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offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-06 20:12 [#00687224]
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Really, can pure instrumental music ever reach the same
emotional highs as a good lyric sung by a great voice? I've
had the opinion that pure instrumental music is more open to
interpretation, and can be full of emotion and all that...
but I really find there is nothing like a beautiful lyric
with a beautiful melody... I even find sometimes that I get
so touched by a vocal song, but I don't even pay attention
to the lyrics if you know what I mean... like I'll listen to
the song, and sing along, but I won't think about the
lyrics... yet it'll touch me deeply... with some songs I
don't take the lyrics as a whole, but just pay close
attention to individual lines that I find particularly
powerful... I guess it's something to do with a person
singing, and baring their souls that is just innately
emotional...

what's everyones opinions about this?


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-05-06 20:35 [#00687241]
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ive pondered this many a time - and it seems that i feel
that instrumental music is much more personal that lyrics
can be - an instrumental lets you interpret your own
thoughts and feelings into the music - creating your own
song, or lyrics in your head - a collection of your own
ideas and emotions.


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2003-05-06 20:38 [#00687243]
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I think the reason that people enjoy vocal music is because
its so immediate.. . its instantly identifiable (which if
you take all current trends in shit tv you should agree) and
gratifing.. . honestly I think people like indulging
themselves in themselves (even if they cant sing
themselves).. . personally I like vocal music without lyrics
or foreign music where the lyrics just cant be understood
until you go looking for a translation or something.. . when
its like that the voice just becomes a multitimbred
instrument.. . and honestly.. . the types of sounds it can
produce are just amazing. ..


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-06 20:41 [#00687251]
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Personally I enjoy instrumental music more, but there are
some vocal songs that really kick my ass.

Hey does Amon Tobins "verbal" count as an instrumental or a
vocal piece ? ;D


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-06 20:42 [#00687252]
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I have two distinct listening moods, one where I WANT lyrics
and one where I don't. I have no idea what sets each mood
off.

I'm really picky and dumb lyrics or a less than flattering
voice can really ruin it for me... or make it a totally
orgiastic experience.

All my favorite music has vocals though.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-06 20:45 [#00687254]
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less is more


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2003-05-06 20:46 [#00687256]
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i consider the vocals to be no more than another
instrument....example sigur ros...its much more fulfulling
to me that way, IMHO


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-06 20:49 [#00687257]
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well, I enjoy all those types of music that you mentioned
there... pure instrumental, vocal music with no lyrics, and
lyrical music... but I don't know, sometimes I just find it
extremely intimate and touching when a singer bares his/her
soul through music... for instance, Sea Change by Beck is
one of the most beautiful and touching albums I've heard in
sometime... Us by Peter Gabriel is the same... both albums
are about hurt and pain and all that, and the lyrics and
singing is just so amazing... I don't know, I guess it's two
different things really... at least I find that... I find
instrumental music good because it's open to interpretation,
and can be used for feelings from an type of situation...
whereas lyrical songs may be specifically about one thing,
and thus is not going to be as good to me in other
situations... but if I listen to a lyrical song that is
about a situation almost identical to one I'm experiencing,
there is nothing like it... it's almost like the singer is
singing to me then... it just depends for me I guess...


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-05-06 20:52 [#00687261]
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That used to be the argument for synthesized music, range
timbre/tone etc. 'lyrics that can't be understood' is
similar to a noise that is created a new way 'granular',
'additive' synthesis etc...


 

offline Ganymede from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2003-05-06 21:25 [#00687294]
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The vast majority of the music that I listen to is
instrumental. That said, good lyrics or a good voice can't
be topped. It's just there's so many *bad* singers and dumb
lyrics out there.


 

offline Morgoth from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-05-07 00:14 [#00687434]
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I enjoy music with and without vocals. But with vocals you
add a real personal thing to any song that you can't add
otherwise. I really love live recordings with a good singer,
that puts in emotion. I love the poetry that lyrics to a
song can be, I also love the fact that you can write about
anything you want, like personal things, but also political
things (sundag bloody sunday by U2 as an example).


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-07 01:42 [#00687471]
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i take it that people who dont particularily like lyrics,
dont like Bob Dylan or the Beatles then :)

I like instrumental music and vocal music the same, i
think.

for example: All bluesby Miles Davis is really "hair
raising" (as in back of the neck),but so can all vocalmusic


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-05-07 03:04 [#00687526]
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i like music with vocals, eg samples...but as for actual
*singing* i can almost never find any emotion in it, it
always makes me picture the singer, whereas instrumental can
be pure music, i can concentrate on emotions...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-07 04:22 [#00687584]
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Vocal music is betterer as its more bvalue for money;
there's more of it.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-07 04:26 [#00687587]
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in spain we dont understand most of the lirycs in english...
and even so we can be touched by those lirycs while singing
them or listening to them


 


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