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How can I start to make idm?
 

offline AE_King from Australia on 2003-06-02 06:57 [#00723965]
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I haven't been around in ages (been very sick
unfortunately), so hello everyone!

I posted a similar topic to this one months and months ago,
asking what would be a good program to start making some
idm. I got a few things (can't remember what they were
because my compluter crashed and I lsot everything a while
after I got em!) buuuuut, what I wanted to ask was: where
can i read about how to make sounds and stuff from scratch?
Everything is so complicated, where do I start! hehe, I'm
still quite sick and won't be able to work for a month or
so, so now would be a great time to start! Thanks in
advance :)

Oh, and what program should a beginner like me start with?


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-02 06:58 [#00723968]
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I would use Fruity Loops to experiment with. Try and find a
crack. Reason isn't half bad either


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-02 06:59 [#00723970]
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Once you have conquered what the newest Fruity Loops gives
you then i would move onto higher ground.

Persoanlly, i prefer to make my IDM with instruments and FX
but also with a few Software programs


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-06-02 07:01 [#00723976]
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First you need a degree in nerdology, lose all your friends
by talikng about aphexs hair and what his favourite jelly
is, sit in your computer chair for a few years so you have
noodle like arms...then....you're ready to begin.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-06-02 07:06 [#00723979]
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use cubase sx, it has the best sequencer, it's more
advanced, it's easier and faster to make tracks with. with
Reason's sequencer it's harder and not as easy. get Cubase
SX and VST instruments and effects (i recommend Phatmatik
Pro, Absynth, FM7, Haligon sampler and DR808)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-02 07:07 [#00723980]
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Yeah, dump your gf, tell your mates not to call by your
house anymore and just hole yourself up with Fruityloops for
a few months. You'll get the basic concepts which you'll be
able to use in other programs.

Although Floops isn't as bad as some people would have you
believe. I still use it more than Reason...


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-02 07:07 [#00723981]
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whats Phatmatik Pro? Im intruiged...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-02 07:09 [#00723985]
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hey man, if you're charismatic you get to make music AND
have sex a lot!


 

offline AE_King from Australia on 2003-06-02 07:14 [#00723989]
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Can you record your own samples into fruity loops? Or do
you just manipulate stuff provided to get a unique sound?
Thanks dudes.


 

offline Murray from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-02 07:16 [#00723991]
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You can make your own stuff up using the synths they provide


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-06-02 07:23 [#00723995]
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i made a thread about Phatmatik Pro a while ago


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-06-02 07:25 [#00723997]
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my thread got a bit out of hand :)


 

offline nacmat on 2003-06-02 07:55 [#00724027]
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my recomendations to make idm music:

buy lots of cans diferent ones (food cans, painting cans,
soda cans...) then get some rope and some towels, bubble
bags, lots of paper... try to join it all together and throw
it downstairs... record it... then pass it to cd and then to
your computer... some edition and there you go!


 

offline alnuit on 2003-06-02 08:00 [#00724032]
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Thats a great suggestion...

Release the album as it is and it will work in the 'noise'
sub-genre.

Sample Ravel/Debussy's strings and overlay it...and it will
be called ambient.

And what is more. People will know you are intelligent.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-06-02 08:19 [#00724053]
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take Fruityloops 3+ ...set the bpm on 400+...set the loops
lenght to 64 bars...make beats within every 4th bar and
sometimes every 2nd...make 4 or more bars in a row to get
drill-effect (pitching the volume here = snarerush)...then
you throw in some melody in the background, but keeps the
bpm-feeling of the melody within 1/4 of the bpm (ie. 400pbm
= 100pbm)...then you just keep copying the main beat for
every loops, and add and remove different snares and drums
for every time you copy it....this is basicly how to make
beginners idm...you can always spice it up with samples,
effects and more snarerushes...but that's it ;)


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-06-02 08:21 [#00724055]
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ooops....the pbm's should be bpm's sorry


 

offline billabongbill from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-06-02 17:16 [#00724613]
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Reason - for sequencing and other gadgets

Soundforge - can generate sounds, edit and manipulate
sounds. also check around the net for free plugins. also get
hold of a dx wrapper which will enable you to use vst
plugins too. sound created here can then be used in reson's
sampler or drum-machine.

Free stuff to pick up off the net:

Stomper

Granulator - cool for making "IDM" sounds

Orangator

Free plugins.

Hope that helps ya.


 

offline AE_King from Australia on 2003-06-02 19:33 [#00724683]
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Excellent advice fellow xltronicers, I'm sure this will help
a lot. :) Hopefully one day I can post some tunes here for
ppl to listen to!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-02 19:39 [#00724698]
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get any soundeditor.

load in all your fave electronic tracks. snip bits out.
paste the whole lot together.

surely, that MUST sound good, surely?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-02 19:39 [#00724699]
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don't call me Shirley.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-06-02 19:42 [#00724703]
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I use Hammerhead for loop stretching and sequencing, and
occasionally Wave Enhancer for ambient tracks. (it's good
for stereo effects)

Go to a pawn shop and get an old shitty keyboard for about
$50 bucks (old Yamahas like PSRs and PSS are really nifty)
and a shitty drum machine.

Get an 1/8 headphone jack, and some 1/4 and RCA adaptors and
just record every single noise onto your computer. And i do
mean EVERY single noise.
(If you use PC, use Microsoft Sound Recorder, set the Sound
Quality to 44 Khz, 16 bit, and the recording control to
Stereo Mix)

You might also want a small handheld recorder to carry
around with you whenever you hear a good noise.

And if you can't afford a synthesizer, go for an old cheap
effects processor. My Digitech RP7 works quite well.

And always record EVERYTHING you do, because you never know
when you'll find your old recordings to be useful.

And by the way, Marlowe is correct. You can write IDM and
still score some booty. :-)


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-06-02 20:28 [#00724747]
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you're even entitled to push idm's limits!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-02 20:41 [#00724756]
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"..and what do you do?"
"me? I write Intelligent Dance Music."
"there's an intelligent dance?"
"what?"
"the dance is intelligent in some way?"
"no. I don't think so."
"why's it called that, then?"
"I think nobody really knows."
"thats dumb."
"um. yes. maybe. I guess."
"so you write music for a genre with a dumb name?"
"..."
"well?"
"yes..."


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-06-02 23:29 [#00724846]
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"Microsoft Sound Recorder"??! ...what the fuck are you on
man? ...that is the crappiest piece of software ever
build...there's plenty of other (almost) free programs that
record better and in higher quality...like GoldWave


 

offline Clic on 2003-06-02 23:59 [#00724874]
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Haha


 


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