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hm i don't think many of you will be interested, but maybe wmw ? so, what are fractals ? B. Mandelbrot: A rough or fragmented geometric shape that can be subdivided in parts, each of which is (at least approximately) a reduced/size copy of the whole. Mathematical: A set of points whose fractal dimension exceeds its topological dimension. now, the contest is: make a fractal song, knowing the two facts above, and post it on the net. i wanted to make something like this for myself, but i have no idea how. maybe some of you can make something like this ?? |
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nice fractal site: oh they are so wonderful |
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wow... the second topic i get no answer... i suck |
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[answer]dude, what?[/answer] |
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look at the mandelbrot explanation. every small part of a fractal is a changed part from the whole thing. you CAN make such a song. just have to imagine. |
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hehe i know i was foolin' around and besides i have to learn to make a 'normal' track first, only then i can get busy on that mandelbaum stuff of yours :) this will be in approximately 400 years |
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you have to make to look at the pictures to understand it clearly |
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(fuck i sometimes really hate this "foolin arround" thing on the board.... but almost all the time that's exactly what the board is about... i love it :) |
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www.mp3.com.au/hummer listen to the track red ballon in the sky all it is, is the pads you can hear in the background then the same pads speeded up and pulsed over the top so its all the same thing but smaller versions of the whole thing is that what ur lookin 4? |
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is this just a contest you made up? or is there actually an official contest going on? Im so down for this |
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fractals are so goa/psytrance |
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im gonna give this a go, not today tho, im far to tired right now. i really like these 'mini mix comps' people come up with |
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my friend made a program that makes ambient soundscapes from cutting up samples with a fractal based code, that can be assigned to any parameter its really awesome |
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is any availiable to d/l or stream |
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no :-\ sorry. |
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whoa! this is quite a coincidence i was just reading about fractal music today... here is a site for you: |
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Sort of like a fractal based granular synthesis? Sounds cool. |
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I've written something like this before, but the important thing in fractals is symmetry. You don't have to use symmetry to specifically fractals even. A fractal is "scaling symmetry". This means that ANYTHING can be shrunk/expanded and somehow incorporated together with the previous size to make something interesting. I think I know the reason symmetry is interesting in our brains. It is because we evolved to classify objects/ to find differences between them. But when you look up and see two castles on two hillsides that are exactly the same in complexity, your brain can't distinguish them even though they are seperate objects. I guess this is the mechanism that produces the zen like/drug like effect... malfunctioning logic I guess. For an example of something that uses symmetry but isn't fractal in structure... say, flip an object around (mirror symmetry) or have some drawing in one frame and in each next frame (maybe in an animation) gradually change one small part. or you can have a circle and then fiddle with it's outline, making an oval or some other weird shape... "similar but slightly different"- that's ususually what interests me. |
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not really a contest. i don't have webspace yet so it would be difficult. and i don't think this could be another xltronic remix :) |
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whoo im doing an essay on fractals... well i should be but im pushing it to the deadline caus im lazy... and i was gonna incorporate some fractal music stuff but i didnt understand a fuck of it.. i downloaded FractMus or something and it sounded crap anyone has some examples of good fractal music |
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i dont trust math for nuthin its all just a bunch of big words |
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this just reminded me that i need to go and get the fractal explorer plug-in for photoshop (or whatever it's for. can't remember). that thing's a lot of fun when you're not in your right mind. *shrugs* |
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hm... one submission |
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really cool idea sadist... maybe use the same generative techniques to make graphic fractals and apply that to audio |
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at this moment i have not actually recorded any of my generative music but i got something that sounds kinda fractaly (composed) www.design.ucla.edu/~tenzin/Narrative.mp3 |
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two submissions... oh i see that more difficult contest's aren't very popular |
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Probably been posted before, but this is an excellent bit of software: http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xaos/winxaos31 .pre3.zip you can do real-time zooming, which is nice... |
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does the song have to be fully composed by fractals, or can you add drums, etc? i probably wont participate, but i was just wondering about more specific rules like this? is there a deadline? |
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ill be doing it.. but since you havnt given a deadline... I am gonna take as long as I want. 1-2 months |
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no deadline, i just wanted to some idea for making some music. and i want to hear your interpretations of the fractal music. this is quite interesting. please post your submissions in this thread. when i make something i post it, too |
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Great track, Mr. Tenzin I put an old track that I like "a fractal brewing of fraggles" back at www.mp3.com/artificialselection if you've never heard it. |
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