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offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 07:16 [#00706459]
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...to brush his teeth?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 07:17 [#00706463]
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Only joking...I want to know what the drum is he uses in a
lot of his tracks..The kind of light snare, I can't figure
out how to do it. I know Pennyworth knows but doe anyone
else?


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 07:58 [#00706517]
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sounds to me like an 808 style kit..atleast for drukqs, but
i also heard he uses some 70's syn drums


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-05-20 08:00 [#00706518]
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which snare sound - ie. which track??

i know he uses the 808 and 909 a bit, and the 606, and 707?
or is it 727 ??? maybe you can get it with playing around
with properties of the 808 snare with some sampler eg.
Halion???

but yeah, i'd be keen to know as well ... arsefox?


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-05-20 08:01 [#00706519]
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the 606 snare is quite light .. but i don't really know what
you mean by "light" .. mmm..

i prefer snappy and crisp snare's


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:02 [#00706520]
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have you guys noticed the cheezy background drum texture in
Tapr? sounds like reallly low quality kit. probably the only
recognizable instrument in that track, gotta love it


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:02 [#00706521]
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I tried the 808 and 707...I just can't get that Aphex sound,
if you know what I mean. It is more out of interest than
necessity. :)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:04 [#00706523]
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That's what I mean...on his drill tracks he uses a really
crisp snare but I just can't get any snare to sound like it.


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:05 [#00706524]
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perhaps he adds a light crunchy distortion to the snare..
mmm crunchy, now im hungry


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:07 [#00706526]
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i've read that he writes his own programs to make sounds.
his music is so customized that it's hard to get the smae
sounds.


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:09 [#00706528]
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that indeed.. but if he used them for drukQs.. he used them
very suddlely (is that a word) cause of a lot of those
breakbeats just sound like really high-quality highly
mastered basic drum kits.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:09 [#00706529]
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I don't believe all that stuff for one second. People make
a lot of stuff up about him just because he very rarely
speaks to the press...plus arsefox can do it D


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:10 [#00706532]
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why is that so unbelievable?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:16 [#00706545]
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Pointless more than unbelievable...I mean is you use
programming packages for sound manipulation such as MAX then
OK but why would anyone want to go making their own sounds
from scratch when there are already so many products that
let you do it?


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:18 [#00706552]
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well to give the guy credit.. maybe its more personal to
him.. ive heard that his most personal and favorite tracks
he will never release to the public


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:20 [#00706554]
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if you wanted to make a cake would you:

a) buy some betty crocker and be done with it
or
b) make it from scratch and enjoy it more afterwards

?


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:21 [#00706555]
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c) are you such a bad cook you can't do either

theres my answer


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:22 [#00706556]
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but that isn't a good analogy...because you are talking
about a final product there...it would be more a case of
would you buy the ingredients for the cake or make the
flour, yeast etc. yourself.


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:22 [#00706557]
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well then you can have some of mine when it's finished.
*that's what richard says to his listeners


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:23 [#00706560]
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but to make some completely original, i think, would give so
much more personal enjoyment to the music.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:25 [#00706561]
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But he says himself in interviews that he uses pro tools and
recycle...even if he does i just want to know the source of
the drum that him and arsefox use :D


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:25 [#00706562]
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egg-sact-lee


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:26 [#00706563]
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i'm not sure exactly what he uses, i'm just saying that
writing your own programs to make music wouldn't be absurd
and pointless.


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:27 [#00706566]
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im 99% certain he writes his own programs.. but what do u
have to say about the rumors claiming he created his
outboard instruments from scratch out of different
electronic parts of tv's stereos, etc....???


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-20 08:28 [#00706567]
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he uses a quill pen -- I know that for a fact


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:29 [#00706569]
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that would be crazy. he is a musical genious, and i think
it could be possible. i have tons of respect for afx.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:30 [#00706572]
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He said he messed about yer ago with that sort of stuff and
doesn't any more, because he can make all the sounds he
wants on computer. I have heard he is writing a music
generation package that produces random tunes, but never
that he actually writes stuff to make his own sounds.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-20 08:31 [#00706573]
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I think he is an electronics student - hence making his own
analogue synths.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:31 [#00706574]
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You're confusing him with the original Mozart
mate...

I fnd it hard to believe things like that he built his own
sampler...

a) how could you- chips are incredibly expensive to make in
small quantities and if it was tape based you can already
get ones like that

b) Why would you? It's hard enough saying with certainty
which synth someone used, let alone a sampler... in any
event, s/w samplers have much nicer UIs these days than
hardware based ones- especially for making whole tracks
rather than just playing samples live/when DJing.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-20 08:32 [#00706576]
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NO NO NO NO - he is not the kin of mozart! he is the kin of
beethoven!!!!!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:33 [#00706577]
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marlowes right...he went to college to study electronics but
dropped out to make music...and he did used to take old
electronic equipment apart to make them make wierd sounds,
he did the same with old synths and made them into hybrids.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:33 [#00706578]
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by that second point I meant "samplers of a high enough
quality don't sound different, the only reason you'd make a
custom one would be for the user interface, which would be
redundant as it's easier in software"


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:34 [#00706580]
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Also who said anything about sampler :D


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:34 [#00706581]
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quill pen?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:34 [#00706583]
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I don't debate that he might of modded synths, but I
read an interview saying he made his own sampler- I find
that ahrd to believe and that makes me doubt the other
claims...


 

offline S M Pennyworth from East Timor on 2003-05-20 08:34 [#00706584]
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what kind of snare exactly? =)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-20 08:35 [#00706586]
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yes - are you familiar with this old-fashioned writing
instrument?


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:36 [#00706588]
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i knew it.. hes the next noah's arc, savin those damn
animals


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:36 [#00706589]
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don't you think that maybe after almost 20 years of making
music he would get tired of using the same equipment? he
may make his own equipment for, like you said, the user
interface. plus, he may want to understand every little
thing about music and how its created.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:36 [#00706590]
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Just tell me what you use to mke music and i will be a very
happy chappy :D


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:37 [#00706592]
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I agree with Ceri...the level of sound manipulation with
software packages now is boundless. There is absolutely
nothing that could be gained from making your own stuff.


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:39 [#00706600]
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absolutly nothing? you make writing music sound like its a
job. if you enjoy something alot, then you will want to
know everything about it and be a master of it. well, maybe
not everyone is like that. i get that way sometimes.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:42 [#00706602]
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I agree that he might do it for the hell of it (I use custom
graphics stuff that could, I suppose, be done in photoshop
with custom filters with little discernable difference...),
but the practicality of making a sampler is still the issue-
I'm not an expert on electronics by any means, but I can
appreciate the complexity (not to mention expense!) of
making a sampler from scratch. Perhaps he modded one to make
the UI a bit more friendly, but I'll wager the photograph of
that sampler in the NME article is just a publicity mock
up...


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:42 [#00706604]
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we are not referring to making music though we are talking
about making sounds to make music with.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-20 08:43 [#00706606]
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I know, at one stage I was really into what was going on in
computers in minute detail (threads in OSes, the way chips
worked on an electronic level), I thought it'd be cool to
one day make/design a computer from scratchs o you would
understand it at every level...


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 08:45 [#00706611]
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i guess maybe i don't understand the difficulty involved. i
just think it'd be cool to make all your equipment from
scratch. i don't think it'd be good for you primary
equipment, but to just make it would be cool.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-05-20 08:47 [#00706614]
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ceri -- in one of the better articles he sais he made a
sampler, but all it ever did was make some weird squelchy
sound and then died .. (or something to that effect), so
he didn't really blow up the rumour ... ??


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 08:56 [#00706638]
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It is really very very very simple as you would expect from
a system of 0 and 1.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-20 09:00 [#00706641]
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btw my degree is in software engineering and we did the
whole processor design etc. as part of the course...I was
amazed at how stupidly simple a thing that is perceived as a
complex system really is.


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-20 09:01 [#00706643]
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i can't decide whether to go into software engineering or
networking? any opinions?


 


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