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ehhehe......i heard this song on the radio (great song too!) today and it made me think of something. how so many music acts today are popular and get played cos of the videos they make. it gets people into their music and makes them STARS. isn't it odd how not many IDM videos are played on MTV (dunno about much music) do you think it contributes to a lot of people NOT knowing more IDM musicians??? they barely know Aphex and he's been around forever...... |
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I think the 60's and 70's would've been totally different if music videos existed then... it's true, people become popular because of image, and not the music... it's pretty sick... as far as IDM is concerned though, I don't really think that it's not popular because it doesn't fit the image... I just think maybe the music is too "extreme" to fit in with the nice pop music that they play on mtv and muchmusic... I mean, Windowlicker is quite a funny and amusing video... very well done and all that! It's exactly the type of video that would do well on tv I think, but the song is not pop... |
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that song is by trevor horn, currently responsible for tatu and the genuis behind frankie goes to hollywood. |
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'IDM' isn't as underground as some will lead you to believe...a lot of it is how you play with effects in a music program, that's it. There used to be a cool show on european mtv that played allsorts of electronica but it's stopped now... 8 ( |
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i DO think windowlicker is one of Aphex's more accessable song. and the video is RAD!!! i mean some of these artists make music for years and since their vidoes are not played they don't get their due.....exposure wise, etc... i mean if you said Aphex, RDJ, or Squarepusher.....people say who. what......you say Brittney and they can tell you who she's dating.....it sucks IMAGE = everything in music....it's a sad but true fact! |
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And Richard wouldn't be nearly as popular as he is had Come To Daddy not made a few waves on MTV. Even though it didn't get N'Sync type rotation, the little exposure it got from the video was huge for an artist like Aphex Twin. |
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damn........i'm not surprised he's still putting out hits.......that song had me singing along and it's been YEARS since i've heard it on the radio.....ahhahhah the 'buggles' right? anyway he sure has a way with those POP songs..... jivver....why do you think it stopped. has it become less popular in europe? it DOES seem to me that the europeans are ahead of the game when it comes to this kind of music..... |
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I don't know! have you heard how loud the kick is in 'video killed the radiostar'! sorry, I'm drunk now........anything I say has to be taken with a pinch of salt..... |
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video killed the radio star was the first video played by mtv was it not? That's kinda cool! |
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MTV is shit. |
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*brews coffee* i'm not sure what you mean by KICK ?, but that song is RAD baby.....RAD!!! |
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bass drum |
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ok.....here's another thought i think in this day in age of music videos, etc etc.......that LOOKS = MUSIC career, more than TALENT = MUSIC career i think it's 50/50 look/talent......if not more LOOKS......how sad is THAT! bonus points if you bare you breasts or ass as much as possible in videos! |
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heh, I watched a behind the music episode about 1979 or 1980 or something... anyways, it was the first year of MTV... and they did say that the start of music television did mean the end of some singers careers... and they mentioned that guy who sang the song Sailing as one of the casulties... but hey, maybe that's a good thing!! :) |
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Like kick drum I believe... |
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ummm i don't pay attention to drums.....YIPES! however it's true. if you don't look good in tight jeans and or tight shirts or have a 6 pack.....forget about getting on TRL mtv is crap, but lets face it, it's numbah one for a reason. thats what everyone goes to for direction on music buying, etc... if i were a manager, i know eggactly what would sell records...T & A.....it's sick.....women becoming OBJECTIFIED.......suckOrZ |
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P J proby used to stitch his pants really loosly so they'd come apart during his performance....Elvis emulated some of it for his performance. It has switched around where it's boobs and fanny etc!......... |
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rod stewart? i only wish it was |
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Well LeCoeur... Not eberyone is interested in art...just look how packed are museums... What Mtv give is enteratainment...and that's what people want... The cd in the end is just merchandising... |
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well i wouldn't mind some hunka hunka buring love's pants falling off......ERRR did i just say that.......ahahhah anyway, a friend works in LA where they sell those TIGHT TIGHT pants to those RAWK stars who still wear them, and they routinely have to restich certain areas....=0) |
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thing is people USED to be......does a generation REALLY change things so much? i guess the answer is YES but it's crazy, cos these boy/girl bands and flesh revealing music artists are just so lame. i saw the effects when i went to the mall recently (i avoid them like the plague) i saw stores selling lil kiddy clothes called TORRID, WET SEAL, etc....and all these clothes were for LIL kiddos...... loss of innocense is so sad, and they don't even realize it! |
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*kiss* |
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awwwww i know i'm RANTING, but it drives me nuts sometimes! i don't want my nieces to become lil christina aguillera look a likes......=/ |
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It's allways been there, just let your kids have some fun before they are force fed that nonsense. |
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yuppers.......i wish they didn't watch so much TV..........bahhhhhh doesn't really matter since the arguement is academic......things won't change despite wishing they would |
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Christopher Cross was the guys name... |
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MTV are brainwashers |
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<---- future of our children, parading around in their panties for horny pimple faced teens and attention starved sluts on xltronic |
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hey, I get plenty of attention!! :) |
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all people need attention |
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<--- does the forbidden dance as a sign of deep sympathy for people who need to talk about their ass to get attention |
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I don't need to talk about my ass... it does all the talking BABEE!!! *does exotic ass shaking dance* |
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even babies need to talk about their behinds to get attention. they do it through crying when they have a diaper accident, you see. |
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if you want my body and you think im sexy come on sugar let me know if you really need me just reach out and touch me come on honey tell me so! |
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>I dont know if tv killed the radio star... I think its obvious that tv killed the good musician... but v generated the silly, empty and musicless star in spain tv programs about music are fucking shit... not even about mainstream pop... its the crappiest shit what they put... and thats what little children and teens watch, so grea!!! ourkids are growing up thats music sad |
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Well at least my nephew (and probably niece as well) are getting exposure to good music, or at least different music thanks to me. I try to play a little Aphex Twin here, a little Autechre here... usually anything with a thumping beat gets my nephew going. |
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i saw a very trippy aphex twin video for schotkey 7th path on mtv chillout zone once... surprised the shit out of me. woke up at a friends house totally wasted and it was on, i was like wtf, and then fell asleep again. Also, Come to Daddy was played a HELL of a lot on mtv, everyone in school was talking about the "scary" video that was being shown on mtv, and also windowlicker's always on that mtv x-rated show. Apart from that though, i know what you're talking about.. But do we really want idm on tv and in the mainstream? I'm happy with it where it is.. I'm glad it's not something every shithead is into.. |
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Image is everything Thirst is nothing |
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Kinda interesting how Sprite claims to be against image, and denounces it and all that... yet that is it's image... some people probably fall for it too... "Oooh, sprite is so hardcore!!!" :) |
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whats wrong with IDM being liked by the masses?? i don't think you have the RIGHT attitude about music. why should it be exclusive? you want these guys to MAKE a living, make money, so they can KEEP making more and more music. i don't think that RDJ or any of the others would mind if people would sell out music shoppes when their albums were released. don't be fooled by those artists who say they don't wanna be popular, not true. they would rather make some cash and have the money to keep making music. |
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i like idm where it is too, LeCoeur. I think it's at such a cool level of popularity. I like the way small labels handle things themselves (how cool is it that toytronic is run by gimmik and friends? or that autechre is at the top of the skam foodchain?). it's fun to feel closer to the music you listen to...that's something i don't really feel when i listen to bjork because i am one in a million. if i email trent reznor, he's not gonna get back to me. but say i drop a note to crunch -- i might get a response. i agree, good artists deserve recognition, but i think they get a lot more out of small things when things are on a small scale. and as for the money-making issue...i'm always going to be the one to say you don't need money to make music. there are plenty of musicians with jobs on the side. a lot of people would love to do something they would perhaps consider a hobby for a living...but not everyone can do it, and i love when people understand this! |
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oh man your avatar is incredible :D |
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and by "cool level of popularity" i dont mean, oh it's underground so it is cool, i mean that i am comfortable and happy with it. |
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reminds me of kid606's song: MP3 Killed The CD Star |
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how ridiculous, through and through. sorry. seems a bit selfish to me to want to keep "idm" artists in the back corner of your pocket like that. it's the sort of elitist attitude that keeps this music from gaining more popularity. |
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i feel that way too. i often worry that we're doing the wrong thing by hiding our music from mass populations, yet we rant about how corrupt pop music is these days. maybe one day the idm influence would spread like a wildfire? who knows..? all music should be shared, and who gives a damn of not everyone likes a particular genre? there's something for everybody out there! |
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couldn't disagree with you more. and i'm sure RDJ and other IDM artists would prolly feel the same way. ask an artist on this MB if he wouldn't LOVE to have his music played on the radio, and his CD to sell 1000's of copies, i'd be interested to see how many would say 'not me, not me' i want my music to be heard by only a FEW people. artists would prolly do anything to give up their 'side job' to concentrate on MUSIC full time, who wants to do some crappy job when you'd rather be creating art, or music. the arguement just doesn't make sense! btw....you're wrong about mr reznor as well. i'm sure if you got thousands of fan emails gushing all over you wouldn't answer, HOWEVER if you got a clever one, or something that asked a serious or whimsicle question they'd answer. music artists REALLY are just normal people, who ususally wanna be treated as such. |
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just one other comment........ which is why i started this topic. the videos that cunningham and rdj made are fantastic.....like mini movies, it's a SHAME others have not been able to see it. i mean they do all this work, not for themselves, but for so others can get something out of it. |
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i really don't think that i am the shit for liking this kind of music honestly...i don't think i have an elitist attitude about the genre at all actually. sure, maybe it is a little selfish of me to like feeling CLOSER to the artists i like, but i don't think that's it's SUCH a terrible thing. i like that when an idm show comes around, it isn't going to be in an arena, and i'm actually going to be able to see the stage (even if it is just knob twiddling ;-)). i like that when funkstorung shows up in town, i am not going to have to pay a ticket scalper a chunk of change to go see it. i am not saying that the great artists out there dont deserve recognition and even money. it is just my opinion that being an artist full time is a luxury that most people have no chance of getting. with my previous post, i wasn't really trying to touch on the fact that artists would love to reach a wide audience. of course they would...it just seems less overwhelming the way it is. i like that i get goodies like handpainted pictures with shipments of records! i think it's wonderful that everyone seems to know everyone else in this genre. there are just so many cool things about idm the way it is right now that i wouldn't mind terribley if it stayed like this for a while... |
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i'll agree with you that intimacy in a live venue is very important for this type of music, but i disagree with everything you said before cos it's counter to everything good about music and a slap in the face to artists who don't want to have to work a full time job just so they can afford to buy a couple synths. so many people already do, and more importantly, WOULD love this style of music if they only heard it. that said, i think you clarified yourself pretty well though mimi! i can identify with what you're saying even if i fundamentally disagree on some major points. |
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