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offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 14:40 [#00715545]
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exactly

lighten up Titsworth... they aren't permanently damagaed or
anything...



 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 14:42 [#00715550]
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as i've said before it wasn't all noise... only about a
third of his set was noise, most of the stuff before that
was accessible to the majority of bjork fans.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 14:42 [#00715557]
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was it a sitting down concert?

i disagree. i think richard should exactly what he wants to
play. he probably knew that the audience would judge him.
little do they know that when he wants to he can play more
beautiful, emotional music than bjork could ever hope to.
their loss for writing him off without investigating his
huge diversity of work.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-26 14:45 [#00715564]
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can you blame them?

some of you really need to work on your sympathy instead of
championing this perverse pleasure of fucking over bjork
fans, even if they aren't "permanently damaged." performance
art is for queers ;P


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-26 14:47 [#00715568]
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you're not going to win any ground here Tits, some of these
tits are as predictable as the people they're dissin'.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 14:48 [#00715571]
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"he can play more
beautiful, emotional music than bjork could ever hope to."

never listened to vespertine or homogenic then?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-26 14:49 [#00715573]
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i know, i know... and i said i'd agree to disagree, so i'm
going to get my ass to the grocery store. wanna play me,
earthleakage, and LeCoeur in iSketch later?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-26 14:51 [#00715579]
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I might just do that!


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2003-05-26 14:53 [#00715582]
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I see what you are saying to Titsworth and i partly agree.
However if Napalm Death cant stop playing metal Aphex cant
help trying to shock his listeners/fans .
Hes like an evil little Andy Kaufman hiding behind his
Laptop gigeling , its his whole persona and image.

But maybe we shouldn't speculate to much , im sure the full
backround on this gig will show up in an interview or
something.Journalists love this kind of stuff.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 14:56 [#00715585]
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i'll agree the noise part probably did go on a little too
long, a short 10 min noise set after the accessible stuff
would have been better i guess.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2003-05-26 14:56 [#00715587]
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i shouldn't say "shock"
"Surprice" is a better word.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-26 15:01 [#00715596]
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Aw shucks! That Rich is such a character!

It's things like this, kind or cruel, that make him the
mythical beast he is and always will be.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-26 15:08 [#00715608]
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i'd personally expect that bjork fans are open minded when
it comes to music...well, i hope i dont meet any of these
ppl that are bitchin about what afx was playing on sonar -
people like this that dont fit into afx gig...i just cant
enjoy if people around me dont get into right mood


 

offline bird from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-05-26 15:26 [#00715659]
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haha! yeah, i was jus thinking... i can see where titsworth
comes from.
You're also much better at arguing than me (thats a
compliment..) but y'know, without idealism, where go the
ideas? ... i'm probably much younger than you too.
also, theres a fine line between being snobbish and being
'cheeky' i think..

and while we're ..at it.. windowlicker in a mercedes ad?
yeah... . . .. i hate shit like that. Billboards make me
depressed, but then i get happy when the sun comes up...
etc~


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 15:52 [#00715709]
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i didn't mean to dis' bjork. i'm sure she's done some very
beautiful music.

what gets me is that these fans didn't say "i didn't like
the supporting act" or something similar, they basically
said it was utter shite. that is narrow minded.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-26 16:04 [#00715732]
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i cant stop the laugh


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 17:00 [#00715819]
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ah that's funny, what a cock! I think he must have been
having an absolute laugh making a miserable time for the
bjork fans

hating 2 hours of feedback isn't being 'narrow minded'

I doubt he's made many friends, but then he's never needed
them has he, since aphex fans would listen to an album of
him growing a container of marigolds


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-26 17:01 [#00715821]
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"of
him growing a container of marigolds"

if it would sound good...then most definitely!


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 17:21 [#00715853]
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it wouldn't need to sound good to sell..


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-26 17:21 [#00715855]
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it'll be a grower...

hahahah

sorry...


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-05-26 18:24 [#00715895]
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that is absolutely awesome. i think he has every right to
play whatever the hell he wants to play. he shouldn't have
to cater his set to fit the tastes of bjork fans.
i was also under the impression, being a fan of bjork
myself, that most of her fans had some appreciation for the
type of music he was playing. i doubt it was entirely
"noise", but if it was hardcore chaos and jarring noise,
more power to him. fits with his persona he seems to have
created, and to me thats hilarious.


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2003-05-26 19:43 [#00715948]
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i dont give a good god damn if he has the right to play
whatever he wants or not, or whatever. just that it's kind
of a stupid thing to do. but that's aphex. when i saw pat
metheny trio in concert, he played his regular jazz
standards, and so on, but broke out into a noise piece for
twenty minutes, and went on. were he to come out and play
the whole show as noise, i would have walked out, even
though he is my favorite artist in every sense of the word.
just because someone comes out and performs that way, doesnt
make that person a genius. my two cents.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-26 19:48 [#00715953]
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well, it was announced and as I understand the bar was open,
so people could just walk away and return later.

now all the liddul björk fans were all shook up. ha.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-26 19:49 [#00715956]
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he probably just couldnt be bothered and thought he'd have a
laugh. and why not?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-26 20:57 [#00716036]
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thanks joey i'm glad some people can see it from my point of
view..

earthl, how can you piss away a gig with bjork? that's
shameful :P


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-26 20:59 [#00716039]
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is it?

she asked AFX to dj. this is part of the package.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-05-26 21:25 [#00716051]
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"i always love these calm little moments before the storm".


 

offline bird from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-05-27 00:30 [#00716170]
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hahaaaa!! i've got 2 mins of aphexs' 'noise'..
you can hear voices saying how he's ruined the concert or
something! and them booing!
but its wicked~ This isn't crap noise, such as cellphones
and loud voices.
God, if you REEEEEALLY want to go there, its already
classified as a 'genre'. So any new music lover shouldn't
boo... come on.....

Does anyone have his whole set??

can't stop laughing either cunty!


 

offline bird from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-05-27 00:38 [#00716175]
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....classified..... as a genre...
well, what i mean there are already lots of music makers
specializing in this 'certain sound' of music.
bla bla..
not so good with words bla bla...


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-27 03:13 [#00716244]
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"hating 2 hours of feedback isn't being 'narrow minded'"

does anyone actually read my posts? Its wasn't 2 hours of
feedback, 2/3 of the set was accessible, stop making it out
worse than it actually was.


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-05-27 03:14 [#00716246]
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this is incredible, how long since he did not do a "fuck
you" gig like 10 years ago? i say it's a new start for him,
remember it's that kind of things that made him the
cunt-legend he is, and yes every fans could walk away and
come back at 9'o'clock instead of standing there
but the dj'ing was dodgyy i read somewhere, maybe afx was
all pissed in fact, anyway i think he wanted to test tracks
macking people angry with them, results : A+ !!!


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-27 03:17 [#00716247]
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IS ANYBODY LISTENING TO SPIKEY????


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-27 03:17 [#00716248]
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I MEAN PANTALAIMON!!!!


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-27 03:21 [#00716252]
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glad i went to the Apollo, just found out Aphex didn't open
for her at Sheperds Bush.


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-27 03:38 [#00716259]
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It is funny....Aphex is actually not much further away from
being a Christina Aguilera or a one-man-Backstreet Boy right
now...he can pretty much put out plain shit for the rest of
his lives and know that there are rabid fans out there that
will buy it and hail it to the skies...There is not a way in
hell some people will ever call a trashy Aphex song to his
face. Not anymore atleast. And he knows that.

Yes. The man is a genius. Yes. He has more musical talent in
his pinky than many others do in through their whole being.
But for all that, he is also got a demented mad side...and
for what it is worth, he exercises it just as often as his
musical side. He can, and in the past has, made music that
is far superior to much else that has been created...but
sometimes, he just takes the piss. What can you say about a
guy that puts sandpaper to a turntable and amplifies a
blender for samples?

He is crazy. And a genius. But maybe a bigger genius because
more often that not, no one knows if he is being crazy or a
genius.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-27 04:12 [#00716273]
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you ever thought he's doing this wicked things just to
please himslef - whether he actually likes that noise he
does or just to see ppl going "what the hell is he doing" -
and so he's not concerned about what will ppl think of him
and whether they will buy or not his music, but doing it
mainly to please him self??

im one of those ppl that would buy anything by him...if i
wouldnt like it i wouldnt listen to it...but still i would
buy it!


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-27 04:19 [#00716278]
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Yes, infact that is what I think. The fact is that he is THE
first techno 'superstar'. But the way he became that is by
total dedication to his craft. And now he is at that point
where he can hang up his gig, and call it a day. The very
fact that he has not means that he is an intensly creative
person whose music comes from a place that is real. He is
not a Christina or a N'Sync because he panders to his
audience...but because he is his own man and does his own
thing.

All I am saying is that, whatever the reason, and however
honorable your road to getting to be superstar, once you get
there... it is a dangerous place to be, because it could
lead to complacency. And don't get me wong, I love that
Mr.James as much as the other guy... he is a lovable rascal.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-27 04:27 [#00716286]
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same here, i collect his stuff for the sake of it, but
imagine this;

what if he released somethin' like: 'selected silence
works'
, and it would contain a blank cd in a jewelcase
with a sticker which said it was by aphex twin, or he
released 'monotone bubblebath' and it would contain
only one tone throughout the whole cd.. or something like
'high frequency works' with sounds that are not in
the range of frequencies which humans can hear

it would be beyond stupid to spend money on stuff like that,
but still i think i might just buy it (which makes me an
idiot i know.. but hey, he would be an idiot too 'cause he
released stuff like that).. i guess

of course it'll never happen (well.. with him you never
know) but i think about things like this often


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-27 04:35 [#00716291]
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Well, he has already released 'high frequency sounds' as a
part of a single. What is to stop him from releasing more?

And the blank composition wouldn' be a new idea. John Cage
already did that in 4:33, although his intent was completely
different.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-27 05:52 [#00716380]
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i seen the fucker 6 times now, live and along with his
braindance crew, Mike dredd, Cylob and Squarepusher fucking
NOBODY can touch his musical genious DJíng or live. I´m an
absolute regular concert goer... jazz, gospel, rock, techno,
house etc and EVERYTHING is fucking shit boring compared to
one of RDJ´s shows. He just does things with melodies,
beats and noise that is beyond comprehension to me. Check
out the Sonar gig... the noise part. You just know he spends
time at hoemwith an idea nobody has done, trashes it out and
works on it and then gives it t us live. He loves music and
loves mashing it up, unbound my rules etc. Bring it on. Roll
on Sonar 2003!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-27 08:32 [#00716556]
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wow, you put that really nice...i agree with everything
you're saying!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-27 08:33 [#00716561]
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i would definitely buy those releases if he made them...i
doubt i'd listen tho, as i dont listen to that high
frequency sound :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-27 08:35 [#00716563]
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that is exactly how i feel about it...when he's doing a gig
with other people, he totally outshines all the rest!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-27 08:37 [#00716567]
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that's insane.

it has little to do with loving his music anymore, then.
just loving the myth of AFX.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-27 08:39 [#00716570]
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it is insane, but i'd do it just to have it all :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-27 08:45 [#00716577]
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im certain of one thing tho...it was his music that brought
me to this insanity!
when i started to listen his music i didnt know anything
about him...it was all about the music, and he's definitely
not the only artist i'd buy such records from; there are
others whos music i really love and it doesnt matter at all
how it sounds, i buy it anyway - its weird but its how i do
:D


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-28 02:06 [#00717572]
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there's a very nice live mp3 on www.sobjork.tk titled
"Desired Constellation"

does anyone know what album this is from?


 

offline 777 from Oulu (Finland) on 2003-05-28 02:50 [#00717585]
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it's brand new.


 

offline diablo on 2003-05-28 03:55 [#00717637]
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This isn't family entertainment, this is music. So he make a
few Bjork fans cry... you can't make an omlette without
breaking a few eggs.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 03:58 [#00717639]
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i think this review on the bjork site was a bit harsh:

"I have all of the Aphex Twin's albums, including the recent
awful double one. I listen to a diverse range of music, some
of it 'difficult', 'challenging', 'noisy'. Frankly, I was
totally bored by the Twit's lack of performance. The most
excited I got was in wondering how he could be fiddling
around so much to produce so little effect. At first it
sounded random, uninspired and tedious. Towards the end it
sounded contrived, uninspired and tedious. When the audience
expressed their displeasure (and why shouldn't they? They
paid to see Björk!) he and his friend waved their fists at
us. Showing total contempt for your audience will win nobody
over. I made it to the gig despite feeling exhausted from
having an evil chest infection. I don't drink, so the
prospect of sitting bored in the bar was only mildly more
enticing than watching AFX man make a complete tit of
himself. Frankly, the Aphex Acid went stale sometime after
1996."


 


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