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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:38 [#00737448]
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it's so easy to say stuff like "yeah those pigs are too fat, they make me feel ill!" and afterwards seeing loads of people reply the same shit "yeah man, they make me sick those fat chicks"
i mean jesus there are other ways to reach 10000 points
i wish you all good luck in this thread, i'm sure it'll become a 100+ one
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:40 [#00737451]
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the past defines the present - that applies to words too - the definition that you quote of dictionary.com in fact betrays its roots. Sophistication isn't something to be praised, and as I said, I would never claim to be sophisticated. The state of 21st century English isn't exactly great is it? I try to avoid the bastardised standard that seems to pass for the norm nowadays - language is one of the great symbolisms - we see people not actually saying what they mean because they are not entrenched in the full history of language.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:45 [#00737456]
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regardless what the exact definition or the history of the word ism
i think everybody knows what i mean when i write the word 'sophisticated', except you aparently.
i think the reason you started analizing the history and other definitions is that the my sentence was pointed at you
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:45 [#00737457]
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you haven't even stated your own opinions on obesity, morton -- all you've done is try to slag us off and cast us as miscreants.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:46 [#00737458]
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*that the my sentence = that my sentence
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:46 [#00737459]
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um, no - if you bothered to read a few of my posts, you'll see that I have often given the roots to words, and have often told of my interest in etymology and the history of language.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-06-12 05:50 [#00737462]
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I think fat people should be sent to gas chambers
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:53 [#00737465]
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yeah - their farts alone could gas a person! :D
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-06-12 05:53 [#00737466]
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So what do you think about Aphex Twin then?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 05:54 [#00737469]
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hitler... hasonly got one baalllll
sing along everyone please thank you
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 05:55 [#00737470]
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he's alright....
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 05:55 [#00737471]
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he could do with losing a bit of weight like
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 05:58 [#00737477]
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i have my opinions who am i to say someone is too fat and should exercise? i don't mind fat people, they often have a good sense of humour and i think their lifes wouldn't become more happier if they had to watch their weight all their life because you don't like to look at them
'hey you know what? i don't like ginger chicks, they make me feel ill, why don't they go home and paint their hair black?'
if someone was planning on saying stuff like 'yeah but the government has to pay $$$ every year 'cause of those fat people and their health problems' i'd advice you to make hate threads about smokers and drinkers first
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-06-12 06:00 [#00737482]
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Yeah, couldn't belive it when I saw him on stage. Crawling into that tight sweater with his belly hanging out. I was SO disgusted!
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nanu
from neverland (Switzerland) on 2003-06-12 06:01 [#00737485]
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fat people also can have psycological problems..i'm sure it's not gonna be better when other people insulting them....rather more badly
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:03 [#00737492]
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actually, obesity is set to be the top killer here in Scotland. And also, a person isn't obliged to mention anything else if it's not the topic of conversation - this thread is about fat people, not smokers or drinkers - fat people - if you want a tirade against those two sections of society, start the thread and I'll happily join in.
Like I said, I have nothing but respect for fat people who are trying to lose weight -- to become HEALTHY human beings - it's the ones who think being fat is cool and are trying to make it some kind of status symbol (and I've seen plenty of them) that provoked this thread - maybe you should have read some of the posts more closely; a lot of facetiousness and jokiness for sure, but also quite a few good points.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:04 [#00737496]
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I've seen plenty of fat people insulting non-fat people, so fuck em -- if they are gonna dish it out, they can take it, too.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:10 [#00737506]
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yeah morton, i dont wanna fight with you, you're a nice guy... All he says is this idea of eating junkfood sucks.. And if you read the third post...
To redress the balance, I also hate those really skinny bitches, who think they're really fucking cool because they
don't eat! I like my women to have curves on em you know!
btw it would be fine if this thread was closed now imo, thisll only lead to agression
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:13 [#00737509]
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yes, you see, I like balance. The extremes of obesity and the uber-skinny chicks (who don't have anoreXia nerVosa) disgust me, especially when proposed as some kind of fashion status. If the extremes are due to illness or psychological damage, then I retire from attack, and would do what I could to help, which I have done before.
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nanu
from neverland (Switzerland) on 2003-06-12 06:14 [#00737514]
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all people who are insultig other people have any problems. esp when tehy think they are "cool", they're not, they are not self-confidently (i don't know how to write this word maybe it's right)
i had few guys in my class who needed to insult other and today you can walk by them and they don't say any word, when they're alone :d
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:16 [#00737516]
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true but he's generalizing, even in his last post "I've seen plenty of fat people insulting non-fat people, so fuck em"
yeah so fuck'em all! :\
and what's with calling them pigs, that'll sure encourage them to listen to you and change their eating habit
i'd like to see this thread closed too, i won't post here anymore that's for sure
...i'm gonna listen to some fatboy slim
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:16 [#00737517]
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there's more to insults than that one-dimensional description.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:17 [#00737521]
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umm, you'll notice I DIDN'T say 'fuck em all'.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:20 [#00737529]
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your both partially right
never mind tho.. thisll lead to nothing
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:22 [#00737535]
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*sigh* i shouldn't post anymore but i knew you'd come up with that reaction.
from the context it's obvious that you were referring to fat people in general
please don't start analyzing all those sentences and start taking it all literally
anyone who uses his/her common sense knows what is meant
please don't start to get reaction from me again either, we both made our points
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:31 [#00737551]
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well don't imply that I'm saying things I'm not - it's not up to you to say that I'm referring to ALL when I did not use that word, and was talking about the fat people who insult non-fat people.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 06:34 [#00737555]
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What you saying about ginger people bitch?!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:35 [#00737557]
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btw, I call em pigs because they resemble Javanese PotBellied Pigs.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:36 [#00737560]
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pig... :D
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:38 [#00737563]
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see -- that woman is smiling with PRIDE!!! :@
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-06-12 06:39 [#00737565]
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heheh she even has pig tits
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:47 [#00737584]
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she looks like a deflated rhino!!! :D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:50 [#00737586]
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this is like the thread by Promo all over again - saying the same dumb crap: "fat people make me sick! they are pigs!" etc.
in the end he said he thought it was just really bad for their health - but did he start out saying that? NOOOO!! it was the dumb crap.
I agree with Morton - I think all this crap like "fat people should die!" etc. sounds incredibly stupid and very short-sighted.
btw, I don't see you starting a thread about the anorexics you propose to hate - no, you start about fat people.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 06:51 [#00737589]
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its just the obvious shallowness of such hollow phrases which gets on my proverbial tits.
it is far from intelligent.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 06:54 [#00737594]
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anorexia nervosa is an illness -- eating too much isn't. Yes, it can be an addiction, but if you ain't gonna fight your addiction, then don't expect any help or sympathy. As I've now said twice before, I have respect for those who fight it.
Btw, this thread is dual - there is the serious issue and there is the juvenile humour-mongering.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-12 08:47 [#00737748]
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"anorexia nervosa is an illness -- eating too much isn't."
not true. just as eating too little can be an ilness, so can be eating too much.
I think a problem like obesity is a combination of factors - lots of people don't burn fat quickly, so they gain weight quicker. our modern society is mostly going towards hedonism - eat as much as you can.
also, lots of people fill up an emptiness in their lives with eating.
self-hatred can be a great engine for someone to start eating.
what I'm saying: its not as easy to just say, "oh fat people should just stop eating". the problem lies much deeper.
and I agree we should do something about obesity, but shouting all kinds of shallow crap isn't helping much.
"then don't expect any help or sympathy"
not expecting any help or sympathy is something else than calling people names.
and even then, in how far can a person chose whether or not to fight an addiction? after all, it IS an addiction.
so maybe help is needed, but not directly asked for.
the last time a thread like this came up, it really hurt a few people on this board.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 08:51 [#00737753]
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gosh, I feel so unbad now - my lack of compassion has really kicked in.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-12 09:01 [#00737765]
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Well isn't this a lovely thread.
If anything, this thread proves that the dutch are the most intelligent and nicest people on this board ;-)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-12 09:02 [#00737768]
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or the most humourless.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 09:35 [#00737825]
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OK. This has gone a but out of hand. The way I read it is that Marlowe is taking objection to people who are fat through their own laziness. People who're fat through illness, glangular problems whatever he has no problem with. These people have not made the choice to sit on their asses. He does also say that he finds akinny people just as disgusting. Basically Marlowe is saying that people that take the human body to extreme limits through choice are disgusting.
People who are compulsive eaters through a psychological problem marlowe has no problem with.
People who just eat badly and sit on their asses getting fat because they're too lazy to do anything marlowe has a problem with.
People who're skinny because they're anorexic marlowe has no problem with.
People who're skinny because they choose to be marlowe doesn't like.
Now stop having a go at him.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-12 09:56 [#00737853]
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"People who just eat badly and sit on their asses getting fat because they're too lazy to do anything marlowe has a
problem with."
And that's alright? You say it as if this is a perfectly normal and healthy attitude. If fat people want to wear tight clothes... so what? We should be feeling happy for them that they're okay with themselves, and not ashamed because they don't look "normal". If they want to eat at McDonalds... then again, so what? It's true that it's unhealthy, but it's their choice. None of our concerns.
"before entering the streets and selfishly exposing their copious white flesh!!!"
This is such bullshit... so everyone who Marlowe's got a problem with shouldn't be allowed on the streets?! If he, for whatever reason, doesn't like looking at fat people than maybe he should stay indoors with the curtains closed.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-13 04:37 [#00739031]
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Like I said - no sense of humour -- the serious has to have a dose of humour, dontchaknow
cheers chris, for your valiant defence of my honour! :D
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-13 04:55 [#00739052]
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its an avoidance tatic
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-13 05:03 [#00739066]
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well i have nothing more to add really. It is obvious we both have our opinions, and they are completely opposite from eachother.
I don't think either one is going to be convinced by the other, so fighting about it would be kind of pointless.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-13 05:06 [#00739074]
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fighting? I haven't been fighting anyone on this thread - occasional defence, but that's all. Like I said, no humour. When a society lacks humour, you KNOW they're fucked up.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-06-13 05:08 [#00739078]
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I fully agree with qrter on this. It's easy to slag off people who do not live up to your standards.
"Oh they should just stop eating and stay inside with a sail wrapped around their body." Easy to say for you guys who don't have an eating problem. For all I care you have a giant mole on your chest. In that case I'd stongly suggest you to never undress your upper body in public.
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nanu
from neverland (Switzerland) on 2003-06-13 05:12 [#00739084]
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humour is GREAT :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD but not in that way, its even not "black humour" i think. when it insult other
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-13 05:13 [#00739085]
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marlowe i think the prroblem is that its only funny to a select few.
it's not funny to the fat people rreading this. just like black jokes arre funny to rracists. they arre not funny to anyone else.
and its not silly to comparre, its basically the same thing.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-13 05:14 [#00739087]
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but its not like it matterrs, carrrry on, they arre just fatties
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-06-13 05:16 [#00739089]
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it IS silly to compare, because black people 01) aren't black by choice 02) are not unhealthy and obscene by being black.
No thing is sacred - if some fat fuck eats too much and doesn't exercise, they're fair game. I don't care if this causes me to be pillaried by certain people, because the ones I respect are joining in with me, rather than being offended by it.
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