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Heya, do you guys know of any good online drum programming guides? i really need to start looking into that stuff coz i'm begining to get pretty bored with the beats i've been coming up with lately. I need stuff to give me pointers on making better patterns. thanks |
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think of some really sick rhythms in your head and then spend ages putting them together. guides are wank cause they are probably not that diverse. |
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i'm just interested to see how beats are constructed really. how the different parts play off each other. and also to study different styles of drum beats |
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id say the best way to learn is to just listen to music and analyze what you hear. where is the kick drum hitting? the snare? is the off beat snare hits the same snare, or a different sounding snare? whats the motive? (the "hook" of the drums... the over all rhythm) just listen damn carefully. And not even the rhythms nessasarrly... but the production goes along way. it really does. Have good sounds, and knowing how to make them work together. thats my advice. good luck! |
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* i was high last night, and listened to modus operendi by Photek. god damn it was a religous experiance. his drum production is fucking insane. |
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Yes Rupert is very good with his beats. The only way I know how to program beats it to do it by ear. I couldn't read a book and do it...just try to imagine you pattern before you start trying to create one on the comp or whatever. |
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i think its all from experience and listening to good music - there are some talented programmers out there - aaron funk is fucking primo - just sit back and listen - over time you will learn to do it yourself - and create your own, original breaks |
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yeah... I doubt a book would really help with drum programing either... its not really somethin you can generalize imo. Unless its for like an ultimate begginer... And I dont even know if there are books for that kind of thing... esp. "pop" drums. (lets face it, alot of IDM beats arnt anything fancy) If anything, Id like to read into jazz drum theory. Now THATS something to learn. |
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well, let me take that back... most IDM drumming isnt anything fancy. (im exluding drillnbass from this) what kind of beats are you into Bill? |
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i've a basic understanding of basic rythyms but i want few pointers on spicing them up a bit in terms of fills and breaks etc. Zeus: i would LOVE to study jazz theory. in some ways, it goes against the normal rules you here regarding drumming. |
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polyrhythms... polymeters... :-D |
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i'm really into AE type sounding stuff. I've started using sounds that don't consist of one hit, but of two. It's hard to explain. instead of a sound going "bang", it'll go "banggggooush".... or something it helps ad a more live feel to my patterns. I''m also really really into the kinda beats on Vespertine by bjork |
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yeah... now we are getting into atypical beats... cant say I can offer much advice... you really wont find a tutorial on those kind of beats... :-\ just experiment... cause thats what AE are doing.... trust your ears... |
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i'm still interested in other types of beats. by applying the method mentioned above, you can really change the feel and mood of a pattern. if done right, it can turn even a basic pattern into something quite experimental |
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Photek has good production on his drums, but µ-ziq blows hime out of the water with Bilious Paths |
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not a big uziq fan... although ive only heard his older stuff but i like photeks minimalistic drumnbass its so sparse, but so brilliant |
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Damn right! Meinheld is excellent! |
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Yes, I'm brassed off I missed seeing Photek last weekend. I agree with Zeus re: Bilious paths from what I've heard (cheers eXX!) Sometimes a friend who is a drummer points out little things, to me like that I should move one particular drum to the offbeat, etc. It's amazing how much little changes like that add to it. One of the best tips I can give you is record lots of subtle pattern variations for each drum sound in a way that bank one off each drum work well all playing together, as do two (same as one, but subtle changes), etc. then generally play all the ones together, all the twos etc. then as the track progresses blend them together, play 1 on some, 2 on others at the same time. Towards the end go back to the more uniform ones like at the beginning. |
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seems like i missed something there - bought 2 photek cd`s ages ago and listened them only once. most boring d&b i can imagine atm |
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Ive been drumming for almost 8 years now, first 4 years Jazz, also during this time trained classical drums. Then later misc jam/rock bands. Now I drum for a punk band (www.thedeadfucks.com) which is kind of like starting over again cause doing Tripplits and double time paradiddles on a hi hat doesnt really sound good over top of maxed out amps and a guy screaming about Godzilla. I found programming drums with software stinks a hell of a lot. But loops are also really shitty cause when you find a really good one, the next day after mastering a kick ass track you see Jarule in a TWIX commercial rapping about chocolate bars over the beat you thought rocked. I picked up an Em-1 Korg Electribe last year and now I just tap out my drums on the drum pads. Also last summer I picked up some cheap ass yamaha 4 pad drum thingy from a pawn shot for like 50$, but it had midi ! So I took my sticks and tapped out beats. The thing is its kind of hard to tap out Hi Hit, Snare And Bass Drum when you only have 2 hands. There is a program called Drumgog, it reminds me of Wave Replace for DigiDesigns PROTOOLS. Its alright,it replaces the peeks with what ever sample you want. So if you had 2 mics and panned them Left and right, You could make a drum kit out of your knees or desk. Anyway If you want some more tips or whatever ICQ me or something Im an Audio whore and love to talk about it. Recently I was approached by a deathmetal band with no drummer. I worked on their album and programmed the drums. We used Wav replace (Pro tools) to replace the KRAFTWORK sounding drums to more... err.... what ever the fuck death metal people like drums lol. Check it out www.mp3.com/Funeral_Fog Oh and as always www.mp3.com/oxygenfad : ) |
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