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offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:38 [#00737448]
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it's so easy to say stuff like "yeah those pigs are too fat,
they make me feel ill!" and afterwards seeing loads of
people reply the same shit "yeah man, they make me sick
those fat chicks"

i mean jesus
there are other ways to reach 10000 points

i wish you all good luck in this thread, i'm sure it'll
become a 100+ one


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:40 [#00737451]
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the past defines the present - that applies to words too -
the definition that you quote of dictionary.com in fact
betrays its roots. Sophistication isn't something to be
praised, and as I said, I would never claim to be
sophisticated. The state of 21st century English isn't
exactly great is it? I try to avoid the bastardised standard
that seems to pass for the norm nowadays - language is one
of the great symbolisms - we see people not actually saying
what they mean because they are not entrenched in the full
history of language.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:45 [#00737456]
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regardless what the exact definition or the history of the
word ism
i think everybody knows what i mean when i write the word
'sophisticated', except you aparently.
i think the reason you started analizing the history and
other definitions is that the my sentence was pointed at you


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:45 [#00737457]
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you haven't even stated your own opinions on obesity, morton
-- all you've done is try to slag us off and cast us as
miscreants.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:46 [#00737458]
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*that the my sentence = that my sentence


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:46 [#00737459]
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um, no - if you bothered to read a few of my posts, you'll
see that I have often given the roots to words, and have
often told of my interest in etymology and the history of
language.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-12 05:50 [#00737462]
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I think fat people should be sent to gas chambers


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:53 [#00737465]
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yeah - their farts alone could gas a person! :D


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-06-12 05:53 [#00737466]
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So what do you think about Aphex Twin then?


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 05:54 [#00737469]
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hitler... hasonly got one baalllll

sing along everyone please thank you


 

offline WeaklingChild from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 05:55 [#00737470]
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he's alright....


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:55 [#00737471]
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he could do with losing a bit of weight like


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:58 [#00737477]
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i have my opinions
who am i to say someone is too fat and should exercise? i
don't mind fat people, they often have a good sense of
humour and i think their lifes wouldn't become more happier
if they had to watch their weight all their life because you
don't like to look at them

'hey you know what? i don't like ginger chicks, they make me
feel ill, why don't they go home and paint their hair
black?'

if someone was planning on saying stuff like 'yeah but the
government has to pay $$$ every year 'cause of those fat
people and their health problems' i'd advice you to make
hate threads about smokers and drinkers first


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-06-12 06:00 [#00737482]
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Yeah, couldn't belive it when I saw him on stage. Crawling
into that tight sweater with his belly hanging out. I was SO
disgusted!


 

offline nanu from neverland (Switzerland) on 2003-06-12 06:01 [#00737485]
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fat people also can have psycological problems..i'm sure
it's not gonna be better when other people insulting
them....rather more badly


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:03 [#00737492]
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actually, obesity is set to be the top killer here in
Scotland. And also, a person isn't obliged to mention
anything else if it's not the topic of conversation - this
thread is about fat people, not smokers or drinkers - fat
people - if you want a tirade against those two sections of
society, start the thread and I'll happily join in.

Like I said, I have nothing but respect for fat people who
are trying to lose weight -- to become HEALTHY human beings
- it's the ones who think being fat is cool and are trying
to make it some kind of status symbol (and I've seen plenty
of them) that provoked this thread - maybe you should have
read some of the posts more closely; a lot of facetiousness
and jokiness for sure, but also quite a few good points.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:04 [#00737496]
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I've seen plenty of fat people insulting non-fat people, so
fuck em -- if they are gonna dish it out, they can take it,
too.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:10 [#00737506]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



yeah morton, i dont wanna fight with you, you're a nice
guy... All he says is this idea of eating junkfood sucks..
And if you read the third post...

To redress the balance, I also hate those really skinny
bitches, who think they're really fucking cool because they

don't eat! I like my women to have curves on em you know!


btw it would be fine if this thread was closed now imo,
thisll only lead to agression


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:13 [#00737509]
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yes, you see, I like balance. The extremes of obesity and
the uber-skinny chicks (who don't have anoreXia nerVosa)
disgust me, especially when proposed as some kind of fashion
status. If the extremes are due to illness or psychological
damage, then I retire from attack, and would do what I could
to help, which I have done before.


 

offline nanu from neverland (Switzerland) on 2003-06-12 06:14 [#00737514]
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all people who are insultig other people have any problems.
esp when tehy think they are "cool", they're not, they are
not self-confidently (i don't know how to write this word
maybe it's right)
i had few guys in my class who needed to insult other and
today you can walk by them and they don't say any word, when
they're alone :d


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:16 [#00737516]
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true
but he's generalizing, even in his last post
"I've seen plenty of fat people insulting non-fat people, so
fuck em"

yeah so fuck'em all! :\

and what's with calling them pigs, that'll sure encourage
them to listen to you and change their eating habit

i'd like to see this thread closed too,
i won't post here anymore that's for sure

...i'm gonna listen to some fatboy slim


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:16 [#00737517]
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there's more to insults than that one-dimensional
description.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:17 [#00737521]
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umm, you'll notice I DIDN'T say 'fuck em all'.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:20 [#00737529]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



your both partially right

never mind tho.. thisll lead to nothing


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:22 [#00737535]
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*sigh* i shouldn't post anymore but i knew you'd come up
with that reaction.
from the context it's obvious that you were referring to fat
people in general

please don't start analyzing all those sentences and start
taking it all literally
anyone who uses his/her common sense knows what is meant

please don't start to get reaction from me again either, we
both made our points


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:31 [#00737551]
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well don't imply that I'm saying things I'm not - it's not
up to you to say that I'm referring to ALL when I did not
use that word, and was talking about the fat people who
insult non-fat people.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 06:34 [#00737555]
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What you saying about ginger people bitch?!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:35 [#00737557]
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btw, I call em pigs because they resemble Javanese
PotBellied Pigs.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:36 [#00737560]
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pig... :D


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:38 [#00737563]
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see -- that woman is smiling with PRIDE!!! :@


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:39 [#00737565]
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heheh she even has pig tits


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:47 [#00737584]
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she looks like a deflated rhino!!! :D


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:50 [#00737586]
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this is like the thread by Promo all over again - saying the
same dumb crap: "fat people make me sick! they are pigs!"
etc.

in the end he said he thought it was just really bad for
their health - but did he start out saying that? NOOOO!! it
was the dumb crap.

I agree with Morton - I think all this crap like "fat people
should die!" etc. sounds incredibly stupid and very
short-sighted.

btw, I don't see you starting a thread about the anorexics
you propose to hate - no, you start about fat people.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:51 [#00737589]
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its just the obvious shallowness of such hollow phrases
which gets on my proverbial tits.

it is far from intelligent.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:54 [#00737594]
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anorexia nervosa is an illness -- eating too much isn't.
Yes, it can be an addiction, but if you ain't gonna fight
your addiction, then don't expect any help or sympathy. As
I've now said twice before, I have respect for those who
fight it.

Btw, this thread is dual - there is the serious issue and
there is the juvenile humour-mongering.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 08:47 [#00737748]
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"anorexia nervosa is an illness -- eating too much
isn't."


not true. just as eating too little can be an ilness, so can
be eating too much.
I think a problem like obesity is a combination of factors -
lots of people don't burn fat quickly, so they gain weight
quicker. our modern society is mostly going towards hedonism
- eat as much as you can.
also, lots of people fill up an emptiness in their lives
with eating.
self-hatred can be a great engine for someone to start
eating.

what I'm saying: its not as easy to just say, "oh fat people
should just stop eating". the problem lies much deeper.

and I agree we should do something about obesity, but
shouting all kinds of shallow crap isn't helping much.

"then don't expect any help or sympathy"

not expecting any help or sympathy is something else than
calling people names.

and even then, in how far can a person chose whether or not
to fight an addiction? after all, it IS an addiction.
so maybe help is needed, but not directly asked for.

the last time a thread like this came up, it really hurt a
few people on this board.



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 08:51 [#00737753]
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gosh, I feel so unbad now - my lack of compassion has really
kicked in.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-12 09:01 [#00737765]
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Well isn't this a lovely thread.

If anything, this thread proves that the dutch are the most
intelligent and nicest people on this board ;-)



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 09:02 [#00737768]
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or the most humourless.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 09:35 [#00737825]
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OK. This has gone a but out of hand. The way I read it is
that Marlowe is taking objection to people who are fat
through their own laziness. People who're fat through
illness, glangular problems whatever he has no problem with.
These people have not made the choice to sit on their asses.
He does also say that he finds akinny people just as
disgusting. Basically Marlowe is saying that people that
take the human body to extreme limits through choice
are disgusting.

People who are compulsive eaters through a psychological
problem marlowe has no problem with.

People who just eat badly and sit on their asses getting fat
because they're too lazy to do anything marlowe has a
problem with.

People who're skinny because they're anorexic marlowe has
no problem with.

People who're skinny because they choose to be marlowe
doesn't like.

Now stop having a go at him.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-12 09:56 [#00737853]
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"People who just eat badly and sit on their asses getting
fat because they're too lazy to do anything marlowe has a
problem with.
"

And that's alright? You say it as if this is a perfectly
normal and healthy attitude. If fat people want to wear
tight clothes... so what? We should be feeling happy for
them that they're okay with themselves, and not ashamed
because they don't look "normal". If they want to eat at
McDonalds... then again, so what? It's true that it's
unhealthy, but it's their choice. None of our concerns.

"before entering the streets and selfishly exposing their
copious white flesh!!!
"

This is such bullshit... so everyone who Marlowe's got a
problem with shouldn't be allowed on the streets?! If he,
for whatever reason, doesn't like looking at fat people than
maybe he should stay indoors with the curtains
closed.



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-13 04:37 [#00739031]
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Like I said - no sense of humour -- the serious has to have
a dose of humour, dontchaknow

cheers chris, for your valiant defence of my honour! :D


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-13 04:55 [#00739052]
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its an avoidance tatic


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-13 05:03 [#00739066]
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well i have nothing more to add really.
It is obvious we both have our opinions, and they are
completely opposite from eachother.

I don't think either one is going to be convinced by the
other, so fighting about it would be kind of pointless.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-13 05:06 [#00739074]
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fighting? I haven't been fighting anyone on this thread -
occasional defence, but that's all. Like I said, no humour.
When a society lacks humour, you KNOW they're fucked up.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-06-13 05:08 [#00739078]
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I fully agree with qrter on this. It's easy to slag off
people who do not live up to your standards.

"Oh they should just stop eating and stay inside with a sail
wrapped around their body." Easy to say for you guys who
don't have an eating problem. For all I care you have a
giant mole on your chest. In that case I'd stongly suggest
you to never undress your upper body in public.


 

offline nanu from neverland (Switzerland) on 2003-06-13 05:12 [#00739084]
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humour is GREAT :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD but not in that way, its
even not "black humour" i think. when it insult other


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-13 05:13 [#00739085]
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marlowe i think the prroblem is that its only funny to a
select few.
it's not funny to the fat people rreading this.
just like black jokes arre funny to rracists. they arre not
funny to anyone else.
and its not silly to comparre, its basically the same thing.



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-06-13 05:14 [#00739087]
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but its not like it matterrs, carrrry on, they arre just
fatties


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-13 05:16 [#00739089]
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it IS silly to compare, because black people 01) aren't
black by choice 02) are not unhealthy and obscene by being
black.

No thing is sacred - if some fat fuck eats too much and
doesn't exercise, they're fair game. I don't care if this
causes me to be pillaried by certain people, because the
ones I respect are joining in with me, rather than being
offended by it.


 


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