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offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 19:47 [#00722533]
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i have recently been interesed in erik satie's work. i know
little to nothing about him, other than the few clips of his
work i have heard and a BIG endorsement from wes anderson
(who is my second favorite director under david lynch). i am
COMPLETELY blown away by one piece in particular i think you
should all here if you love piano at all... gymnopedie #1.
it is an amazing piece of music. i find it MUCH more
emotionally effecting than debussy, stockhausen, or any
other semi-modern pianists out there. it hits some strong
melancholic chords with me. amazing! i will be ordering his
best of cd from naxos when i get the money.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-05-31 19:50 [#00722537]
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i bought one of his records for a dollar


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-31 19:52 [#00722538]
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Satie was a genius where he played simple phrases leading
towards something but would miss out notes when you they
should be there!!! The genius is in the notes that are
missing, not the played ones...


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-31 19:53 [#00722540]
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i love gymnopedie #1.. i can play both the melody line and
the bass line on piano..



 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 19:54 [#00722541]
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sweet.... i really want to get some sheet music and learn
that


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-31 19:56 [#00722543]
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Yes, he's fantastic. I first heard the gymnopedie 1 at the
end of the film My Dinner with Andre - it perfectly suited
the bittersweet melancholy of the ending...

I think his gnossiennes are the best. I can play the first
one on piano - barely -

There's some of his stuff at the classical midi archives - sounds
nice if you have a decent wavetable rig. And it's a great
way to learn the pieces, since you can change the tempo and
step thru the notes.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-31 19:57 [#00722544]
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i can type the notes here to the melody if you want :P
its really fun to play the songs you like, i assume you know
the basic scale and where the notes are on the piano? :P



 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 19:59 [#00722548]
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yeah, sure do... if you give me the right hand work, i can
probably figure out the left hand easily. it sounds like a
basic bassnote accompaniment.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-31 20:02 [#00722552]
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as I was saying..........it's sooooo simple but!!!! each
resolve doesn't! find the notes that are missing, then
you'll learn something.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 20:05 [#00722559]
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its all about the pause and timing. how certain notes hit
together to make you think you know what it's doing.
insinuating a chord progression, rather than giving it to
you. involving the listener in the piece.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-31 20:09 [#00722563]
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alright here we go.. it's in 3/4ths and i'll present the
rest of the 'bar' with dots.
like |..e|a..| if you get me..
my english is not that good so i dont know all the music
terminology in english..
anyway, right hand part:

| . e g|f e h|g a h|c..

thats the basic melody line. and hold on for a sec


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 20:11 [#00722565]
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ok. no, it makes sense. i gotcha, thanks a ton.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-31 20:13 [#00722568]
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seize, wrong on one part there..
last part is |g a h|g


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 20:15 [#00722570]
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um, can i ask one question?

what the heck is H?

hahahahahaha i just realised it as im writing it down.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-31 20:15 [#00722571]
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whare the hell is the key "h"?


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-31 20:16 [#00722572]
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actually there is something wrong in there, it's 4:15 in the
moring and im kinda tired, but,
the last part is |a h(think its b in your country)c|g
so, |. e g|f e h|a h c|g.. then.. grah im so tired


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-31 20:17 [#00722576]
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yeah the last one is correct, and 'h' or 'b' is the key
before C.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-31 20:17 [#00722578]
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i can get you the rest too i just need some sleep right now.
:P



 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 20:18 [#00722580]
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b i know, but h?

get some sleep.

and thanks.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-31 20:19 [#00722583]
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You mongs - if you go fetch the midi tracks and load them up
in a decent sequencer you can see the sheet music.

Sheesh!


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 20:25 [#00722588]
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why you gotta bleed out your eyes, foo!

dont try and act like mark ryden didnt do your makeup!!!!!!


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-31 20:27 [#00722590]
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dude, i am SO in love with this stuff... wow! this like
changes everything for me! wow bob wow! trois gymnopedies, 5
nocturnes, gnossienne #5, etc... ALL WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-06-01 05:05 [#00722746]
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if you wanna play it on a keyboard I strongly recommend you
get a sustain pedal


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-01 05:48 [#00722763]
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i got my gymnopedie sheet music for piano here in pdf format

you don't have to be a member, you can just donwload it
gymnopedie 1 isn't really hard to play if you have some
years of pianoplaying experience imo (though trying to play
it as slow as r. de leeuw might make it a bit more difficult
:D)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-01 10:14 [#00722897]
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I have the piano sheetmusic for the gymnopedies and
gnossiennes, and play them regularly - they are an
intellectual challenge in their apparent simplicity and
directions -- a joy to play


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-01 10:38 [#00722928]
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Why is it that when Satie comes up people always feel the
need to justify the simple beauty of his music with
highfalutin' intellectual hoo-ha?


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-06-01 10:43 [#00722933]
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yeah, I'd say just play it and enjoy it, but then again,
that's just how I am...


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-01 14:03 [#00723087]
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what i think marlowe is saying is that it requires
concentration and being in a deep zone to play them well,
even though they are so aparently "simple". they are deeply
expressive pieces that require dedication (as satie himself
would say)


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-06-01 14:56 [#00723170]
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Nice tracks!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-01 19:25 [#00723476]
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i have a cd of some of his music, i just enjoy it.. fuck the
hoo-ha! i can't tell you what's great about it, i just think
it sounds good, and i do hear the influence on drukqs.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-02 04:36 [#00723832]
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hey I never introduced no hoo-ha! :P I was just talking
about them from a PERFORMER'S point-of-view!


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-02 05:33 [#00723917]
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check out frederic chopin if you like satie, especially
raindrops


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-02 06:03 [#00723937]
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I also have a lot of chopin piano sheetmusic - him and bach
are my favourites to play - playing chopin is transcendental
-- it's EXTREMELY spiritual


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-06-02 11:00 [#00724225]
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on a more modern tangent, i'd recommend harold budd and
brian eno's albums "the pearl" and "plateau of mirror."
maximum statement in minimal phrasing.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-02 11:05 [#00724231]
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I have a HORRIBLY goopy over-wrought rendition of some
Chopin nocturnes by Tamas Vasary. Can you recommend a better
version? I'm looking for something more geometric and
muscular, like a Glenn Gould approach...


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-02 14:54 [#00724460]
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heard the budd/eno stuff...love it!
heard chopin... love it! (particularly funeral march)
heard bach... prefer his guitar or organ stuff
glenn gould... never heard of him. recommend something?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-06-03 04:43 [#00725078]
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I have CDs of chopin as played by Evgeny Kissin, they are
good interpretations :)

tibbar - Glenn Gould is a pianist - he's particularly famed
for his renditions of bach pieces.


 

offline alnuit on 2003-06-03 05:56 [#00725185]
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Yeah...his version of the Goldberg Variations of Bach is
particularly stellar.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-06-03 08:45 [#00725415]
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Gould's Goldberg Variations is a bit too odd for me, I like
Tureck's and there's a good new one by Perahia.

I definitely recommend listening to at least one other
version besides Gould's ...


 


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