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anyone have martial arts experience? during the autumn i took tae kwon do for three months but i've been out of it since December. i'm considering signing up again following my high school graduation. what i've found in general is that it's highly beneficial for your body physically and mentally. |
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I wish i could kick ass |
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dont do tae kwon do. if you ever get in a fight with a Kung Fu or Aikido guy, you're screwed. |
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follow the shaolin path, pachi. I recommend 'the art of shaolin kungu' 'the complete book of zen' and 'the complete book of tai chi chuan', all by wong kiew kit, to be studied completely -- you won't need to go to some crap classes, and you're whole being and body will be enriched quicker and better also. |
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no,but i'd love to take kung fu someday. |
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that's the discipline I study - scrap the 'someday' at the end of your post, and just do it now. |
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good idea =) i've occasionally felt there was aesthetic superiority in shaolin compared to other branches of martial art. so i don't need classes at all for shaolin? |
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not really -- certainly not for the first year at least. When you're more advanced, you'll find a teacher 'when the student is ready, the teacher appears.' |
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blue belt and 2 years training in tetsudo... a tibetan martial art |
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Ya, I know. I jsut wanna do it but I don't have the cash for courses right now. My ex-bf has been doing it for years and it's amazing... not just the physical act but the mental and spiritual training. |
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I did Tae kwon do for a couple of months...the I moved and I stoped... very cool martial art though... |
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you don't need to take classes; study alone for one to two years to prepare the foundation - then, when you join the classes, you'll find that you're very advanced. people, don't be conned or duped into thinking you have to join some kind of dilted marital arts 'school'! they're only really any good for sparring. |
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but I wouldn't know what to do? maybe i could get a book.. or something? |
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*diluted |
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yes, get the three books I've already mentioned, by shaolin master wong kiew kit. he has a website too - google his name for the wahnam school of shaolin (that's his). of course, if you happen to live near one of HIS schools, then enrol it you can, by all means. |
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so, do you do this for its art form, or so you can kick peoples asses? Personally, Im a pacifist... and I have no wish to learn to fight... I took karate when I was a kid... like 10 years old I think... anyways, I would never hit the other person, and I always got my ass kicked... cause I just didnt find the point of hitting the other person... *shrug* |
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awesome thanks. |
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so, do you do this for its art form, or so you can kick peoples asses? Gyms are boring.... I need to excercise for time to time... |
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well, you don't need to be an aggressor, as i am also a pacifist. however, it is convenient to have an arsenal of intangible weapons, so to speak. |
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I used to do Jujitsu called "Tenjin Shinyro" it was fucking great. It was a mixture of Judo and Jujitsu. It was the one that was practised mostly in Japan and China in the early ages. There are only like 5 people who offically practise it throughout the world. It was fucking brilliant. My Gui was so shredded afterwards. |
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I don't speak for the lesser martial arts, but shaolin is not about macho preening. The emphasis is on living a good and healthy life, with the ultimate goal being union with the One; it is spiritual but non-religious. It condemns using the art for selfish or shallow means. (ie wanting to kick ass so you look 'good'.) |
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exactly. in fact, one of the principles of martial art is to eliminate the "macho". |
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"the one" explain more? "ie wanting to kickass" yes, but you still have to fight right? is there an practice that is totally about self defence? like no offensive stuff what so ever? |
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judo is kinda totally self defense o.O |
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01) 'the one' is different things to different people - to the Religious, it is God/Allah, to others it is The Universe/The Universal Consciousness... and to others it is something else. 02) no, you do not have to fight - the fighting aspect of shaolin is not a customary requirement, and is in fact considered the lowest priority - it is Malkuth to the spiritual Kether of shaolin. |
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I should clarify: the forms, techniques, and force training are an integral part of shaolin - these are the things that will help a person to fight or defend themselves if it is absolutey necessary they do so. but this is not what shaolin is about, and any special focus on this is unfair. |
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i was banned because i strrangled some chump who was not strrong enough to get me off him. i wanted him to die because he made fun of me at school. this was yearrs ago. |
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wow, I would love to take part in course! |
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i train aikido. i love it. i was a few times on krav maga but that's just fuckin rambo shit |
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martial arts are about gaining confidence reading situations effectively understanding your personal limitations broadening & controlling your physical and emotional scope overcoming traumas / obstacles socialising with other people Its not about kicking ass. such competition is limited to the very senior grades in my artform, and even then the onus is on out-manouevring the opponent without injuring them. Your main opponent is yourself. |
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i think i'm starting to realize that everyone might actually need martial arts. |
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has anyone gotten really hurt in their training? and... does it matter that i am unflexible as hell... i cant kick my leg higher then straight forward... hell, I dont even know if I can make it straight forward also... how much time a week do you spend doing it? |
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it's best to just give it a shot. it can hurt quite a bit when you're stretching, but all the warm-ups in the training will get your endorphines dancin'. there's a lot to it, but you will succeed gradually. you won't know what it's like 'til you try it. |
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first off, you need to spend 6 months just doing the warm-up exercises - such as the horse-riding stance, and to concentrate on loosening up your legs. At the same time, begin studying the meditative aspect of it. If you purchase the 3 key books I mentioned above, you will find that, with steady application, you will make progress very quickly. |
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yeah i got hurt.... my friend once almost broke my wrist.... so with flexibility, the more you train the more flexible you'll get. you just have to train hard. i train about two times sometimes three time a week. that's really much but i love it |
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Ah, to answer the last question, I personally train for 90 minutes every day, and the rest of the day I will put things into action (like maintaining balance, and I have always loved jumping on things (like signs and rails and stuff) - it seems juvenile, but really it's a good aid (and judge) of how well your balance is coming along. Ideally, you want to move the centre of gravity from the chest to just below the navel. |
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plus there's really not much planning on how to go about it. you have to be spontaneous and witted, but those concepts will develop at least after a couple months of training. it's also crucial to be relaxed while training. after a while your anxiety and overall stress level is reduced considerably. |
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yeah, it's great - because as you get better, that in turn creates more dedication and purity on your part (well, it did for me). It's like your components come together in some kind of holistic way. My next course of action is to study Traditional Chinese Medicine, and then to learn the language. I'm pretty sure my bloodline could be traced to the far-east. |
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There's a definite misunderstanding in thinking that you don't need to go to classes. No book or video compares to actually being trained by a master in the flesh, or being in a competetive surrounding such as a gym. Especially for the first 5 years it's extremely important to have a bonafide teacher to instruct you and to correct your mistakes, because there will be many you make. If you don't do this , you'll find it difficult to break away from what you've learned the wrong way as there's been no one to physically show you how to do things . Plus there's nothing like actually sparring with other participants of the artform so you can finally bring the stuff you learn into practice. You'll often find that it'll take a while before the "cool moves" are going to work in a real fight. |
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I'm not referring to learning from movies. But, it's better to study a great book by a master, than be in some duff Karate class with 40 members and not much actual training going on. Plus, like I said, for the first year or so, a class isn't required, as this should be spent in preparation for the advanced stuff. And when you reach that kind of level, than you need ONE teacher for ONE student, not a class. Like I said before, classes are ok for sparring. They're not necessarily going to make a person more competitive, as not everyone needs to manipulate themselves in that way. In fact, I don't even LIKE the word 'competitive' being used in connexion with shaolin, the purest martial art. |
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I've briefly studied a few kung fu styles, longest I've done was about 18 months Dragon Style, which I'll return to in september. I did Judo for 3 years and competed. I also fenced on and off for a couple of years. |
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actually, the shaolin monks teach in classes and with massive amounts of people at the same time too. From the most basic of moves they get guided and corrected in person. They all get to do the same "dull" basic moves en mass for years on end while very attentive masters corrects them all the time so I'm not sure where you get this idea from that a class isn't required, it is required from the ground up. |
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I was involved in Shootfighting a few years ago. (i.e. Joint Manipulation, Strangulation/Chokes, Pressure Points, and Striking.) I used to take more traditional martial arts, such as Japanese style Jui-Jitsu, Akido, and Akijitsu, but none of them worked for me in an actual free form fighting situation. Shootfighting uses anything that works, regardless of so-called "style". More of a philosophy than concrete style or technique. |
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it's not required because the moves are dull and mantric. As long are you're a reasonably intelligent and objective individual, I'm sure you could perform these tasks correctly. I ensure that I'm very critical and aware of my form and technique when I practice. Once my period of practice is over, then my teacher will appear. And, of course, you are speaking of the Shaolin Monks in the east... try finding a shaoling monastery in Aberdeen, Scotland. |
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I take Kung fu, and unlike Keanu Reeves, I know Kung Fu. |
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I did some Judo once, but i'm gonna start on Aikido soon.... Seems like a good idea. |
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