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offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 20:55 [#00698669]
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anyone up for interpreting some of vespertine's lyrics?

for starters, what the hell is "an echo, a stain" about?!
sounds like a song about abuse (child? spouse?), which seems
pretty incharacteristic for her. it's probably the darkest
damn bjork song i've ever heard... there's something wrong
about me being able to throw it in a mix with squarepusher's
"mutilation colony."

anyone have any questions about some of her earlier songs? i
could probably handle those, been listening to her since
like '95..


 

offline Ctrl Alt Del from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-05-14 20:57 [#00698671]
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first off, what the hell kinda of music is bjork, anyway?
electronic? rock-electronic? satanic death metal?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 20:58 [#00698674]
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Bionic ravecore.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-05-14 20:59 [#00698675]
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have you been living in a box all your life?


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-05-14 20:59 [#00698676]
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vespertine is IDM


 

offline Ctrl Alt Del from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:00 [#00698677]
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well i saw a poster of her in a record shop once and thought
she looked shit so i never went near any of her stuff.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:00 [#00698678]
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Bionic ravecore!??! Thats the style i've been searching for
my whole life!


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:01 [#00698681]
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I think alot of the bjork lyrics are written by 'Sjon' which
means 'vision' in Icelandic, try translating something how
you would say it into say....african, then translate it
back. That's a trick they use.


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-14 21:01 [#00698682]
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What is the meaning of the lines
'I thought I could organize freedom, how Scandinavian of
me.'

I could never catch that reference.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:04 [#00698684]
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'talk strange like bjork' is a wu tang lyric to?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:04 [#00698685]
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funny, that line was explained to me by someone on here a
year ago.. i found it interesting cos i'm scandinavian in
ancestry. i'll see if i can find the thread and paste it cos
i'll mess it up otherwise.

Sjon is an icelandic poet i thought, Jivver? co-wrote
bachelorette, etc.?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:06 [#00698686]
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yes! shit, i thought it'd be HOURS before someone (like
jupitah) picked up on that! it's from rza's verse on
"reunited". what i wouldn't give to hear bjork's unreleased
songs w/ the wu!


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:06 [#00698688]
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Scandanavians see them selves as being unhibited as in they
have communal changing rooms, nudity is 'normal' etc but
they are quite mililtant with other things that others take
for granted...I think.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:09 [#00698691]
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how scandinavian of me! (explained)

what's next? *racks brain*


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:09 [#00698692]
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musically but lyrics are sjon i think


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-14 21:11 [#00698693]
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she has the cutest voice i've ever heard :)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:12 [#00698694]
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is selmasongs fair game for discussing or did lars von trier
write the lyrics? i could never figure it out, the liner
notes are confusing. to me it seems like bjork wrote or
co-wrote the music and lars wrote most of the lyrics? or
maybe dictated what they'd be about? cos there are some
strange lines on that album too.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-05-14 21:13 [#00698695]
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she worked on the lyrics, probably based on trier's
direction


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:14 [#00698696]
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you sussed it out, didn't you! aaaaahahaha. i'm skipping
through tracks, it's like she's challenging me to figure
things out.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:15 [#00698697]
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Most of the lyrics are by Sjon and Lars, I haven't read the
liner notes.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:16 [#00698698]
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hey you haven't heard MINE!!!!

=b


 

offline flim nanou from out of the frying pan (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:20 [#00698700]
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vespertine is so luscious and sad. or maybe I am just sad?
regardless it is luscious. the lyrics remind me that the
best poets learn english as a second language, yeah?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:20 [#00698701]
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Isn't it your birthday soon...? I bought a box of flakes
the other day, there's 28 I think!!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:21 [#00698702]
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does the last track on vespertine remind anyone else of
ernest hemingway?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:22 [#00698704]
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you better ship that fast dude, it's in a few days ;)


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:22 [#00698705]
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Lots of the lyrics a re based on an english lady poet
called.........I can't remember! I'll tell you tomorrow.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:24 [#00698706]
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AHAHHAHA......MAYbeeeeeeeeee =b

hummmm i can think of lots of places for those loverly
flakes.....but several on my hips should do nicely!!!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:25 [#00698707]
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"i'm a fountain of blood, in the shape of a girl" -- never
got that one. i guess it's kind of literal though, girls for
all their niceties are made up of blood, guts, fat, the five
humours, etc.?


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-14 21:25 [#00698708]
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Hey, thats a stroke of comedic brilliance. I see that line
as being central to the whole song now...makes sense
considering how she screams out that line, as if her life
depended on it. Brilliant lyric.

Thanks for searching that out for me, titsworth.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:26 [#00698709]
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i'd be interested in the name of that poet as WELL!!!


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-14 21:28 [#00698710]
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I took that line to represent that she was turning herself
inside out, raw and bleeding, as a form of revenge. Kind of
like Sylvia Plath's 'Lady Lazarus'. The theme figures in
Pluto too.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:28 [#00698711]
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also, what is she saying in icelandic at the end of
"bachelorette"?


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-14 21:29 [#00698712]
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I am guessing that part has been translated in many lyrics.
Something about life-string-pearls and tears. Lemme see if I
can look that up for you.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:30 [#00698713]
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That lyric is open to interpretation, it's a play on
fertilization and the excess of a fountain. Try and finf
Sjon's books, he's written two I think, he's the lyrical
genious.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:30 [#00698714]
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yea i can see that! especially with other metaphors in the
song (eg: the tree lyrics)

"all neon like" is another fucked up one... i'll heal you...
with a razor blade?! i used to sing that one just to make
myself laugh, it's so absurd.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-05-14 21:30 [#00698717]
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i'll check into that


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:31 [#00698718]
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i take it to be literal... we are fountains of blood. our
physiology is incerible, beautiful or horrible depending on
your point of view, but absolutely incredible.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:32 [#00698719]
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never thought vespertine to be sad, just the opposite.
first time i heard it i had a renewed sense of hope...
beauty will save the world.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:32 [#00698720]
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"nourish your turtle hearts".. what's the significance of
turtle here? slow? i think homogenic has some of the most
abstract lyrics since a lot of the songs are so spacy


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:34 [#00698722]
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it's stated differently in various places, but sun in my
mouth is either entirely of a poem by e.e. Cummings, or it
incorporates a poem of his. bjork said that there are
certain poets she reads over and over again, Cummungs being
one of them.

also, harm of will was written by harmony korine. i'm sure
many of you know this already though.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:34 [#00698723]
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vespertine is kinda bittersweet for me.. it's not a light
album by any means (except for a couple tracks) and so
restrained.. there's a kind of melancholy to it that's hard
to put my finger on.. but it's not as overtly dark as a lot
of homogenic and parts of post


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-05-14 21:34 [#00698724]
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it's not icelandic. I don't know what the hell she's saying


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-14 21:34 [#00698725]
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here
life is a necklace of fears (my love)
your uncried tears on a string
our love will untie them - come here (my love)
loving me is the easiest thing

I am guessing that since she does not sing these lines in
English, this is what she is singing in Icelandic.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:35 [#00698726]
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from that same song........i just LOVE the lyric

'love is a two way dream'

man she hit the NAIL on ze HEAD on that one!


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:36 [#00698727]
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i don't try to decipher lyrics like that on an analytical
level because who knows what aspect of the turtle bjork or
lars refers to. since she is talking about the heart i just
feel it... there is a certain feeling level of response i
get when i hear it that doesn't really translate to anything
specific, but the feeling provides a complete meaning to me.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:36 [#00698728]
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AB you need to do some INvestigating for us......you're our
INside connection cos you know that lovely language!!!



 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:36 [#00698729]
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What does 'cloppi' mean alberto?


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-14 21:38 [#00698730]
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:D


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-14 21:38 [#00698731]
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What does...speak it aloud as my spelling will be
terrible...'qvet ae hoppandi' and 'hellvidur koool'
mean????? I know but it's fun


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-14 21:39 [#00698732]
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Man, believe it or not...that was the line that just slapped
me into reality....I just adore that line. That and the
imagery in
'I'm a path of cinders, burning under your feet. You're the
one who walks me, I'm your one way street.'

Very few songs can convey the hardships and beauty of love
simultaneously like this one can.


 


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