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offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-18 18:55 [#00704475]
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Or at least the closest thing to magic.

Discuss.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-18 18:57 [#00704476]
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more like the opposite i would say..


 

offline cx from Norway on 2003-05-18 18:58 [#00704477]
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no, science is a way to explain magic.
a wheel spinning isn't physics, you use physics to explain
it spinning.
or something.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-18 19:20 [#00704485]
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Could we consider music to be magic?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-18 19:22 [#00704486]
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Scientists wear white lab coats. Magicians wear tuxedos and
capes.

Any questions?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-05-18 19:23 [#00704487]
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white hat


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-18 19:39 [#00704489]
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david copperfield once claimed he made the statue of liberty
disappear. thats bollocks, its still there.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-18 19:47 [#00704490]
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Duh, he put it back.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-18 20:09 [#00704497]
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Magic is what we don't understand. Since different brains
(people) have differing amounts of understanding of
different things, magic is subjective. Or something. Who
cares.


 

offline TokyoJo from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-05-18 20:11 [#00704498]
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There is a very long running debate on this between two well
known Philosophers - Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn. If you are
interested in the question of whether magic is just unknown
science, read anything by Popper or "The Structure of
Scientific Revolutions" by Kuhn..

They dont get into David Copperfield and rabbits and stuff
too much though, which I always thought was a pity...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-18 20:27 [#00704505]
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the supernatural is closer to science in my opinion...


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-18 20:32 [#00704511]
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Closer than what?


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-18 20:34 [#00704515]
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blah, I totally fooled that up... I meant to say the
supernatural is closer to magic... meaning that science is
based on facts, the supernatural is based on faith and
belief...


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2003-05-18 20:41 [#00704520]
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Define your terms.

Science - Method of Inquiry (Not a Body of Knowledge)

Magic (Magick) - ???


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-18 20:46 [#00704524]
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jesus was a great majician. loaves fishes etc. wouldnt
really impress anyone nowadays would it?


 

offline Plan B on 2003-05-18 21:01 [#00704533]
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science is like, from the future and the magic is from the
past.
magic and science don't work together...

that's why we have plan B!


 

offline TokyoJo from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-05-18 21:01 [#00704534]
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Nonsense - not even David Copperfield has tried to feed
5,000..

Jesus was badass - yeah!


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-05-18 23:17 [#00704695]
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hehe, everyone should read 'the science of discworld', an
additional thingy to the books of terry prachett by him and
some physics.. lots of our science and an explanation why
science is magic


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-05-18 23:21 [#00704699]
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thor was badass. theres a god who fights for what he
believes in.


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-05-19 14:05 [#00705621]
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magic is a delusion.
science is our mother.
life is not an illusion.
death and we are smothered.


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-05-19 14:07 [#00705626]
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science is magic in itself.
life is hope and fear...
legend is a myth and a dream upon which we feed ourselves
until death....



 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-05-19 14:10 [#00705629]
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these things are not meant to be explained,.....

for, we are the reason


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-05-19 14:21 [#00705651]
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I'm more of a Loki fan myself actually.


 

offline uzim on 2003-05-19 14:25 [#00705655]
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science = magic ?

i don't know but that sounds like a sad idea to me!! =(
sad for magic.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-19 18:59 [#00705997]
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Science is the closest thing we have to the mythological
magic. Magic = creating fireballs and summoning dragons.

Science = Flame throwers and using DNA to ressurect
dinosaurs.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 19:16 [#00706002]
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Arthur C Clarke once came up with the truism that "Any
suffiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
from magic"...

Sums it's up real well, I think....


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-19 19:33 [#00706019]
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Arthur C Clarke is a hero


 

offline algonaut from Jacksonville (United States) on 2003-05-19 19:41 [#00706032]
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its the difference between natural phenamena and
supernatural phenomena . Science proves that magic is
Relativity anyways....


Our parallel world (enuith) uses a forcefeild of magic to
ward off those using Black Electricity. Sources say
Neanderthals had the highest level of magic...
However, Walt Disney advocated white magic.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-19 19:59 [#00706050]
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you're correct on every level!!


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-19 20:21 [#00706072]
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i'm a scientist
i don't wear a lab coat unless the health and safety people
are touring our lab.

i can purify, replicate, amplify, clone, translate,
visualize, sequence, genotype, and mutate DNA. its all
actually pretty easy. it just seems like magic to those who
don't understand it.
so i think science doesn't equal magic. misunderstood
science just seems like magic.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-19 20:50 [#00706110]
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More scientists should wear tuxedos and have beautiful
assistants.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-19 21:00 [#00706128]
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I'm gonna get that tattooed on my leg.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-20 05:14 [#00706378]
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magick = the aim of religion, and the method of science.

megatherion


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-20 13:17 [#00706899]
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magick is an aspect of reality. materialism is the denail
of this aspect of reality. science if concern to both.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-20 13:18 [#00706901]
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"...denial of this aspect of reality. science is of
concern..."


 


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