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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-24 05:56 [#00712599]
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Having a discusion over at watmm... but I want your guys advice as well...
can pot lead to permanent insanity?
I ask, because when ever I smoke, I just go nuts. I scream alot, and ramble on about complete jibberish, and just generally, I feel like this is what insanity feels like.
My friends just laugh... but do you think it could lead to something bad?
I only smoke like 3, sometimes 4 times a month... but everytime I smoke, its like I get more nutso.
thoughts?
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-05-24 05:58 [#00712602]
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I get totally para man on the old Jazz Cigarettes. I used to toke a heavy wad aw the stuff so noo am jist stickin tae a heavy cargo noo and then
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diablo
on 2003-05-24 05:59 [#00712604]
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This is nothing new. Remember the black n white film "reefer madness"
I think, yes it can cause problems for some people, but put in perspective, I think alcohol can do more damage... I mean how many mad homeless people are stoners rather than alcoholics?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-05-24 05:59 [#00712605]
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to answer your question: yes
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-24 06:00 [#00712607]
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wow thats pretty scary. i've never heard of those effects before. as far as i know, you cant go insane from pot but dont take my word for it. i would go to the shroomery forums and ask this in general questions.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-24 06:00 [#00712608]
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Yeah there is rare cases of people kind of dissapering into a psychosis.
I know a guy who used to be a really funny and cool person who now can't even remember his own name. Sad.
Maybe it is dangerous if you alredy have mental problems ? i don't know.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-24 06:01 [#00712609]
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It is proven that in people with a pre disposition to depression it can trigger attacks. It is also known to trigger psychosis on occasions, but other than the risk of lung related disease I don't think there are any recognised long term mental effects.
Obviously with any drug people can suffer from side effects, but every one talks shit when they are smoking weed :D
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-24 06:01 [#00712611]
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maybe I have underlying mental problems... just waiting to come out?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-24 06:02 [#00712613]
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well... I DO have depression...
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-24 06:03 [#00712614]
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Probably not...I know loads of people who go strange when they smoke weed. One of my mates goes through an entire exercise routine. Makes a cup of tea...sits down, starts talking about shit and falls to sleep. Same every single time
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-24 06:04 [#00712617]
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Do you have diagnosed clinical depression or "i don't feel to happy today" kind of depression? If it is clinical you should stay the fuck away from weed.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-24 06:04 [#00712618]
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Any history of mental problems in your family?
When i smoke (not often at all) i usually shut the fuck up cause i know everything i say will be bullshit hahhahaha.
I prefer drinking.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-24 06:04 [#00712619]
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maybe ill record what I say next time... to get some perspective
i just always say stuff, then stop, and think, jesus, I sound like a psycho
but then I do it more
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-24 06:06 [#00712623]
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lol, everyone does that though. Me and a friend had a 2 hour argument on the best way to kill and nun and hide the body from God :D
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-24 06:06 [#00712624]
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clinical
150 megs of zoloft right now...
history in my family? not of psyhcosis... but a looong history of depression
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-24 06:24 [#00712643]
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my estranged Pops, who has smoked pot for 40 years straight, is the most laziest bastard i know but he has a lot of freinds, has a sweet life with low rent in Paris and is a fucking helluva nice, chiiled out dude.
I´d rather be a decent father to my kids if i ever have them though, so i gave up.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-05-24 06:24 [#00712644]
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pot can make you paranoid, which can make you go mad if you don;t controll it, but that goes for pretty much most drugs
I know a girl who won't leave the house on her own cause she gets so stressed out, all due to pot.
I get noidy sometimes too ! I hate going to the bathroom on my own cause I spin myself out. I know it's just me though, which is where the line is drawn.
I don't actualy belive that a giant spider is going to come up and bite my bum, I just think about it............. (did I just think that or actually say it =os)
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-05-24 06:26 [#00712646]
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smoking dope with depression is a BAD idea, especialy of your on medication.
You get to thinking when your stoned, and things can get out of hand
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Spacecadet
on 2003-05-24 06:28 [#00712648]
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i think long term use can lead to paranoid dementia, i saw a program called 'cannabis psychosis' kinda made me cut down a bit
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-05-24 06:35 [#00712656]
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it can trigger schizophrenia, that was the conclusion of a recently research about the effects of cannabis
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-05-24 06:38 [#00712659]
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linky
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-24 06:38 [#00712661]
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both my dads are schizo
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-05-24 06:40 [#00712662]
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imo opinion that research ain't quite conclusive, just so happens that weed is a common factor associated with schizophrenia etc. ... lots of other variables not accounted for .. that aside - it is worth keepin in mind. schizophrenia isn't usually that pleasant an illness :/
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diablo
on 2003-05-24 06:41 [#00712665]
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Basically, if you feel it is not doing you any good, stop. It's not for everyone. A couple of my friends don't smoke pot any more coz they found the negative effects outweighed the positive. They don't have an issue with me smoking with them there and I respect them for stopping.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-05-24 06:41 [#00712666]
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yeah
If Me, Myself and Irene is anything to go by =os
lol
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Frag
from New Jersey (United States) on 2003-05-24 06:50 [#00712671]
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same scenario, i think
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-24 06:52 [#00712673]
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"And if it was a fifth, then we'd all be stoned But if I don't drink and drive then how the fuck am I gone get home?
I can't stop smokin weed cause I ain't no quitter But since it's killin my brain cells maybe I should reconsider (You wouldn't
dear!) Nah, but all the non-fixture niggas is you in here?"
Onyx-Most Def
Sometimes the simplest rhymes are the best.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-24 06:57 [#00712675]
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NYERR NYERR NYERR
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-24 07:02 [#00712677]
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Yeah exactly! Good point dude.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-05-24 07:07 [#00712679]
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'Know your dopefiend. Your life may depend on it! You will not be able to see his eyes because of tea-shades, but his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape-victim. He will stagger and babble when questioned. He will not respect your bath.'
'Know your dopefiend. Your life may depend on it!'
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dan7250
from Osaka (Japan) on 2003-05-24 07:09 [#00712680]
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a friend of mine started going bald cos he smoked to much pot
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-24 09:43 [#00712859]
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thats a load of bull
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-24 09:46 [#00712864]
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Can Pot Lead To Insanity?
hopefully not
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-05-24 09:59 [#00712881]
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i think it can in people who have a defective gene. but not in norrmal people
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-24 10:00 [#00712882]
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im more worried about my nads :/
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-24 10:18 [#00712904]
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will smoking pot cause you to go permanently insane?
short answer, no with a but....
long answer, yes with an if....
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-24 10:23 [#00712908]
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A much more reliable way to go insane is to avoid food and sleep. I think you can pemanently damage your neurochemistry, or at least trigger an underlying problem, by doing this. I've watched it happen several times. Of course not eating or sleeping could be a symptom more than a cause... IANAMD
In any case you should avoid marijuana. It makes you chronically stupid and lazy.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-24 10:26 [#00712910]
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In any case you should avoid TV. It makes you chronically stupid and lazy.
In any case you should avoid donuts. It makes you chronically stupid and lazy.
In any case you should avoid being alive. It makes you chronically stupid and lazy.
my work here is done
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-24 10:26 [#00712911]
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it's important to recognize that many sources of information about the effects of cannabis on humans are fueled by unacknowledged political motivations. a good reference for information is "marijuana myths marijuana facts" by lynn zimmer, phd and john morgan, md. it is concerned with scientific evidence and dispenses with the urban myths and rumor mongering.
is cannabis bad for you? the answer is, "who are you?"
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-24 10:36 [#00712919]
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is your brain on drugs.
When you "come down" from your "reefer buzz", you may notice that television and donuts actually do make you chronically stupid and lazy, whereas dead people are much less active and intelligent than the living.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-24 10:36 [#00712920]
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My god this avatar is making me nasty
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-24 10:38 [#00712922]
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my point is marijuana doesn't make you stupid and lazy. YOU make yourself stupid and lazy.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-05-24 10:39 [#00712923]
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Pot is Illegal !! Do not smoke it ! Take DXM instead suckka !
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-24 10:41 [#00712924]
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The addict will blame everything and anything but the substance that enslaves him.
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diablo
on 2003-05-24 10:43 [#00712926]
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When I first met you, didn't realize I can't forget you, for your surprise you introduced me, to my mind And left me wanting, you and your kind
I love you, Oh you know it
My life was empty, forever on a down Until you took me, showed me around My life is free now, my life is clear I love you sweet leaf, though you can't hear
Come on now, try it out
Straight people don't know, what you're about They put you down and shut you out you gave to me a new belief and soon the world will love you sweet leaf
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-24 10:45 [#00712929]
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i've done no drugs my whole life, and quite frankly i'm proud of it. nothing's gonna change me now. ;)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-24 10:50 [#00712937]
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The addict will blame everything and anything but the substance that enslaves him.
That is also not true. Thats like killing someone and you blame the gun for it. The point is, the murderer is at fault, not the gun he used.
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diablo
on 2003-05-24 10:52 [#00712940]
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*whispers* try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it try it... hehehe! ;)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-24 10:53 [#00712941]
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Don't be facile. I'm not on a crusade against a plant species here.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-24 10:59 [#00712950]
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