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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 03:57 [#00737355]
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*shakes head*
We're a peace loving nation
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-06-12 04:07 [#00737358]
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oh my god... this is definatle gonna be on "democracy now" later today. They've definatley gone too far now...
There is a swedish young man there that everyone in this country (except the usual peacehating sons of bitches) want to bring home. What can we do to make Bush & c.o. realize that they're not gonna stop terrorism by being terrorists themselves - violence breeds violence. That's why 9/11 happened in the first place.
This must be Bin Ladens wet dream, the perfect setup for recuiting more pissed off young people.
Hell, if I was asked to take action against that government right now I would probably at least consider it - as long as it doesn't involve human casualties - and that is something I've never even dreamt of doing until now...
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iBAN
from Brisvegas (Australia) on 2003-06-12 04:08 [#00737362]
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typical.... i'm not in the least bit surprised... i feel sorry for americans to have to put up with idiots like bush, though having said that the australian government isn't much better at the moment...
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 04:12 [#00737364]
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"Hell, if I was asked to take action against that government right now I would probably at least consider it - as long as it doesn't involve human casualties - and that is something I've never even dreamt of doing until now... "
Q. What should we be looking for as an early warning of a slide toward fascism?
A disillusionment with representative democracy as a path to change. For example, if the Democratic Party in the United States doesn't elect a candidate who will challenge these policies, I think it would lead an increasing number of people to become disenchanted with normal politics and be more inclined to feel that the only way change can come about is by more extreme political tactics, which in turn would lead the government to feel justified in expanding its powers of control over the citizenry.
There's a good bit on Adbusters site about the slide towards fascism... which that last bit was taken from. Worth a read.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 04:15 [#00737368]
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damn...a death chamber.... thats a bit barbaric.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-12 04:17 [#00737370]
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Makes my blood boil. Harold Pinter said the other day that the US is becoming like Nazi Germany. I thought that was a bit strong but now I'm not so sure.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 04:19 [#00737371]
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As Harold Pinter said yesterday, the American people bare responsibility too
Pinter
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 04:19 [#00737372]
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You must've read my mind
: )
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-06-12 04:22 [#00737373]
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Peloton, this has been in the making the last two years - one bill after another passed causing evermore violent intrusions into peoples freedom of speech, right to peacefully assemble in protests and so on. The U.S. media is right now knee deep in self induced censorship that keeps the public attention away from the crimes of the government, the betrayals actually. If you utter a scentence of doubt about the Bush agenda you get smeared and pissed at - this is the result of a p.r. campaign of a scale which is unprecedented in the world.
I mean, how many americans actually want their country to build more nuclear weapons? Well...now they're planning to build 500 more per year. This is not reported inside the mainstream media.
I've hear about stuff going on behind closed doors inside the US that makes me think Communist Soviet and Gulag. And to have the nerve to say the Jesus Christ is his favourite philosopher!?! Bush needs a good asswhooping.
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-06-12 04:28 [#00737379]
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Let's execute Bush and all the criminals from the Pentagon like Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld,...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 04:29 [#00737380]
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Hey! It's America, they can do what they damn well please! You're all, uh, JEALOUS because, umm, you know -- why are we all jealous of America again?
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-06-12 04:32 [#00737387]
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I'm definately not jealous to this primitive beasts!
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-06-12 04:33 [#00737389]
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Maybe because they're soon gonna have worldwide monopoly of everything from Violence to Chicken McNuggets?
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 04:50 [#00737405]
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because Disneyland is there.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 04:53 [#00737410]
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oh of course! and there's the epcott center too! :D I'm mighty jealous of that!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 04:54 [#00737414]
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You know, my ma an' pa justified the USA by saying it's a 'young' country! I couldn't believe me ears! And my mother excused Israel's Genocidal Imperialistic tendancies because of the holocaust! Like that gives them carte blanche!
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-06-12 05:06 [#00737426]
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It's like Orwell's 1984 - those who are being attacked are called terrorists and those who really terrorize people are called peaceful interventionists.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:14 [#00737434]
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There is the belief that certain people create the trouble so they can then claim to solve the trouble and be seen as some kind of hero. I'm tending to believe that this is what the US administration and its cohorts are engaged in doing.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-06-12 10:19 [#00737892]
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You guys should start getting your news at infowars.com. All real news stories, but not always the ones that CNN is posting on the front page. There are also links to some commentary relating to the NWO and so forth.
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-06-12 10:43 [#00737947]
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Wasn't any one of you expecting executions to happen over there without proper trials and courts?
It still makes me sad, but I am not surprised. I hate terorists, but the death penalty is medieval.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 10:55 [#00737963]
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The death penalty is barbaric. Yesterday, here in the UK, a man had his 1950 conviction and execution quashed after it emerged that police deliberately witheld vital evidence.
Speaking on the radio yesterday, the lawyer who represented the man said the panic and fear on the faces of the man's family will haunt him for the rest of his life.
Capital punishment is not a deterrant. Just look at the US
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-12 10:55 [#00737965]
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha stupid cunts
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-12 10:57 [#00737970]
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thats a bit vague, but morre morre can i say thats not been said and what we don't know alrready.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 10:58 [#00737973]
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Infowars? That's Alex james' site, yeah?
Saw a great documentary by him about the elites worshipping an owl God and staging "human sacrifices" at Bohemien Grove. GW Bush was there. Weird shit, man. Weird shit.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-12 10:59 [#00737975]
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not one American has chimed in here, and I don't think I'm going to step into the lions den except to make mention of my first point.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-13 04:56 [#00739056]
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The death penalty is needed to lower the human population, especially the American Population! Layabout negroes and mexicans have to be put into their proper place!
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