listened to the clip... I want to hear more.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-13 09:44 [#00739354]
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I haven't decided one way or the other yet, but I am going to download it before I part with my cash.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:44 [#00739355]
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agreed, i was gutted when the warp-promised "30+ tracks" became 26, but think about it logistically: there wasn't really enough room on two discs for over 30 tracks. but more importantly, some artists wouldn't clear the tracks (ie: beck, who's mad at richard for not doing a charity show he organized) or couldn't find the masters. i would've liked to have heard this mysterious lemonheads "remix" (some old track he gave them) and the remix he supposedly did for craig david, but maybe richard lost them. you know how unorganized he is: spilling orange juice on his master tapes, picking the first 2 songs on a tape for the bonus tracks on the reissued SOSW, etc.
anyway, besides the above problems, if anyone is to be blamed for the "lazy" idea--which just got me 26 remixes ranging from "ok" to "amazing" in my collection for under $17--it should be warp, not richard. warp were the ones who made richard release a DOUBLE album (drukqs) and i'm sure this was their idea too. richard seems pretty content releasing very little (MEN1, MEN2) or nothing at all.
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i am dgoHn
from outta fucking space (Yemen) on 2003-06-13 09:45 [#00739356]
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astrid-gil-botn ...you haven't heard them then?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:45 [#00739360]
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i'm saying i'll download it instead of buy it. as usual, if i really enjoy the download, i'll buy it. if it had received better reviews (2 ppl on this thread have it) i might've bought it w/o hearing it first.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 09:47 [#00739363]
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from what i know it was released cos some other company was going to release a comp without asking afx's permission -so warp took it upon themselves to do it - i think it's fucking good value for money - and it's never been marketed as a new album .
you lot really are a bunch of pedantic moaners sometimes, christ !
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:48 [#00739368]
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yea prolly peace frog (a la Plaid). agreed, it's a great value for the money and as i say everytime i talk about this collection, this is not new material. you're the pedantic moaner though.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 09:48 [#00739369]
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what the other tracks ? no? that's why i'm keeping an open mind and not slagging the thing off before i've even heard them.
cos that's pathetic quite frankly.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-13 09:50 [#00739377]
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It's not often a really agree with you, but on this occassion I agree 100% :P
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 09:53 [#00739386]
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to licence tracks you need permission from the record company or the artist who did the remix to get them - if yu can't you simply can't get them - so that's why the 26 mixes is slightly incomplete I reckon -
as for the craig david thig that was so clearly another bullshit rumour i'm suprised you fell for it
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:54 [#00739387]
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Titsworth: Beck wanted to release the remix to WARP, but Beck's label, not Beck wouldn't do it.
The orange juice thing is a falsehood as well.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 09:55 [#00739389]
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well there you go - my intuition was correct .
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i am dgoHn
from outta fucking space (Yemen) on 2003-06-13 09:56 [#00739391]
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yes. very good. to be open minded is a very worthy quality. i have heard the smojface (whatever it's called) ep. i therefore reserve the right to 'slag it off' until my face turns blue and explodes.
its shit. buy it if want you invaluable mugs.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:56 [#00739392]
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Astrid's right as well - WARP had to literally rush to get 26 mixes out the door as another label was trying to do a compilation of his remixes.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:56 [#00739393]
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"you may be right but you may be wrong!" -chuck berry
asthole: the craig david remix prolly doesn't exist, hence i wrote "supposedly". worth mentioning though!
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 09:58 [#00739396]
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no need to be offensive - just because you are totally wrong ;)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 09:59 [#00739398]
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i'm just kidding you of course! i may very easily be wrong though it's not too common!
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nacmat
on 2003-06-13 09:59 [#00739399]
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I will wait to have it at home
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-06-13 10:01 [#00739404]
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I'm right as I was told this by several reliable, independent sources - this isn't Chinese whispers.
What most fans don't realize is a lot of what gets passed around gets distorted, or journos fabricate bits or take what Richard says jokingly as the god's honest truth.
Richard is also very, very good at marketing himself/his music, and building up a whole mythos around your persona and winding the fans up with fantastic stories makes them hungry for more. It's all part of the Aphex Package, and why he's been more financially successful than his contemporaries who may produce better music.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 10:10 [#00739419]
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It's all part of the Aphex Package, and why he's been more financially successful than his contemporaries who may produce better music.
now that's the tooth!!!
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 12:12 [#00739527]
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i don;t think it's part of the aphex package really - i think it's actually just the media tend to write about how mad he is and how he's got a tank etc .
it's cos they can only ordinarily handle rock music so they can't cope with people like him ..
also i can only think of autechre who make totally different music for different reasons and maybe luke vibert and squarepusher who are in the same league as the aphex twin - they're pretty succesful as well i imagine
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-06-13 12:40 [#00739559]
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I wont buy this record....
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-13 12:56 [#00739567]
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i got it too, found it in a store in amsterdam funny the whole cd is black, like twoism :) i agree that merzbow makes better noise, this seems so forced or something.. i don't know
anyway, it's on the shelf, that was what it was all about :)
and i got a free 3-track 'there there' vinyl today when i picked up HTTT
friday 13th ain't that bad i guess :)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-13 13:07 [#00739578]
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just downloaded from soulseek something like this: afx live @ apollo 2003, support for bjork...
oh my god if this is no fake then this sucks like hell
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-06-13 13:09 [#00739581]
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That sample was badass!!! My Jungle Dj friends are gonna explode when they hear this =)
I got the EP on que on soulseek , this is gonna take forever =(
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-13 13:11 [#00739583]
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do you download the 96 kilo version ?? fake man !! stop it
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uzim
on 2003-06-13 13:12 [#00739584]
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never buy something blindly...
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-06-13 13:13 [#00739585]
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No no , not the Chris Clark EP . This is the real deal with info and cover scans (what cover?) and everything.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 13:32 [#00739591]
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i got that from WATMM, i think its great!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-13 13:36 [#00739593]
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where from ?? do you have the username ?? i can't find it
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-06-13 13:38 [#00739595]
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username is a_mashnote
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-13 13:41 [#00739596]
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hm.. is away
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-06-13 13:45 [#00739599]
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This is the kind of moments when you wich you would have donated money to NIR to get those queing features. =(
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-13 13:49 [#00739602]
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*launches kazaa to find the fuckin files*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-13 14:42 [#00739648]
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I still haven't heard it or looked for it, and I'm not particularly curious. All the Merzbow comparisons have me too lazy to bother... I hate the 'Bow!
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 15:53 [#00739674]
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actually I like it. the bug remix takes a track that is excellent to as good as, yet nice. the noise tracks complement satansornade nicely, thou I have to admit i was a bit let down (mainly through listening to it first thing this morning) but at the same time it is definately nice to have, even if only for the main track..
did anyone get an APC ghostlawns promo with it? I like that more than the AFX disc atm
ps, the bug single is very good and definately worth checking out..
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-06-13 16:04 [#00739683]
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i agree though i find merzbow interesting, it is hardly pleasant listening for my ears.
i'll download it too. if it rocks arse i will buy it on vinyl.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-13 16:07 [#00739686]
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heh i got it just before leaving for work, so i was kinda rushed to listen to it while getting dressed. already listened once, now i'm on kpta2 for the second time.
first listen - a bit dissappointed, even the bug remix didn't strike my fancy, and kpta1 & 2 needed to be analyzed
second listen - enjoying the bug track, 1 & 2 are better
third listen through headphones - enjoying much more, but definately not my fav. afx. the noise is interesting, and i enjoy hearing interesting tracks. for me, it doesn't necessarily need to be music, but rather something that can hold my attention. these tracks do that, but it's not something i'll be listening to very often.
i bought the vinyl b/c i LOVE vinyl. but if you're skeptical, d/l from soulseek first!
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