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Jedi Chris
on 2003-05-09 12:27 [#00691641]
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GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. - The climber who amputated his own arm to free himself from beneath a boulder had no other choice if he wanted to survive, one of his rescuers said Friday.
Aron Ralston, 27, of Aspen would have died had he stayed where he was, in remote Blue John Canyon near Canyonlands National Park in the far southwestern Utah, Emery County sheriff's Sgt. Mitch Vetere told NBC's "Today" show.
Ralston, described by authorities as an avid outdoorsman in exceptional physical condition, was in serious condition late Thursday at a hospital in Grand Junction, Colo.
Vetere said two other rescuers who returned to the canyon in hopes of retrieving the limb discovered that the boulder weighed 1,000 pounds, not the 200 that they first believed. They were unable to retrieve the arm.
Using a pocketknife, Ralston cut off his right arm below the elbow and applied a tourniquet and administered first aid. He then rigged anchors, fixed a rope and rappelled 60 feet to the canyon floor.
Could you do this?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 12:29 [#00691643]
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Yes, except I would amputate my whole arm because I am a hard scouser init.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-05-09 12:30 [#00691644]
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impressive. most impressive...
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-05-09 12:30 [#00691645]
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...but he is not a jedi, yet.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-05-09 12:31 [#00691647]
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theres 14 tedons in your arm as well as 2 good size bones that must have been a fuckin good knife
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 12:31 [#00691648]
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Imagine if he trapped himself in his fly after taking a piss...he should have that pen knife taken off him.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-05-09 12:31 [#00691649]
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Can you imagine the pain!??!?
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-09 12:33 [#00691655]
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if it was a sharp pocket knife...thats easy :)
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-05-09 12:34 [#00691657]
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i can understand how he didnt die through loss of blood its not a quick job hackin your own arm off
(although i havnt tried)
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-05-09 12:35 [#00691662]
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sorry should cant understand
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-09 15:35 [#00691968]
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oh god, this guy must be so hardcore! i'd cry myself to death.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-09 15:39 [#00691975]
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well, he must've been in a hell of a lot of pain already because, quite clearly, his arm must've already been squished..
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-05-09 15:40 [#00691978]
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I'll take death please!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 15:42 [#00691984]
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I don't think I would be able to do that... but I guess most people would say that... you never know till you're in a situation like that...
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-09 15:44 [#00691988]
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there is a possibility that he couldnt feel his arm?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-09 15:44 [#00691989]
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yeah, that's got to be like existing in an entirely different dimension.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-09 15:46 [#00691994]
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sounds probable.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:06 [#00692236]
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he broke the bones, so he didn't have to try to cut through them...
read the whole article, it explains his story in great detail.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-09 18:09 [#00692239]
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yeah, just saw him on tv.
he explained quite calmly and cooly how he turned and shifted his arm until the bones gave way at his wrist.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-09 18:11 [#00692241]
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wow, that sounds pretty disgusting...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-05-09 18:12 [#00692242]
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Ha, the joys of climbing...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:15 [#00692245]
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well, if i remember correctly, he also said that he had gotten into deep meditation and prayer before doing it, too. stories like this deeply move me.
i can't even imagine being in a situation like that.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:17 [#00692246]
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It doesn't even sound as bad as you are all making it sound.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:20 [#00692248]
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whatever.
i say red, you say blue.
sure, sounds like fun... matter of fact, why don't we ALL do it?????
cutting tendons like i have with chicken, only this time... I FEEL IT!!!!!
sure, no big deal at all.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-09 18:21 [#00692249]
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theyll probably make it into a film after they finish "9/11 - the truth"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-09 18:22 [#00692251]
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how many sequals?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:23 [#00692252]
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man, NOTHING impresses some people.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-09 18:23 [#00692254]
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thats sequels
(im not feeling so good)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:23 [#00692255]
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No, it's not fun...but it isn't particularly special either. When it is a matter of survival you are capable of doing almost anything. There are stories of people who have knawed their own limbs off, never mind a pen knife.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:24 [#00692256]
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then again, i guess freddy krueger has seen it all.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-09 18:24 [#00692257]
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He says he felt a mysterious surge of energy, on a day that turned out to be ''National Day of Prayer'' or something. Hallelujah!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:25 [#00692260]
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so the level of gore involved is key???
what about just losing the use of your right arm? i think to musicians this would be a big deal... or an artist... anyone who is right handed.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:26 [#00692261]
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ophecks: good for him.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-09 18:26 [#00692263]
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I don't think you're thinking about in that way.. I mean, if you don't do it, you DIE.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:26 [#00692264]
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No, but it was a matter of self preservation, I would have been impressed if he sacrificed his arm to save someone else. But anyone in that situation would do the same.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-09 18:27 [#00692266]
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some places in africa people get choped their limbs off every day (for minor offences)...no one really cares about that...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:29 [#00692269]
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sorry, you guys are right... i'll just be jaded and uncaring like everyone else. yeah, i feel better already.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:32 [#00692276]
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Someone I don't know had to cut their own arm off to survive in a place I know nothing about doing a risky sport of his own choice...
I have the news on and it is showing kids with arms and legs missing...blown off during bombing raids from an unjust war...it is all about priorities, you can't feel sorry for everyone.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-09 18:36 [#00692286]
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I think it's incredible, can't imagine doing that. I'd probably take the knife to my jugular before I took it to my arm.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:37 [#00692288]
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Depends if you had your head trapped instead of your arm.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-09 18:40 [#00692289]
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that's bullshit.
loads of people wouldn't do that, even when its a live or die situation.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:41 [#00692291]
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If they had the means they would try. I know I wouldn't think twice about it if my life was in danger.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-05-09 18:44 [#00692294]
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this happened like a week ago
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-09 18:45 [#00692295]
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This guy was in phenomenal shape and had a lot of savvy... even if I DID have the guts to chop my arm off, I don't know if I COULD actually physically do it with the $5 knife he had.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-09 18:47 [#00692297]
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i bet it would hurt you more if it would take you long to do it...
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:47 [#00692298]
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if you cut the tendons and remove the skin from around the elbow it would be pretty easy to snap it out of place.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-09 18:49 [#00692300]
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are you a butcher or something?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-09 18:49 [#00692301]
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Have been
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-05-09 18:49 [#00692302]
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i think the important part is that somewhere, there's a fucking arm under a boulder
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-05-09 18:53 [#00692307]
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Moral of this story: Take a cell phone with you on hikes into no-man's land...
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