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i think this film is SO fucking awful, it has to be a satire. - its a false film about a false world ... a genious satirical concept, if i´m right - the Architect characters speech to Neo, even though its as confused as hell, talks about repeating storylines, mistakes being made, rehashing of narative. He´s telling us that we´re accepting this bullshit all too easily, not Neo - The Architect even shows us scenes from the Matrix 1...... remember Spaceballs? - its so grossly over the top on boring cliched action, and weak on story and characters..... 2 ingrediants for a pisstake - look at the multiple Agent Smith scene... pointless if you buy into the storyline bit maybe its a statement on "generic, samey, movie adversaries"? - it just has to be! |
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I haven't seen the matrix II, but what you're saying seems reasonable enough - I'll probably watch it someday. not high on my list of priorities tho. |
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i watched matrix 2 and didn;t understand shit of what was going on.... |
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maybe. but i don't think so, i think its just a prroject taken on by lazy film makerrs who planned on the firrst to make is a success. |
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yep... i´m probably giving waayy too many Hollywood folks wayyy too much credit. its simply just pure shite |
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i love Agent Smith and the Merovingian! they're funny ^^ it was deceiving compared to Matrix 1 (expectable though), some scenes were funny (in some of the Tekken-Force-like fights against multiple Smiths for example... don't know if it was laughable or humoristic, probably both) but nothing was impressive... it has lost its impressiveness, sadly =( * btw, just a thought, don't you think the scene where Neo entered the room with the architect, which the white light... looked like a Pentium ad? * btw2, i like Zion by Fluke very much (the music where the people from Zion are dancing and Trinity and Neo are mating)... though it ends too abruptely, it's because of the scene it was used for i guess... still looking forward to a new Fluke album!! |
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i thought the bit with neo and colnel sanders definitley looked like a pentium add. |
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BUT..BUT.. ALL THE PHILORSORPHY MAAAANNNN!!! THESE FIRLMS GOOO DEERP MAAAANNN!!! |
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wtf i totally have to disagree with you here man. you need to educate yourself or something. if that is ALL you found in this movie, then i feel bad for you for missing out on a truely great movie. this movie left me (as well as millions of others) questioning everything after the movie was over. people are sitll formulating ideas, this, that, well what if you look at it like this? no...how about like this? this movie has spawned a lot of interesting and eduacated thoughts on philosphopy. i really enjoyed it (not just for action scenes) shame that your above statement is all you got out of this movie, you probably didn't pay attention too well or you dont have an imagination or something (no insults, but comon, read yer first post). |
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every single fight scene was i-hit-you, you-hit-me. You can put as much slow mo or fancy bullet time shit in there as you like, you ain´t gonna surpass the fight scenes in any Kurasawa samurai film... and they are almost 50 years old!.. Real time, fast and brutal. "The Bourne Identity" is the only modern film to get close. |
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"this movie has spawned a lot of interesting and eduacated thoughts on philosphopy." HA. HA. HA. |
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"- The Architect even shows us scenes from the Matrix 1...... remember Spaceballs? " uhh the spaceballs bit was showing the future, well, the movie AS it was happening. the archie was showing parts of life, and parts of neo's previous life. hwo the fuck can you compare the two? i just lost all respect for you on these thoughts, jeez! |
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qtr, you dont read slashdot do you? didnt think so. |
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"every single fight scene was i-hit-you, you-hit-me. You can put as much slow mo or fancy bullet time shit in there as you like, you ain´t gonna surpass the fight scenes in any Kurasawa samurai film... " uhh yeah this movie is based around nice effects, but you are one of those people who are always complaining. and when everyone is saying "that movie is so awesome, whoa that part was awesome" - you are the one who goes "dood that wasnt shit, i know this movie that blows it away" just let it be. not everyone will like every movie, and i personally really enjoyed the effects. bullet time is THEIR invention, why cant they use it repeatedly? |
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oh, and qrter, let me rephrase that, it has brought a lot of people who NORMALLY wouldnt htink about philosophy - into being interested in it and being quite thought provoking. you just have to find something to relate to someone, then you can teach them it |
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good one elusive. ever see Wizard of Oz, Dark City, 1984, the Cube, Superman, Satr Wars? The Matrix steals from them all. I got the enitre storyline alright.. and its fucking lame. |
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steals? hmmm ok so then you could say everything has been stolen from lord of the rings, or some other fairy tale / story from ancient times etc.. you get where im going with this. star wars isn't very "thought provoking" this movie is, simple as that. and i doubt you have the entire "storyline" |
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are yiu getting all bil_hicks on me, elusive? |
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alls I have to say is this: You have Matrix, with crazy effects, and an above normal plot. Or you can have any other action movie thats been out recently. TRY to tell me anything lately has come close in a. effects/visuals and b. an interesting story line... not just "there are terrorists", or "a CIA agent gone rouge" or some other bullshit. Matrix is a fantasy. Like elusive said, it makes people who dont normally think about philosophy, think. I personally think thats a good thing. I just dont understand why people get so fucking righteous about this. ITS A MOVIE. IT ENTERTAINMENT. IF YOU LIKE IT, GRAND! IF NOW, BIG DEAL, ITS JUST A MOVIE, A DIFFERENT MOVIE WILL COME ALONG SOON THAT YOULL LIKE. seriously, whats the point of getting all in a tizzy? Its like you guys take it personally. |
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Bullet time is NOT their invention. |
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yeah, the storyline is that neo is part machine-part human, which is why he was able to shoot down the squiddies at the end of the second. |
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keyfumbler, nah im just playing :) qt pi |
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The actual visuals behind it were. |
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can i fumble for your keys in your pockets? hmmm, that could be a good pickup line for the ladies "so..why do they call you the keyfumbler?" (GIR-he didnt "shoot em down" per se' ) - well, we'll see in the final one, everything else is speculation |
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its about deterioration in quality, chaps. i get in a tizzy because i feel sucked into a big pile of nothing. Its so bubblegummy and poppy. I like popcorn movies as much as anyone .....like "Back to the future" or something, but this is all just abolute pants. its really fucking bothers me that soo many people buy into it. People i know and respect seriously like it - yet it lacks narative and consistent structure. its cheap, wooden and souless... quite creepy really |
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therre a two types of film watches |
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alright cool, now that you are finished condesending everyone, feel better now? Get it out of your system? Am I gonna see another matrix thread tommorrow? |
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Keyfumbler, not to be rude (dont take it this way please, ) but you are acting like the matrix (laff) all these people like the movie, and you are the only one who does not. you think it's stupid and it ticks you off that no one else sees "the truth." heh, kinda like yer neo then, the one who "sees the truth,,, that this movie sucks" and everyone else you are talking to are pawns in the matrix, zombies, etc...who like the movie. YAR HAR HAR I MADE A FUNNAY! |
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elusive.. that is EXCACTLY what i am saying. Proceed to the next level. Zeus... yep yep and maybe |
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seems to me like you are taking the criticism personally. |
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stop playing devils advocate. It gets old after awhile. |
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i must agree on that |
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I liked it. Thought it was fookin top drawer. well good. aye. good effects. mad story. well mad and tasty. yum |
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i think theres a difference between going out, seeing a movie, and taking it personally that you didnt like it, and coming on this MB and saying ALL YOU, SPECIFICALLY, WHO LIKED IT ARE DUMB. |
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i just think some people's expectations were not only unreasonably high for this movie, but the were also off base... meaning that they were expecting something other than what it was. some people will like it, some won't. i personally liked it a lot after seeing it a second time. parts that seemed hokey the first time made more sense after seeing it again. |
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my wang just grew 3"!!!!! ITS PEANUTT BUTTER JELLY YTIME |
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"stop playing devils advocate. It gets old after awhile." ..what? I was stating my own opinion. how do I play devils advocate, then? |
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THAT LOOK ON YOUR FACE SIR! IT GIVES IT AWAY and honestly, people, let us KNOW who you are talking to. on this type of message board (short comments, very LARGE amount of posts per topic) its hard to fig out whose talking to who cause so many ppl post |
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who are you talking to me? |
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For a movie that you thought was 'so fucking awful' you obviously spent a fair amount of time thinking about it, and are passionate enough about it to argue your opinion on this board. whether you liked it or not, the movie had a relatively profound effect on you. this is why you hate it, and why i love it even more. interesting. |
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i DO have to say that the initial points brought up by keyfumbler are interesting, and make sense. I love his perspective, even though i can't say that i agree with anyone for i don't have an opinion yet on the movie. |
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keyfumbler: i think you just didnt like the movie. i dont think any of that architect stuf or the premise is supposed to be some nod towards people who are better than the average movie audience. someone had a similar theory about a.i. and i said the same thing, i think you just dont accept it for what it is. |
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