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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-06-11 18:17 [#00736984]
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Oh No..........
I think he needs to get off this trip he's on...Man to me Dave sounds a bit pissed off for no real reason...
Him and Martin need to go bowling or something, get thier shit back together before all hell breaks loose....
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-12 01:06 [#00737276]
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honestly, i hope martin does not allow dave to be involved in the songwriting too much. paper monsters is kinda crappy to me.
if that means dm split, then be it. i'm sure their best time is behind them anyway...
after songs of faith and devotion it's been all downhill.
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-12 01:35 [#00737286]
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i miss alan...
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alnuit
on 2003-06-12 01:44 [#00737289]
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damn :(
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mimi
on 2003-06-12 02:26 [#00737320]
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shit, i would say keep things like they are! i bought paper monsters, and it sucked a big one. the only memorable track was dirty sticky floor, and even that sounded like something that i would have scrapped if i was him.
anyhow, i have always wondered this: what exactly was alan's role in things when he was in the band? i thought that martin gore wrote everything, but people make a huge deal out of that guy...and i'll admit, recoil is pretty kick ass at times.
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Loopz
from Brum Land on 2003-06-12 02:32 [#00737324]
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Mode dont need Alan. He co-wrote a lot of stuff but Martin Gore writes some excellent stuff. I always treat the Mode albums as the last one from them - there is always some shit going around :)
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mimi
on 2003-06-12 02:39 [#00737326]
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i hear ya. i thought it would be all over with ultra -- and i thought to myself, well thats a decent one to go out with...then came exciter....
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 03:29 [#00737340]
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huh? i thought paper monsters was pretty good, hidden houses, bottle living and teh last track are excelent. I didn't think much of it at first but its a real grower.
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-12 05:05 [#00737424]
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it's not for the songwriting i want alan back. martin could probably handle that himself.
from what i know, alan worked mostly with "soundscapes" and arrangements.
rumours say alan actually finished the work on "songs of faith and devotion" himself while the others went on vacation right after the recording sessions were done.
btw... does anyone know what alan is up to right now? it doesn't say much on recoil.co.uk.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-06-12 06:13 [#00737511]
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I say close down Depeche Mode... it's time now!
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-12 06:22 [#00737533]
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i agree... it would be good timing to split the band now. rather than trying to make another, presumably, crap album.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 06:23 [#00737540]
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i think thats a bit harsh, Exciter proves they can still make great albums and it would be interesting to see how it would turn out with Dave Gahan having more of an influence.
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-12 06:36 [#00737559]
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ok, maybe i was exaggerating a bit there. exciter is not that bad actually... but still their worst album, imho.
i'm not saying speak & spell and a broken frame are great albums, but they still have some good tracks and lots of charm in a way.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-12 06:42 [#00737575]
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO said it ain't so
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-06-12 07:00 [#00737602]
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Well, I don't think Martin Gore would risk fucking up what he have achived with Depeche Mode by letting Dave in on the songwriting...not by this stage....
Worst case scenario would be if Martin quit and the rest of them went on as Depeche Mode :D Jeeezezz!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-12 07:02 [#00737606]
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Dave is let in on the song wrritting alot.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-06-12 07:15 [#00737639]
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He is?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 07:22 [#00737656]
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i doubt Dave Gahan would "fuck thigs up". From the majority of reviews i've read on both their recent albums the majority of people said the Dave Gahan one was the only one worth owning.
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-12 07:53 [#00737696]
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no. so far, dave has NOT been involved in any songwriting for dm even though he has wanted it. martin has even told dave how he should sing the songs.(according to recent interviews with dave)
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-06-12 07:59 [#00737704]
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That's what I thought.... I haven't read those interviews though...
Anus?
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-12 08:05 [#00737708]
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well... you could start by reading the article on nme.com that IronLung is linking to in the first post of this topic. :)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-12 08:20 [#00737716]
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ehhehehe
guess my crystal ball was RIGHT! eh?
someone doesn't market himself as the 'FORMER' lead singer of Depeche Mode if they are happy with the band =0)
i hope they work things out too, they still make good music IMO. i try to experience each album on it's own merit, not compare it to previous ones. sometimes change is good.......and well sometimes NOT =b
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-12 10:42 [#00737945]
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yeah he has quite an influence in the song wrriting. taken forr example SOFAD which was grreatly influenced by all the guitarr music he was listening to in his rrock faze.
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mimi
on 2003-06-12 12:19 [#00738105]
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i really gave exciter a chance, i loved the single to death, but i really just can't listen to it.
i remember when that came out, tool and autechre came out the same day!
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mimi
on 2003-06-12 12:22 [#00738110]
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i really gave exciter a chance, i loved the single to death, but i really just can't listen to it.
i remember when that came out, tool and autechre came out the same day!
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mimi
on 2003-06-12 12:23 [#00738111]
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and i really feel strongly about what i just said twice.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 13:03 [#00738175]
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shame, some really good tracks imo... esp The Dead Of Night and The Sweetest Condition
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-12 13:04 [#00738178]
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i love Exciter. its a grreat album. i do find it harrd to put on forr some rreason but once it is on i listen to it forr days without taking it out.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 13:06 [#00738181]
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did you get Paper Monsters?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-12 13:07 [#00738184]
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not yet. it's top of my list howeverr and plan to get it at music zone on saturrday.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-06-12 19:48 [#00738659]
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Did you JINX em with your preminition GIRL??? ;)
Yeah I REALLY hope this does not escalate. I LOVED Exciter and was looking forward to new stuff...
Bah to his bad attitude...
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-13 00:26 [#00738811]
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i just heard the junkie xl track called "reload" featuring dave gahan on vocals. it's truly great. much better than every track on paper monsters. not just the music, but also the way dave is singing (or how his voice is processed, who knows?).
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-13 03:34 [#00739007]
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what are peoples favourite tracks on Paper Monsters?
Im going to see him live next month, hoping it will be good. I really like the album, that last track almost sounds like a massive attack song.
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-06-13 03:42 [#00739013]
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my fav is hidden houses.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-06-13 14:26 [#00739638]
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i prefer martin's voice to dave's
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-06-13 14:31 [#00739642]
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they need a decent producer
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 17:13 [#00739776]
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lol, ouch
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-06-13 17:22 [#00739786]
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thats my promo in the bin
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-13 17:23 [#00739787]
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i was going to get today but its fatherrs day on Sunday. i got him a book.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 19:26 [#00739876]
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you fucker! lemme know how you like it, he's going up his own arse about how good it is.. not exactly an unbiased opinion
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-06-13 19:30 [#00739877]
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i meant before sending, i havent got one!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-13 19:33 [#00739879]
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i already refused one, i didn't want a cassette.. i got greedy, asked for some b-sides or some such! he wasn't too impressed with that request! so i told him if it's gonna be the exact same thing as the commercial release i'll just wait and buy it, thanks anyway bud!! :) i hope it didn't come out the wrong way cos i'm excited to hear it (on cd).
if you wanna play paula and i in iSketch look for a room name starting with your first name!
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